Beck Water Posted Thursday at 09:02 PM Posted Thursday at 09:02 PM 8 minutes ago, mannc said: And Irving is now hurt… It's a tough game for tough people. Players get hurt. Travis Henry's been hurt some seasons. Saquon Barkley got hurt. Not sure what's your point? Quote
mannc Posted Thursday at 09:04 PM Posted Thursday at 09:04 PM Just now, Beck Water said: It's a tough game for tough people. Players get hurt. Travis Henry's been hurt some seasons. Saquon Barkley got hurt. Not sure what's your point? That Irving’s high usage may have resulted in him getting hurt, which we don’t want Cook to be… 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Travis Henry's been hurt some seasons. I’m not sure what Travis Henry has to do with this😀 Quote
billsfan89 Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM 6 hours ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Trading Knox does free up 9 mil in cap space, but at this point in the season what would we spend that on? Knox for a late draft pick doesn't make any sense Knox + 3rd-ish for a game wrecker like Hendrickson or Simmons is intriguing. I'm not a capologist but I'm assuming we could make it work I'm not really interested in targeting a WR/CB/S/RB unless we have some serious injuries. Trading for Cooper last year was such a waste of assets I also think fans kind of forget that Knox is one of Josh’s friends on the team and this team is also dropping a lot of 3 TE sets as the new “6th offensive line” wrinkle. Knox isn’t going anywhere this season and if he is willing to rework his deal next year he will probably be back 1 Quote
Dafan Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM Posted Thursday at 09:44 PM 23 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Justin Simmons is the name that stands out to me. Can’t see us adding a RB right now, we still have Gore on the PS who stood out in preseason too if we needed another body. Hendrickson also stands out, but not sure if they can make him work with the cap, but no doubt he could help. Thing with Hendrickson is how much would his cap hit be in reality for the remainder of the season. As a .5 year rental...why not. He would definitely bolster up our d-line heading into the playoffs. If Cincinnati is pretty much out of the playoff race at trade deadline...they'd be stupid not to trade him...even for a 3rd. He's not under contract next year, and I believe he signed the tag with understanding that they won't tag him next year. 2 Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 12:15 AM Posted Friday at 12:15 AM 2 hours ago, Dafan said: Thing with Hendrickson is how much would his cap hit be in reality for the remainder of the season. As a .5 year rental...why not. He would definitely bolster up our d-line heading into the playoffs. If Cincinnati is pretty much out of the playoff race at trade deadline...they'd be stupid not to trade him...even for a 3rd. He's not under contract next year, and I believe he signed the tag with understanding that they won't tag him next year. From everything I’ve seen there is nothing formal regarding a tag next offseason. I expect Hendrickson to get franchise tagged and traded by Cincy in March or April. As for a trade, I think Cincy will be looking for compensation in the same range as what they could get then. The Bills would have to send Knox and another player to Cincy or elsewhere to free up enough space, but it’s doable. The trade price would hurt and I don’t think we entertain this if Bosa stays healthy, but if we were in need at DE then I’d be down to make the move. Quote
RyanC883 Posted Friday at 02:38 AM Author Posted Friday at 02:38 AM On 10/1/2025 at 2:34 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Justin Simmons is the name that stands out to me. Can’t see us adding a RB right now, we still have Gore on the PS who stood out in preseason too if we needed another body. Hendrickson also stands out, but not sure if they can make him work with the cap, but no doubt he could help. would love to know what the prorated part of Hendrickson’s deal is. The article just left that out when discussing him. 13 hours ago, TFBillsfan said: With how we draft in the 2nd round, I’d easily give up a 2nd knowing we’d have an absolute beast on the DL to pair up w Oliver, Bosa, Groot. Add in Hoecht along w Sanders and Walker developing. I’d trade a 2nd for him. 9 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: Hendrickson just signed a deal, was it a pay bump just for this season? Maybe we can interest them in some kind of combo of: draft pick(s?), Trubisky, Epenesa, Alec Anderson. Just riffing names/positions i think they could possibly have an interest in? Obv some of those names are more valuable than others, so the draft pick from us would be of a sliding value, depending. In another spot in the article they mention Hendrickson being on a 1 year deal so it looks like he can be traded for a cap hit of the prorated amount left this year (but article leaves that amount out). I got the names for other positions (Simmons for example) from other players being traded in this article Quote
