Report: Micah Parsons requests a trade

[Cubanmist 1]

I would trade Groot/Oliver, a 1st for parsons and a 3rd/wr.

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said:

On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal?

Yea, I would. 
 

It would hurt, which probably means it’s fair. 
 

Oliver has elite ability in him but it’s not consistent and it’s not Parsons in his prime who’s a whole other level.  
 

We keep saying Allen needs his Chris Jones.   We say that because no one has been that.  With this trade, that question is gone. 

[Shortchaz]

43 minutes ago, appoo said:

 

He’s multiple times better pass rusher than any edge on the roster. 
 

we’ve spent 4 years complaining about not getting pressure on Mahomes in the post season and we have people saying Micah doesn’t much value?

He’s a superstar, no doubt. If Allen was still on his rookie contract we could afford to invest the kind of capital in acquiring/retaining a player like him. If we did it now we’d end up with a net loss (imo) because it is a zero sum game. It would be one thing if it was just retaining a player like that, but to give precision draft capital to acquire him would be too risky. Our best hope is hitting on draft picks. 

[Dillenger4]

45 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

Bill Polian once said, to have a great team you need 3 Cornerstones. QB, LT to protect the QB and a DE that can consistently get after the QB.  Now I would add a damn good CB in this day in time, but his philosophy still holds true today.

 

We have Allen, Dawkins and.... A bunch of average bodies that aren't considered a threat to any OC.  Football hasn't changed so much that a stud DE should be a HUGE priority.  But we keep drafting, and queue the whiners talking about where we draft, and we keep adding average / hopeful FA's.   

 

Until we can hit on a guy we have to pay 30+ mill per year to, then its just not going to happen.  

Josh would have to re structure, we would need to send a player or 2 and at least 1 first. See my post above about how Polian said to build a team. I trade AJ, a 1st 2026, and a 2027 2nd and make the trade. Move the damn money around for this guy to get an extension and lets put to bed us HOPING the DL will deliver.

Bosa says "hi".

But I do hear what you are saying and I agree. Let's Hope Bosa is our guy.

[SoonerBillsFan]

22 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

Bosa says "hi".

But I do hear what you are saying and I agree. Let's Hope Bosa is our guy.

I like Bosa,but we need a younger guy that doesnt need a pitch count

[Allen2Moulds]

43 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Yea, I would. 
 

It would hurt, which probably means it’s fair. 
 

Oliver has elite ability in him but it’s not consistent and it’s not Parsons in his prime who’s a whole other level.  
 

We keep saying Allen needs his Chris Jones.   We say that because no one has been that.  With this trade, that question is gone. 

It's a hefty price, but worth it.  I also like the idea of TJ Sanders filling that role.  

[Billl]

8 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

He’s a superstar, no doubt. If Allen was still on his rookie contract we could afford to invest the kind of capital in acquiring/retaining a player like him. If we did it now we’d end up with a net loss (imo) because it is a zero sum game. It would be one thing if it was just retaining a player like that, but to give precision draft capital to acquire him would be too risky. Our best hope is hitting on draft picks. 

Not saying you’re wrong, but I just don’t understand this line of thinking.  Hoping to find a HOF caliber pass rusher drafting at the bottom of each round is risky.  Two late first round picks is roughly equal to a mid first round pick.  Beane had pick 16 and drafted Tremaine Edmunds.  He had the 9th pick and took Ed Oliver.  

 

There is nothing about Beane’s draft history that suggests he’s going to land a game wrecker in the draft, and even with trading for one, there’s nothing to stop him from trying to find another one with day 2-3 picks.  Josh is 29 years old.  You are smack dab in the prime of the best player your franchise will ever have.  Why get price conscious now?

[Shortchaz]

11 minutes ago, Billl said:

Not saying you’re wrong, but I just don’t understand this line of thinking.  Hoping to find a HOF caliber pass rusher drafting at the bottom of each round is risky.  Two late first round picks is roughly equal to a mid first round pick.  Beane had pick 16 and drafted Tremaine Edmunds.  He had the 9th pick and took Ed Oliver.  

 

There is nothing about Beane’s draft history that suggests he’s going to land a game wrecker in the draft, and even with trading for one, there’s nothing to stop him from trying to find another one with day 2-3 picks.  Josh is 29 years old.  You are smack dab in the prime of the best player your franchise will ever have.  Why get price conscious now?

Because making those picks is low risk while trading picks AND paying a player is high risk, inures etc. if you’re going to pay a player like that it’s better to do so in free agency. 
 

we essentially CAN’T afford a huge contract player. We NEED drafted players to pan out/outplay their rookie contract 

 

 

Edited Friday at 05:47 PM by Shortchaz

[Billl]

3 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Because making those picks is low risk while trading picks AND paying a player is high risk, inures etc. if you’re going to pay a player like that it’s better to do so in free agency. 
 

we essentially CAN’T afford a huge contract player. We NEED drafted players to pan out/outplay their rookie contract 

 

Sure, but 26 year old game wreckers don’t hit free agency.  7 years of Josh’s career has been spent waiting for the perfect storm to deliver a guy like that, and it hasn’t happened.  Beane is pretty unique in his ability to find good football players anywhere in the draft.  What he’s been incapable of is finding an elite talent in the draft since drafting Josh with his first ever selection.

 

Why not just lean into his  strengths as a GM by buying a superstar and counting on Beane to fill in the gaps with cheap talent through second and third day picks?  I mean, if a roster full of good-but-not-great players surrounding a superstar QB was enough to win a Super Bowl, Buffalo would be a dynasty.

