Brandon Beane "might be the most sensitive GM in the entire NFL"?

[4merper4mer]

21 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

you're fixed on how many teams passed on this or that player as though every team has exactly the same needs.  

 

You are the only person alive who would agree that Tre White would have had a bigger impact than TJ Watt.  This is just laughable.  Watt is a wrecker, disrupter.  White was a good DB for 4 years---ending 4  years ago.  The cut him loose after his achilles (his second career threatening injury)....only to bizarrely sign him years later after 2 mediocre/dud years on 2 teams, having played only 21 games since 2021.  I'll leave it to you to revisit Watt's stats. 

 

Huh?

 

Whaley was fired a day after the 2017 draft.  Not sure what you are getting at.  

 

I agree that Mahomes probably doesn't win a single SB with McD as HC in Buffalo.  

Pats troll logic:

 

1.Speak with arrogance, and as an arbiter of facts.

2. Demonstrate you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about by saying things like “White had 2 dud years on two different teams” when he was actually only gone for one year.

3. ???????

4. Profit

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

no one would equate Brady coming out of college with Mahomes.  You just did I think.. 

who knows what he would have done in Buffalo???  lol wtf

Mahomes wasn't a consensus number one overall pick either 

 

Hence why nine teams passed on him

 

 he also got to sit on the bench behind a pro bowl caliber quarterback and correct some flaws from the sideline which is always the correct way to bring along a quarterback if you can

Edited 4 hours ago by Buffalo716

[NewEra]

Revisited this thread and what do I see.  @Mr. WEO in 4 separate arguments.  

[Mr. WEO]

5 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Meaning would he have made a difference in getting to, much less winning, a SB.  

 

Infinitely more likely than any CB alive, let alone White.

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Mahomes wasn't a consensus number one overall pick either 

 

Hence why nine teams passed on him

 

 he also got to sit on the bench behind a pro bowl caliber quarterback and correct some flaws from the sideline which is always the correct way to bring along a quarterback if you can

 

no one is arguing he was "a consensus #1 pick", so you can holster that straw man.

 

 

2 hours ago, NewEra said:

Revisited this thread and what do I see.  @Mr. WEO in 4 separate arguments.  

 

swatting flies.....lol.

[BADOLBILZ]

On 7/2/2025 at 3:06 PM, Mat68 said:

Yes, Mahomes is great.  Using the capital gained from that trade was used to get Allen.  

 

No.   Totally incorrect.

 

The capital gained in the Mahomes-pick trade yielded Tre White and the Chiefs 2018 1st rounder that they then traded UP from to select Tremaine Edmunds.  

 

That cost an additional second rounder.

 

So they didn't even get Tre White and Tremaine Edmunds for Mahomes........let alone Allen.

 

None of the Mahomes trade capital was used to get Allen.

 

Edited 1 hour ago by BADOLBILZ

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

Mahomes wasn't a consensus number one overall pick either 

 

Hence why nine teams passed on him

 

 he also got to sit on the bench behind a pro bowl caliber quarterback and correct some flaws from the sideline which is always the correct way to bring along a quarterback if you can

 

 

The biggest crime was trading the pick to an AFC rival when they themselves needed a QB.

 

Utter stupidity.   The Chiefs were a team they were literally battling with for a final playoff spot for the Marrone/Rex era.

 

Getting Josh Allen in the next draft is probably the closest thing US pro sports has seen in prior recent memory to the Dallas Mavericks Nico Harrison lucking out and getting Cooper Flagg after stupidly trading away Luka Doncic.

 

It was a huge save and though it was lucky to get the most talented QB at #7 overall........a guy who would have gone #1 overall in a lot of prior drafts on tools alone........Beane deserves credit for doing the common sense thing and actually going all-in on a QB prospect.

 

By that I mean selecting a QB with their first #1 pick in the draft or trading up from that pick to do so.   Something, astonishingly, that the Ralph Wilson era Bills never did.

 

But because they traded Mahomes to the Chiefs they created their biggest road block to ever reaching a SB with Allen.   It's certainly cost them 2-4 trips already.   Just a brutal reminder of how important first steps can sometimes be.

 

 

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The biggest crime was trading the pick to an AFC rival when they themselves needed a QB.

 

Utter stupidity.   The Chiefs were a team they were literally battling with for a final playoff spot for the Marrone/Rex era.

 

Getting Josh Allen in the next draft is probably the closest thing US pro sports has seen in prior recent memory to the Dallas Mavericks Nico Harrison lucking out and getting Cooper Flagg after stupidly trading away Luka Doncic.

 

It was a huge save and though it was lucky to get the most talented QB at #7 overall........a guy who would have gone #1 overall in a lot of prior drafts on tools alone........Beane deserves credit for doing the common sense thing and actually going all-in on a QB prospect.

 

By that I mean selecting a QB with their first #1 pick in the draft or trading up from that pick to do so.   Something, astonishingly, that the Ralph Wilson era Bills never did.

 

But because they traded Mahomes to the Chiefs they created their biggest road block to ever reaching a SB with Allen.   It's certainly cost them 2-4 trips already.   Just a brutal reminder of how important first steps can sometimes be.

 

 

You're a bit too harsh imo when it comes to the Mahomes trade.  I don't exactly think McDermott had the Chiefs circled as a rivalry to get that final WC spot.  He just took over and knew he had to rebuild the team in his image and provide a certain "culture" (as corny as it sounds) to what was a clown organization at that point.  I don't blame him for getting that extra first in 2018 and want to at least attempt to build a foundation before drafting a rookie QB.  Nabbing Tre White at that spot in the draft was a hit.  If Mahomes was such a sure prospect he wouldn't have fallen to where he did.  Common group think at the time was the 2018 QB class was going to be superior to 2017's class.

 

Beane was luckily at his best his first year here.  Getting a 2nd for Watkins.  Trading Glenn to move up in the first round.  Getting Allen without having to give up a future 1st.  Somehow trading Tyrod for the first pick in the 3rd round.  He did botch the bridge QB horrifically with the infamous Peterman/McCarron preseason battle.  

Edited 7 minutes ago by Doc Brown