NewEra Posted Friday at 03:24 AM Posted Friday at 03:24 AM On 10/1/2025 at 4:34 PM, Alphadawg7 said: Justin Simmons is the name that stands out to me. Can’t see us adding a RB right now, we still have Gore on the PS who stood out in preseason too if we needed another body. Hendrickson also stands out, but not sure if they can make him work with the cap, but no doubt he could help. Both Hendrickson and the Simmons’. Justin and Jeffrey. If we’re going to add a safety, let’s do it soon so they can get their head in the playbook and learn the system 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Friday at 07:11 AM Posted Friday at 07:11 AM (edited) 18 hours ago, Beck Water said: The attempts per game Cook is getting (18-ish) are on par with other top running backs in the league (Henry, Barkley, Williams, Jonathan, Gibbs) Yup. But he's smaller than those guys. 11 hours ago, Beck Water said: It's a tough game for tough people. Players get hurt. Travis Henry's been hurt some seasons. Saquon Barkley got hurt. Not sure what's your point? Players get hurt. Littler RBs used more tend to get hurt at higher rates and wear down faster. Travis Henry? There's a blast from the past. You mean Derrick, right? Derrick has been extremely healthy over his long career, missing significant time in one year of his career entering his tenth year. Derrick Henry missed almost no time his first five years. Bucky Irving has not been so lucky, and his size likely is part of the reason for that. 12 hours ago, Beck Water said: Including pass receptions, Jacobs averaging 22.5 touches per game. Jonathan Taylor, same. Bucky Irving, same. Saquon Barkley, 23. Christian McCaffrey, 25. You wanna do touches from scrimmage, gotta do them all. Still on par. Irving is 5'10, 195. I grant the other guys are stockier and more muscular. Irving had 207 carries last year, exactly the same amount Cook had. And only about forty more snaps than Cook had as well. I'm hoping they can ramp their use of Cook back down more towards what it was last year. But I do agree that Davis hasn't looked as good so far this year. They may feel forced to use Cook a lot based on the state of the RB room rather than what they would like if things looked better there. Edited Friday at 08:09 AM by Thurman#1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Friday at 07:23 AM Posted Friday at 07:23 AM 14 hours ago, BarleyNY said: If traded we’d still be in the hook for the cap associated with the cash pais to Knox on his $9.5M salary. That’s $559k per game prior to the trade. $2.235M for the 4 games he’s played. If we traded him today we’d clear $7.26M. It’s worth noting that the Bills are likely considering trading him. I base that on them not restructuring his contract. They’ll almost certainly need to do it at some point to free up some space - and he’s got the only contract left they could do it with. They’re keeping their options open. I'd argue it's relatively unlikely they are considering trading for him. I base that on the fact that they still have a ton of time left to re-structure. They are indeed keeping their options open there. IMO they're loving having three guys who can really play at TE. Gives them chess pieces, and allows them to run three TE formations, which they've already done quite a bit, with great success so far. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted Friday at 07:52 AM Posted Friday at 07:52 AM (edited) 15 hours ago, Westside said: I’m sorry you aren’t able to understand common sense. Maybe in the future. Good riddance to you. I do understand common sense. And trolling. Good riddance indeed. Edited Friday at 07:58 AM by Thurman#1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted Friday at 09:30 AM Posted Friday at 09:30 AM I say let’s wait a couple more weeks. Milano & Oliver are back practicing, Ogunjobi & Hoeght will be available soon and Hairston is healing. These 5 are likely going to change the team dynamics significantly. Quote
BarleyNY Posted Friday at 11:10 AM Posted Friday at 11:10 AM 3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: I'd argue it's relatively unlikely they are considering trading for him. I base that on the fact that they still have a ton of time left to re-structure. They are indeed keeping their options open there. IMO they're loving having three guys who can really play at TE. Gives them chess pieces, and allows them to run three TE formations, which they've already done quite a bit, with great success so far. I think we are on the same page. If the situation arises where they need to add at a position, then Knox is the lever they have to pull to create space by trading him away. They could also restructure his contract, but that would not create as much space. Quote
ganesh Posted Friday at 12:22 PM Posted Friday at 12:22 PM Trading will not cost us cap money as the other team picks up his contract. However, what happens is that the acquiring team forces the giving team to pay most of the salary for the year so that they pay less cash. Quote
dollars 2 donuts Posted Friday at 01:11 PM Posted Friday at 01:11 PM On 10/1/2025 at 6:08 PM, Einstein said: Knox is more valuable to us this year than a 5th. Our 13 is probably my favorite thing we do this year on offense. Quote
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