[balln]

Yea let’s go all in. Like really all in.

 

trade some contracts to get Micah. Pay the king. Gladly trade our never contributing 1st round picks and then do some mid rd pick swaps

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Yea, I would. 
 

It would hurt, which probably means it’s fair. 
 

Oliver has elite ability in him but it’s not consistent and it’s not Parsons in his prime who’s a whole other level.  
 

We keep saying Allen needs his Chris Jones.   We say that because no one has been that.  With this trade, that question is gone. 

If we could keep Groot and maybe re-sign Bosa as rotational insurance,  acquiring Parsons would be huge. Ed is good but has always been inconsistent.  Sanders or Walker could fill that role with development. I could live with losing 2 firsts.

[MikePJ76]

33 minutes ago, Billl said:

Sure, but 26 year old game wreckers don’t hit free agency.  7 years of Josh’s career has been spent waiting for the perfect storm to deliver a guy like that, and it hasn’t happened.  Beane is pretty unique in his ability to find good football players anywhere in the draft.  What he’s been incapable of is finding an elite talent in the draft since drafting Josh with his first ever selection.

 

Why not just lean into his  strengths as a GM by buying a superstar and counting on Beane to fill in the gaps with cheap talent through second and third day picks?  I mean, if a roster full of good-but-not-great players surrounding a superstar QB was enough to win a Super Bowl, Buffalo would be a dynasty.

Why are you acting like Parsons is on the Trade Block.

 

He is not and he won't be getting traded and after he signs his deal for a billion dollars he will be talking about how he never wanted to play anywhere else.

 

also, parsons would drive the fan base nuts.  He does podcasts the day after every game and calls out his teammates and coaches.  The bills fan base flipped out because James Cook took his bills logos off his instagram and asked to be paid what he deserved.   They would lose their mind with parsons and his ego.  

 

he wouldn't have the giants and commanders to rack up 6 sacks a year each year either if he was in buffalo.  This is all a pointless conversation.

[Billl]

17 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

Why are you acting like Parsons is on the Trade Block.

Because I was responding to this question:

3 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said:

On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal?

 

[appoo]

1 hour ago, Shortchaz said:

He’s a superstar, no doubt. If Allen was still on his rookie contract we could afford to invest the kind of capital in acquiring/retaining a player like him. If we did it now we’d end up with a net loss (imo) because it is a zero sum game. It would be one thing if it was just retaining a player like that, but to give precision draft capital to acquire him would be too risky. Our best hope is hitting on draft picks. 

Buffalo would have to trade a big contract such as Olivers and get them to take on a contract like Curtis Samuel’s with more draft picks, and then do the equivalent of the NBA’s sign and trade so you extend him out so you only get with a 10M - 15M cap hit this season. 
 

it is absolutely do-able 

1 hour ago, Billl said:

Not saying you’re wrong, but I just don’t understand this line of thinking.  Hoping to find a HOF caliber pass rusher drafting at the bottom of each round is risky.  Two late first round picks is roughly equal to a mid first round pick.  Beane had pick 16 and drafted Tremaine Edmunds.  He had the 9th pick and took Ed Oliver.  

 

There is nothing about Beane’s draft history that suggests he’s going to land a game wrecker in the draft, and even with trading for one, there’s nothing to stop him from trying to find another one with day 2-3 picks.  Josh is 29 years old.  You are smack dab in the prime of the best player your franchise will ever have.  Why get price conscious now?

He basically got the value you’d hope for out of the 16th and 9th picks 

[Billl]

7 minutes ago, appoo said:

He basically got the value you’d hope for out of the 16th and 9th picks

So would you rather have those guys or Micah Parsons?

[appoo]

10 minutes ago, Billl said:

So would you rather have those guys or Micah Parsons?

I’m curious why you think that’s an appropriate comparison? Drafting a HOF player is like 80% luck. 
 

 

Edited Friday at 07:14 PM by appoo

[bigduke6]

Josh is in his prime.  need that game wrecker on defense to climb the last hill.  id mortgage the future like the Rams did for just one Super Bowl.  you want to win,  you have the QB,  now get this defenses Bruce Smith.  its now or never,  Mahomes and Reid arent going away.  its an arms race. 5 years down the line do you really want to think about what could have been? when Josh isnt MVP material anymore and the team is barely making the playoffs? do it while u can.

Edited Friday at 07:32 PM by bigduke6

[Buffalo Ballin]

100 page thread incoming?

[Billl]

35 minutes ago, appoo said:

I’m curious why you think that’s an appropriate comparison? Drafting a HOF player is like 80% luck. 
 

 

I agree with you. So with that being the case, why not trade for one if the opportunity presents itself?

[Mister Defense]

No thanks on Parson. Waayyy too expensive for the what he would bring to the Bills.

 

I don't think the Bills would want a player like that who is so focused on his podcast and social media and such, who throws his QB under the bus, and who seems to like conflict.

 

In addition, the Bills kind gave a blue print for how to make him irrelevant in games. He looked small and ineffective, a one trick pony who could be manhandled.

 

Would not be surprised to find that Parsons in the coming years is not the same pressure guy he has been--when healthy, which is another problem with him.

 

Then again, Dallas is one of the most dysfunctional teams, led by the head head case himself, so a change might be great for Parsons.

 

But the Bills won't be interested, in my opinion.  Thankfully.

 

Fun to see Jones continue to make himself into the  lead clown of the NFL owners. All about himself.