B-Man Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago I'm gonna spell this out just once, so people can link this tweet to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, *****-eating simian creatures that whine about BoOtS oN tHe GrOuNd as if America's going to conduct a land invasion of Iran with eleventy gorillion troops and fight in the caves for a generation: Everything that makes Iran a problem comes from a factory, and those factories can be vaporized from the air. Most US casualties in Iraq were caused by sophisticated off-route EFP mines mass-produced by Iran. The rockets fired at Israel in such massive quantities that it threatened to deplete Israeli Iron Dome interceptor stocks and overwhelm their systems? Mass produced by Iran. The drones and missiles the Houthis used to close the Bab-El-Mandab strait, and thus the Suez canal, one of the most economically vital sea lines of communication in existence? Mass-produced by Iran. The SRBMs being fired at Ukraine by Russia? Mass-produced and delivered to them by Iran. The massive heavy MRBM arsenal they've been attempting to mass-murder Israeli civilians with and have used to threaten and coerce everyone else in the region, reaching as far as southern Europe/Italy? Mass-produced by Iran. None of this happens without Iranian mass weapon production, many millions of dollars in fiscal support and Iranian military advisors, leadership and intel support. You don't get the kind of problems in that region from six ***** clowns making home-made grenades out of soda bottles, bathtub explosives and rusty nails. Anti-ship ballistic missiles aren't cobbled together by ***** Jihad Cletus in his garage. Blow up the Iranian military-industrial complex, take out their nuclear program, and these problems go away. Forever. And if they try to build them again? You blow them up again. There isn't a hole deep enough for them to climb in. We built a massive, 30,000 pound bunker-busting bomb to make doubly god-damned sure of it. There is never, at any possible point in time, any ***** reason whatsoever to put a single god-damned ***** "boot" on the "ground" in Iran. Every single "Forever War" in the Middle East is caused and perpetuated by Iran, and the only consequences for us ending it would be a three percent bump in Lockheed Martin stock. 1 1
Roundybout Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: I'm gonna spell this out just once, so people can link this tweet to the knuckle-dragging, mouth-breathing, *****-eating simian creatures that whine about BoOtS oN tHe GrOuNd as if America's going to conduct a land invasion of Iran with eleventy gorillion troops and fight in the caves for a generation: Everything that makes Iran a problem comes from a factory, and those factories can be vaporized from the air. Most US casualties in Iraq were caused by sophisticated off-route EFP mines mass-produced by Iran. The rockets fired at Israel in such massive quantities that it threatened to deplete Israeli Iron Dome interceptor stocks and overwhelm their systems? Mass produced by Iran. The drones and missiles the Houthis used to close the Bab-El-Mandab strait, and thus the Suez canal, one of the most economically vital sea lines of communication in existence? Mass-produced by Iran. The SRBMs being fired at Ukraine by Russia? Mass-produced and delivered to them by Iran. The massive heavy MRBM arsenal they've been attempting to mass-murder Israeli civilians with and have used to threaten and coerce everyone else in the region, reaching as far as southern Europe/Italy? Mass-produced by Iran. None of this happens without Iranian mass weapon production, many millions of dollars in fiscal support and Iranian military advisors, leadership and intel support. You don't get the kind of problems in that region from six ***** clowns making home-made grenades out of soda bottles, bathtub explosives and rusty nails. Anti-ship ballistic missiles aren't cobbled together by ***** Jihad Cletus in his garage. Blow up the Iranian military-industrial complex, take out their nuclear program, and these problems go away. Forever. And if they try to build them again? You blow them up again. There isn't a hole deep enough for them to climb in. We built a massive, 30,000 pound bunker-busting bomb to make doubly god-damned sure of it. There is never, at any possible point in time, any ***** reason whatsoever to put a single god-damned ***** "boot" on the "ground" in Iran. Every single "Forever War" in the Middle East is caused and perpetuated by Iran, and the only consequences for us ending it would be a three percent bump in Lockheed Martin stock. All well and good. Just stop pretending Trump is the “president of peace.” He lied. You ate it up. 1
muppy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 28 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: I missed this the first time.... Think tank? You're in the cesspool. if posters like @Jauronimo are here u best believe it is a potential think tank wether you like it or not I know its thee dungeon of TBD Im not stupid and neither are you deuces 1 1
