So how does this Cook's "hold-in" end gracefully (if there is no extension)?

[Ya Digg?]

1 hour ago, noacls17 said:

It doesn't. If I were the Bills I would send him home and not want him around the team. Then trade him for whatever they can get. At best he is in  the 10 to 15 range for rb rankings . 15 mill is a ridiculous ask. Don't think he scores a combined 16 rushing td the rest of his career. 

If he plays and the Bills let him walk, they will get a 3rd round comp pick for him, but your feelings are hurt and you’ll take it whatever you can get for him. This is why fans don’t run teams

34 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

Hold in is just stupid. He signed a contract. I signed a contract in military. I'd get a rifle butt upside my head if I did a hold in Army. 

Your military contract doesn’t have language in there that makes hold ins possible. It’s in the CBA that players are allowed to do this 

[Mister Defense]

27 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

Hold in is just stupid. He signed a contract. I signed a contract in military. I'd get a rifle butt upside my head if I did a hold in Army. 

 

In a sports league like the NFL when players outplay their contracts, especially their rookie contracts, as no one really knows what each player is worth until they show it on the filed, it is extremely common practice to rip up the old contract, as it does not reflect the player's actual worth.

 

James Cook is one of those players who has significantly outplayed his contract. The NFL is very different from the army, as you hopefully know.

 

It would be nice if we could legitimately compare our type of everyday workman 'contracts' to those of NFL players, but we can't realistically do that.

 

And I don't believe it is legal to 'get a rifle but" slammed into your head by your superiors in either the military or the NFL. If this has happened to you, sue them.

 

I had a twisted drill sargeant in basic training at Fort Knox, but the worst she did to me was make me do 20 pushups to the wind (often).

 

 

[nuklz2594]

20 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

If he plays and the Bills let him walk, they will get a 3rd round comp pick for him, but your feelings are hurt and you’ll take it whatever you can get for him. This is why fans don’t run teams

Your military contract doesn’t have language in there that makes hold ins possible. It’s in the CBA that players are allowed to do this 

 

19 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

In a sports league like the NFL when players outplay their contracts, especially their rookie contracts, as no one really knows what each player is worth until they show it on the filed, it is extremely common practice to rip up the old contract, as it does not reflect the player's actual worth.

 

James Cook is one of those players who has significantly outplayed his contract. The NFL is very different from the army, as you hopefully know.

 

It would be nice if we could legitimately compare our type of everyday workman 'contracts' to those of NFL players, but we can't realistically do that.

 

And I don't believe it is legal to 'get a rifle but" slammed into your head by your superiors in either the military or the NFL. If this has happened to you, sue them.

 

I had a twisted drill sargeant in basic training at Fort Knox, but the worst she did to me was make me do 20 pushups to the wind (often).

 

 

At the end of the day, you honor your contract

[DaVinci]

Is Cook "sitting in " this game or sitting out

[nuklz2594]

Seems like whenever an rb holds out, holds in, gets an owner, there always to be a hamstring injury upon return 

[Billzgobowlin]

Someone is giving him bad advice.  The Bills don't look kindly on a public dispute and make no mistake they can roll with the other RBs as long as no one gets hurt.

[Ya Digg?]

1 minute ago, nuklz2594 said:

 

At the end of the day, you honor your contract

He showed up for mini camp, he showed up for training camp, the hold in is language that is allowed in his contract. Look at what happened to Rashawn Slater for the Chargers-if Cook blows out his knee during camp he will lose out on ever getting paid. Whether you like it or not, Cook is honoring his contract, he’s not doing anything that breaks it

[Mikie2times]

On 8/8/2025 at 11:23 AM, HappyDays said:

 

I would of course take those players over Cook, but for this offense stylistically I actually prefer Cook's skill set over the grind it out power skill set. I think the hammer type of back is good for an offense that doesn't have a QB because their goal is to prolong drives and shorten the game. For our Josh Allen led offense I want a RB that can pick up explosive plays and score a TD from anywhere on the field.

Not to mention one that is really poor with in structure explosives. Having a home run hitter is important for this offense. 

[nuklz2594]

3 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

 

At the end of the day, you honor your contract

US Army 2nd Cavalry 11Bravo retired. Things were different in the 80s

1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said:

He showed up for mini camp, he showed up for training camp, the hold in is language that is allowed in his contract. Look at what happened to Rashawn Slater for the Chargers-if Cook blows out his knee during camp he will lose out on ever getting paid. Whether you like it or not, Cook is honoring his contract, he’s not doing anything that breaks it

Never said he broke the contract once. 

[Billzgobowlin]

24 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

 

In a sports league like the NFL when players outplay their contracts, especially their rookie contracts, as no one really knows what each player is worth until they show it on the filed, it is extremely common practice to rip up the old contract, as it does not reflect the player's actual worth.

 

James Cook is one of those players who has significantly outplayed his contract. The NFL is very different from the army, as you hopefully know.

 

It would be nice if we could legitimately compare our type of everyday workman 'contracts' to those of NFL players, but we can't realistically do that.

 

And I don't believe it is legal to 'get a rifle but" slammed into your head by your superiors in either the military or the NFL. If this has happened to you, sue them.

 

I had a twisted drill sargeant in basic training at Fort Knox, but the worst she did to me was make me do 20 pushups to the wind (often).

 

 

What does  that even mean. This is the craziest mindset.  We overpay these players too much and they don't "deserve" the money they always seek.  Even if dude outplayed his contract he probably would have gotten a new contract if he didn't go over the top with his ask.  This isn't good for the future if we give in now he will want that new contract ripped in  another year or two

[nuklz2594]

[Ya Digg?]

5 minutes ago, nuklz2594 said:

US Army 2nd Cavalry 11Bravo retired. Things were different in the 80s

Never said he broke the contract once. 

So then you agree, he’s honoring his contract 

[nuklz2594]

47 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Someone is giving him bad advice.  The Bills don't look kindly on a public dispute and make no mistake they can roll with the other RBs as long as no one gets hurt.

Been listening to big brother chirping 

41 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

So then you agree, he’s honoring his contract 

Why not bring him a beer then?  We respectfully disagree. 

[DrDawkinstein]

3 hours ago, DaVinci said:

Is Cook "sitting in " this game or sitting out

 

Fully dressed and ready to go, just like he will be week 1 when it counts. Move along folks.

[BullBuchanan]

4 hours ago, nuklz2594 said:

Hold in is just stupid. He signed a contract. I signed a contract in military. I'd get a rifle butt upside my head if I did a hold in Army. 

Maybe you should have signed an NFL contract instead.

3 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

Someone is giving him bad advice.  The Bills don't look kindly on a public dispute and make no mistake they can roll with the other RBs as long as no one gets hurt.

It would be worse advice to risk getting injured on an expiring low-value contract as has happened with countless NFL players. This is about money.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

It ends gracefully by Beane caving and paying Cook his money after the Ray Davis debacle 

[Big Blitz]

 

[DrDawkinstein]

Here's a throwback to Earl Thomas flipping off his own Seahawks sideline after breaking his leg in the middle of contract negotiations...

 

 

[Einstein]

7 hours ago, DaVinci said:

Is Cook "sitting in " this game or sitting out

 

McDermott said he wanted Cook to play but Cook refused.

 due to the contract situation.

[Mailman]

29 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

McDermott said he wanted Cook to play but Cook refused.

 due to the contract situation.

The Bills could play hardball on this, if they wanted to. They hold all the cards and they're basically letting Cook "hold in".  Id say if a coach told a player to play and they refuse, thats a $$ issue, one he wants to avoid.