Josh Allen in the NFL Hall of Fame

[PonyBoy]

On 6/20/2025 at 4:14 PM, mjt328 said:

 

Disagree.

He can make it based on statistics alone. 

And right now, Josh Allen is well on pace (barring injury) to shatter every dual-threat QB record on the books.

 

For his first 7 seasons in the NFL, Allen is currently:

- 1st all-time in total yards

- 1st all-time in total touchdowns

- 1st all-time in total wins

 

Over 13 playoff games, he is also:

- 1st all-time in postseason yards per game

- 1st all-time in postseason touchdowns per game

- 1st all-time in postseason touchdown/INT ratio

 

Looking strictly at the Bills history, Allen is only a couple seasons away from breaking every Bills passing record currently held by Hall of Famer Jim Kelly.  He's already passed HOF running back OJ Simpson in rushing touchdowns, and will pass HOF running back Thurman Thomas next year.  He's currently #5 in rushing yards all-time for the team, and (believe it or not) it's actually possible for him to become #1 in that stat too.  Has any QB ever broken the yardage AND touchdown records for their team in BOTH passing and rushing?

 

Currently, Allen has 262 total touchdowns in his career.  He's already over half-way to being Top 5 in the history of the NFL.  Meaning 7 more seasons at the same pace, and he's right there.  Now, I'm not sure if he will ever catch Tom Brady (677 total), but everyone else on that list (Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre) can potentially be passed if Allen can keep playing into into his late 30s at a high level.  Seven more seasons makes him only 36, and some QBs are now playing well into their early 40s.

 

At the current pace, he's also half-way to being Top 10 all-time in passing touchdowns (#9 or #10 depending on how long Matthew Stafford plays).  It's totally conceivable for him to land right around the Top 5 on this list as well.

 

And the clincher... Allen is also half-way to being #3 all-time in RUSHING touchdowns (he will likely pass Cam Newton at the QB position either this year or next).  Again, not sure he can quite catch Emmitt Smith at 164.  But he could pass everyone else on that list, including LaDainian Tomlinson, Marcus Allen, Adrian Peterson, Walter Payton and Jim Brown.

 

 

Nice research!

As I have said before, that's why I love this board! Fan...atics! 

[Charles Romes]

He’s in already based on being the first ever to go 40+ five straight years. It’s analogous to TT leading the league in total yards from scrimmage 4 straight years. 

[ColoradoBills]

19 hours ago, FireChans said:

Josh Allen hasn’t played that many though.

 

Lamar is in if he retired tomorrow. I don’t think Josh is.

 

 

[FireChans]

On 6/20/2025 at 6:14 PM, mjt328 said:

 

Disagree.

He can make it based on statistics alone. 

And right now, Josh Allen is well on pace (barring injury) to shatter every dual-threat QB record on the books.

 

For his first 7 seasons in the NFL, Allen is currently:

- 1st all-time in total yards

- 1st all-time in total touchdowns

- 1st all-time in total wins

 

Over 13 playoff games, he is also:

- 1st all-time in postseason yards per game

- 1st all-time in postseason touchdowns per game

- 1st all-time in postseason touchdown/INT ratio

 

Looking strictly at the Bills history, Allen is only a couple seasons away from breaking every Bills passing record currently held by Hall of Famer Jim Kelly.  He's already passed HOF running back OJ Simpson in rushing touchdowns, and will pass HOF running back Thurman Thomas next year.  He's currently #5 in rushing yards all-time for the team, and (believe it or not) it's actually possible for him to become #1 in that stat too.  Has any QB ever broken the yardage AND touchdown records for their team in BOTH passing and rushing?

 

Currently, Allen has 262 total touchdowns in his career.  He's already over half-way to being Top 5 in the history of the NFL.  Meaning 7 more seasons at the same pace, and he's right there.  Now, I'm not sure if he will ever catch Tom Brady (677 total), but everyone else on that list (Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre) can potentially be passed if Allen can keep playing into into his late 30s at a high level.  Seven more seasons makes him only 36, and some QBs are now playing well into their early 40s.

 

At the current pace, he's also half-way to being Top 10 all-time in passing touchdowns (#9 or #10 depending on how long Matthew Stafford plays).  It's totally conceivable for him to land right around the Top 5 on this list as well.

 

And the clincher... Allen is also half-way to being #3 all-time in RUSHING touchdowns (he will likely pass Cam Newton at the QB position either this year or next).  Again, not sure he can quite catch Emmitt Smith at 164.  But he could pass everyone else on that list, including LaDainian Tomlinson, Marcus Allen, Adrian Peterson, Walter Payton and Jim Brown.

 

Do you earnestly believe Josh will be getting 12-15 rushing TDs a season at 35 or 36 years old?

[LarryMadman]

On 6/21/2025 at 12:28 PM, FireChans said:

I feel like playoff wins and “some of the best playoff stats” end up lost in HoF talk.

 

keep in mind, I’m not saying this is my criteria but the actual criteria.

 

Based on the most recent QBs, the thing that matters most is hardware. AP, MVP, SBMVP, ProBowls.

 

The next is career records, aka TDs, yards, wins, etc etc.

 

Then everything else.

 

Rivers has the longevity and very good numbers but lacks hardware. He is one of the very good numbers but never an All Pro, never an MVP, never won his conference.

 

There’s just such a glut of QBs upcoming.

 

The QBs in the HoF mix over the next decade are:

 

Brady

Brees

Ben

Rodgers

Rivers

Ryan

Eli

 

The first 4 are locks and the next 3 are not. I would be extremely surprised if all 7 are inducted and would not be surprised if Rivers and Ryan are snubbed.

 

And Josh Allen’s resume today is closer to the latter 3 than the first 4. He would not be a Hall of Famer today if he retired like Mahomes or even Lamar would be. IMO.

Why does Lamar get in and Josh doesnt?

[FireChans]

15 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

Why does Lamar get in and Josh doesnt?

Because Lamar is a 2 time MVP and 3 time first team All Pro.