Mikie2times Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) 22 minutes ago, muppy said: if posters like @Jauronimo are here u best believe it is a potential think tank wether you like it or not I know its thee dungeon of TBD Im not stupid and neither are you deuces Edited 6 hours ago by Mikie2times 4
Jauronimo Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 36 minutes ago, muppy said: if posters like @Jauronimo are here u best believe it is a potential think tank wether you like it or not I know its thee dungeon of TBD Im not stupid and neither are you deuces My derisive brand of both sides bad is glaringly short on answers. 1
muppy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: My derisive brand of both sides bad is glaringly short on answers. so modest lol you know I tell the truth as I see it 😄 I think Mikie would be a great fit in the shout box. He's smart and mouthy LOL
ComradeKayAdams Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 3 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Rewind the clock back to 1953 when America.via the CIA initiated a coup against the democratically elected government in Iran ino order to save American and British oil interests in the country from nationalization. Installed the dictatorship in the form of the Shah until 1979 when the Clerics took over. One bad guy for another. I'll leave the lesson to be learned here about the short and long term consequences of intervention to others. The law of unintended consequences? Good luck with that. The vast majority of Americans are perfectly comfortable with “might makes right” imperialism. We’re simply too ignorant and arrogant to learn lessons from the past 80 years of failed interventionism. Most contemporary Americans can’t even distinguish between democratic socialism and authoritarian socialism, so it’s a safe bet that most Americans alive today would have supported the 1953 coup in Iran. It would have been efficaciously sold to us under the guise of ethical existentialism, as opposed to the blatant machinations of American and British fossil fuel oligarchs. Imperialism and Zionism go hand in hand, of course, so no surprise that this majority Christian nation can’t see Israel for the rogue pariah state it has become. Americans find comfort in a black-and-white view of the world because it assuages our delicate egos and our infantile preconceptions. We need to see “good guys” fighting “bad guys,” and we need to be the “good guys.” This is why we obstinately maintain so much trust in a nation actively committing genocide, stealing more Arab land, and refusing to sign the NPT. This is why we are unable to examine our own country’s mistakes in diplomacy from the perspective of Iran, which quite rationally desires the status of a North Korea over that of a present-day Libya. Still waiting for ANY evidence that Iran’s nuclear program posed an IMMINENT threat to Israel and the United States… 3 hours ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: Short answer: Focus more on creating a better future, instead of putting up barriers to progress. Democrats are so focused on "fairness" that nothing ends up getting done. New York state is a compassionate state, so much so that we can't build enough houses and end up with homeless people all over the place. They don't have a homeless problem in Houston, they just build there. We have so many issues with transportation, and look at California's bullet train fiasco. Trump is pushing for the eVTOL revolution which is a great thing and will lead to a revolution in transportation, I think and hope. (Not just because I invest in that area, lol) And on Global Warming, why in the hell are the Dems pushing for a complete change to electric vehicles no one wants? I guess its a hatred of the oil industry in part. A simplier and less disruptive and politically sensible solution is to make a scientific push for carbon sequestration. Make it a priority of Democratic leadership to figure out that technology. We can all keep our interal combustion vehicles, which I think we love, really. But no, Dems have to do it the hard way and piss everyone off. The future looks scary with AI, space weapons, drones, China growing stronger everyday, authoritarianism a threat, and Democrats had better get ahead of things on those fronts by showing democracy works and above all else that it, and the Democratic Party, can actually accomplish somethings, big things. Word! OH MY GOD, Tibsy…you’ve been reading Ezra Klein’s “Abundance,” haven’t you?? I want to remain mindful of not hijacking the thread, so I’ll just make these two quick points: 1. Some regulations are bad, and some are good. Regulations that prevent ecosystem degradation and promote collective bargaining are most often among the latter category. 2. Be wary of anyone not willing to frame political arguments as the American people in opposition to corporate oligarchs. More specifically, be skeptical of anyone who is not vocally against Citizens United v. FEC (2010). << Kay throws her green MAFA** hat at Tibsy’s face >> ** - MAFA = Make America Forested Again (it’s a custom designed hat!)
