WGR Discussing McD's job security

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Fire McDermott!!!

[GoBills808]

11 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Also worth mentioning that that KC offense was seen as the weakest of the Mahomes era and scored just 24.1 PPG in the regular season, and looked somewhere between lackluster and putrid in their other two postseason games. Against us they instead spent the entire 1st half marching down the field at will except one time when Mahomes handed us the ball for free. So yeah it's hard to ignore all of that because of one great individual play made by Jordan Phillips on their final series.

 

My standard for this season, for the massive disparity between defensive vs offensive investments to be worth it, is for the Bills defense to hold KC to less than 24 points in our inevitable playoff matchup. Other defenses have managed that feat and without the benefit of having an all-world QB on the other side sustaining drives through sheer force of will. So if all of those investments combined with a defensive head coach isn't enough for us to perform to that bare minimum standard, then really what is the point of keeping this regime around?

i would say that's a very generous standard, considering over the last 3 years the Chiefs have averaged 25ppg in the playoffs vs non-Sean McDermott defenses

 

although maybe not quite as generous a standard as @GunnerBill's 'just don't lost TWO un-loseable games'😂😂

 

i mean consider the ridiculousness of the fact that the Dolphins of all teams, in their lone playoff game vs Mahomes and the Chiefs, managed to hold them to fewer points than we ever have before

[JerseyBills]

I've always defended McD, the culture change was/is remarkable but if he doesn't at least win the AFC this year, that seat should get very hot. 

I don't want to sit here in 10 years and ask what if, you have the best QB in the world 

 

[Rousseauisnoschmo]

14 minutes ago, Nostradumbass said:

All we did was lose before he got here all we’ve done is win since

 

Firing him would be a tragic mistake without a top, top coach available to take over (Mike Tomlin)

You're name isn't helping your argument.

[JerseyBills]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i would say that's a very generous standard, considering over the last 3 years the Chiefs have averaged 25ppg in the playoffs vs non-Sean McDermott defenses

 

although maybe not quite as generous a standard as @GunnerBill's 'just don't lost TWO un-loseable games'😂😂

 

i mean consider the ridiculousness of the fact that the Dolphins of all teams, in their lone playoff game vs Mahomes and the Chiefs, managed to hold them to fewer points than we ever have before

That's incredible,  Reid just dominates our scheme

[RoscoeParrish]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i would say that's a very generous standard, considering over the last 3 years the Chiefs have averaged 25ppg in the playoffs vs non-Sean McDermott defenses

 

although maybe not quite as generous a standard as @GunnerBill's 'just don't lost TWO un-loseable games'😂😂

 

i mean consider the ridiculousness of the fact that the Dolphins of all teams, in their lone playoff game vs Mahomes and the Chiefs, managed to hold them to fewer points than we ever have before

There’s something poetic about arguing about how the “margins are super thin” and great teams/eras finish without rings all the time but every coach gets a mulligan when they completely botch a playoff victory.

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Do you think Allen wouldn't have gotten to an AFC championship game by now or made multiple playoff appearances by now? 

 

Ask Joe Burrow how automatic those are.

[RoscoeParrish]

1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Ask Joe Burrow how automatic those are.

Joe Burrow would’ve made the playoffs if he was in the AFCE last year, with a record that was good enough for third in the AFCN.

 

Do you think the Bills would’ve won the AFCN every year from 2020 to now?

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

There’s something poetic about arguing about how the “margins are super thin” and great teams/eras finish without rings all the time but every coach gets a mulligan when they completely botch a playoff victory.

 

Are you better at your job than you were 5 years ago? 

 

If you’re not working, would you expect that you would have been better after 5 years? Is that fair to assume? 

 

Josh is better at his job than he was a few years ago, and so are a lot of the players. The same can apply to coaches. 

 

 

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Edited August 8 by Augie

[RoscoeParrish]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Are you better at your job than you were 5 years ago? 

 

If you’re not working, would you expect that you would have been better after 5 years? Is that fair to assume? 

 

Josh is better at his job than he was a few years ago, and so are a lot of the players. The same can apply to coaches. 

 

 

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Do you think Sean McDermott is better coaching against Andy Reid in the playoffs than he was in 2021?

Edited August 8 by RoscoeParrish

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

 

Do you think any team with our current QB attached to it is going to fade to mediocrity?

 

 

Yes. Ask Joe Burrow how automatic it is to make the playoffs and win divisions. The notion that any old team with a bunch of JAGs led by Josh Allen would be this successful is laughable.

 

The Bills are an elite team. Elite players, coaching and front office. If you're determined to pick scabs to build some lame argument that we aren't, go ahead. No team is perfect with every decision. Luck plays a huge role in winning the big one. 

 

I'm confident we'll break through eventually. The last thing I want to do is clean house and think that will make us better. I support Terry Pegula for saving the Bills but I don't trust him to hire a new regime.

[Mike in Horseheads]

Virgil, Virgil Virgil.... why did you even open this can of worms ?

[Augie]

Just now, RoscoeParrish said:

Do you think Sean McDermott is better coaching against Andy Reid in the playoffs than he was in 2021?

 

That was not the question, was it?  Do I believe McD is a better coach than he was in 2021?  Yes. Reid is allowed to get better too.  Nobody said it would be easy. 

[PromoTheRobot]

8 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Joe Burrow would’ve made the playoffs if he was in the AFCE last year, with a record that was good enough for third in the AFCN.

 

Do you think the Bills would’ve won the AFCN every year from 2020 to now?

 

Maybe not every one. But more than the Bengals have.

[JerseyBills]

15 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Ask Joe Burrow how automatic those are.

Their GM is a joke and they still whooped us and won the AFC

[PonyBoy]

Damn....

This is still a hot topic??!! 

 

[RoscoeParrish]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Maybe not every one. But more than the Bengals have.

Do you think Josh is better than Burrow, and/or Burrow’s backup?

 

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

That was not the question, was it?  Do I believe McD is a better coach than he was in 2021?  Yes. Reid is allowed to get better too.  Nobody said it would be easy. 

Would you have expected if we just let Trent or EJ or JP Losman to play for 5 years, they would have gotten better?

 

I would.

 

would I expect them to improve to the point to make a difference?

 

I wouldn’t.
 

What makes you think McD is better at coaching against Andy Reid than he was in 2021? Be specific.

[PromoTheRobot]

11 minutes ago, JerseyBills said:

Their GM is a joke and they still whooped us and won the AFC

 

Which proves my point about luck.

Edited August 9 by PromoTheRobot

[Augie]

1 minute ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Would you have expected if we just let Trent or EJ or JP Losman to play for 5 years, they would have gotten better?

 

I would.

 

would I expect them to improve to the point to make a difference?

 

I wouldn’t.
 

What makes you think McD is better at coaching against Andy Reid than he was in 2021? Be specific.

 

That’s a very poor argument, IMO. It also shows your true leanings, and that’s just fine. Those were players with limited physical and/or processing skills vs an exceptionally winning head coach at a relatively young age who has shown a willingness to adapt as evidenced by recent coaching and player acquisitions. 

 

But, other than that… 

[PromoTheRobot]

9 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Do you think Josh is better than Burrow, and/or Burrow’s backup?

 

 

Burrow was great. Is he still?