BillsFanNC Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, muppy said: if posters like @Jauronimo are here u best believe it is a potential think tank wether you like it or not I know its thee dungeon of TBD Im not stupid and neither are you deuces Ahhh Jauronimo! One of the main inspirations for the thread linked below. He told us over and over than none of this well documented stuff is happening. Long on my ignore. 1
Jauronimo Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Ahhh Jauronimo! One of the main inspirations for the thread linked below. He told us over and over than none of this well documented stuff is happening. Long on my ignore. I don't know if I have a single post in that rats nest. You have 800 posts in that thread because you are a raving lunatic with a crappy memory. 2
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 55 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I'll add to this. I see Trump as a reaction to the failings of both major parties. I know a lot of Trump-supporting vets (which seems absurd to me in view of suckers and losers, but whatever) who I strongly suspect are with him based on the failings of George W. Bush. They went to war in Iraq based on a lie, left blood, sweat, tears, limbs, and friends there, and it was all a waste. So they seized on both Bernie and Trump. Now they're with Trump. Whether they stick with the Republican Party remains to be seen. (I suspect they'd flip back to a Bernie candidate who looks like them pretty easily.) But time will tell. And really, it won't take that many voters to switch to make a difference. Trump won a low turnout election, further proof of the distaste for both parties. 1
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 43 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said: OH MY GOD, Tibsy…you’ve been reading Ezra Klein’s “Abundance,” haven’t you?? I want to remain mindful of not hijacking the thread, so I’ll just make these two quick points: 1. Some regulations are bad, and some are good. Regulations that prevent ecosystem degradation and promote collective bargaining are most often among the latter category. 2. Be wary of anyone not willing to frame political arguments as the American people in opposition to corporate oligarchs. More specifically, be skeptical of anyone who is not vocally against Citizens United v. FEC (2010). << Kay throws her green MAFA** hat at Tibsy’s face >> ** - MAFA = Make America Forested Again (it’s a custom designed hat!) Guilty as charged. Yes, I ate that book up. It really spoke to me and my experiences living in Western New York. Yes, there are good regulations, but the homeless problem her is just horrible. We care so much for the poor we make them live on the streets. The world is changing so fast and the Democrats are stuck in the past, imo. Their answer to every problem seems like more paperwork 13 minutes ago, Homelander said: HA HA HA! Is that the same two weeks where his health care plan will be released. So Tucker Carlson seems to have won 1
Doc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 17 hours ago, Homelander said: Can you remind me when COVID first hit? In 2020. Maybe 2019. We knew nothing about it because it was a novel coronavirus. We had no treatments, certainly no vaccines and weren't sure how to manage it. By the time Biden took Office, we had vaccines and a better understanding of the virus. There were as many deaths in Biden's first year as Trump's last year in Office.
SectionC3 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Doc said: In 2020. Maybe 2019. We knew nothing about it because it was a novel coronavirus. We had no treatments, certainly no vaccines and weren't sure how to manage it. By the time Biden took Office, we had vaccines and a better understanding of the virus. There were as many deaths in Biden's first year as Trump's last year in Office. Because social distancing was going away and idiot Trumpers wouldn’t take the vac and instead experimented with garbage remedies like HCQ. 1
JDHillFan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Because social distancing was going away and idiot Trumpers wouldn’t take the vac and instead experimented with garbage remedies like HCQ. If only people followed the science and did their part by staying six feet apart! It didn’t get any more science-y than 6’. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻🤦🏻♀️ 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: I think the worst part is that our reality is shaped based on where we fall in the political spectrum. 30 years ago there were like 5 outlets for news and they were all basically the same. We could largely agree on some basic "facts" or "truths" even when they were wrong. Now we have algorithm dictated infotainment delivering a 24/7 feed of confirmation bias. Whatever you engage with the longest is the truth. Whether its deep fakes, rage bait, conspiracy theories, outright fabrications, mainstream fluff, it doesn't matter. Whatever keeps your eyeballs on the screen the longest determines what "news" you get and therefor your reality. If the news tells you the earth is round and that doesn't tickle your fancy, keep scrolling and you'll have no problem finding a community of flat earthers that will take you in. You are never alone no matter how far off the reservation you have wandered. Every viewpoint is now equal. All "facts" are equal. Very few people question their feed when its reinforcing their world view. Its increasingly difficult to find common ground and I don't see that getting better. Our political discourse is increasingly shaped by the raging debate between the lunatic fringes on either side. And now they have their own social media platforms. Which echo chamber do you prefer: every piece of art made in the past 1,000 years is a misogynistic, racist, transphobic microgression giving bad vibes OR 10 million Guatemalans have attacked the Lincoln Memorial and are eating dogs? Here's my conspiracy theory: Social media is the greatest psy op in recorded history. Soviet level cynicism incoming. 30 years ago there were far more than 5 news outlets. Media is global. Was then too. That's why we can almost always piece together truth. It's important to watch the BBC when trade deals with the UK are being discussed. Better yet, The Guardian or Economist. Or the CBC when the 51st state is being discussed...Or the Jerusalem Post or Al Jezeera when the middle east is raging... Yes, algorithms play a huge part in what news people consume. But they needn't. There is still truth.
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