ISRAEL V IRAN: Trump just warned everyone should evacuate Tehran

[Doc]

Just now, Homelander said:

They’re pulling for Iran,’ they cry because calling out Trump’s hypocrisy apparently equals treason. Sorry, we’re not rooting for Iran - we’re just not afraid to point out the lies, the double standards, and the gullible idiots who keep falling for them.

 

This issue should have been resolved on Day 1.

 

So should have Wuhan virus on January 20, 2021.  Guess what?  Campaign promises don't always come true/immediately.

[Roundybout]

3 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Did that bother you with Ukraine?

 

We aren’t there are we?

 

Easily could be.  President of Peace knows that’s no one’s fight - where are the videos from there by the way?  
 

I’ve seen more video from Iran in 2 days than Ukraine in 3 years.  
 

 

 

 

 

There have been something like 85,000 videos from the Ukraine War. You’re not looking hard enough 

[Homelander]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

So should have Wuhan virus on January 20, 2021.  Guess what?  Campaign promises don't always come true/immediately.

 

 

[Homelander]

 

[Big Blitz]

 

Libs:

 

”Haha.  See.  He’s …… um…..wait…….what are we rooting for again?”

[B-Man]

 

 

If the Iranian Regime Falls, What Will Follow?

David Strom

 

A sudden collapse of the Iranian regime looks like a real possibility. 

As far as I know, the Israelis have no plans to take out Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, but they are systematically dismantling the pillars of state power underneath him. The Ayatollahs are on the run, and the generation that put them into power doesn't have a ton of support from average Iranians. 

 

Persia in the 1960s and 1970s was a rapidly developing and Westernizing country. It was the regional power, balancing the less Western-friendly Arab states. The women were treated with dignity and enjoyed the same freedoms as Western women--videos of Iranians living their daily life were not very dissimilar to those from a European Mediterranean city. 

But the regime was toppled by Islamists who were very unhappy with the trend toward Westernization. An unholy alliance between communists and Islamists systematically undermined the regime, and when Jimmy Carter withdrew US support for the Shah due to his repression of the opposition, the regime fell. 

 

The Shah was right and Carter was wrong. We have been in a low-medium level conflict with Iran for over four decades, and millions died in the Iran-Iraq war because of Carter's foolishness. The Middle East was destabilized, and progress was set back decades. 

 

Still, the fall of the Ayatollahs and the reinstatement of a constitutional monarchy — a somewhat likely outcome — does not guarantee an Iran that returns to relative stability. Just as the fall of Gaddafi in Libya led to chaos, that is one possible outcome. The mechanisms of state power are being destroyed, and Iran's economy has been devastated by sanctions and now war. 

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/06/16/if-the-iranian-regime-falls-what-will-follow-n3803857

[Homelander]

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

[sherpa]

3 hours ago, Wacka said:

Coud be AWACS helping to direct the Israeli  forces?

 

Just a small point for general information.

Our AWACS capability would not require anything to be in Iranian airspace.

That includes Air Force and Navy.

Both services have AWACS that would be well away from that airspace and be fully capable of doing their thing.

[Big Blitz]

 

[Wacka]

32 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Just a small point for general information.

Our AWACS capability would not require anything to be in Iranian airspace.

That includes Air Force and Navy.

Both services have AWACS that would be well away from that airspace and be fully capable of doing their thing.

Thank you for your service and information you have accumulated.

[CoudyBills]

3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

Can't wait for Boris to ***** it up.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

If the Iranian Regime Falls, What Will Follow?

David Strom

 

A sudden collapse of the Iranian regime looks like a real possibility. 

As far as I know, the Israelis have no plans to take out Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, but they are systematically dismantling the pillars of state power underneath him. The Ayatollahs are on the run, and the generation that put them into power doesn't have a ton of support from average Iranians. 

 

Persia in the 1960s and 1970s was a rapidly developing and Westernizing country. It was the regional power, balancing the less Western-friendly Arab states. The women were treated with dignity and enjoyed the same freedoms as Western women--videos of Iranians living their daily life were not very dissimilar to those from a European Mediterranean city. 

But the regime was toppled by Islamists who were very unhappy with the trend toward Westernization. An unholy alliance between communists and Islamists systematically undermined the regime, and when Jimmy Carter withdrew US support for the Shah due to his repression of the opposition, the regime fell. 

 

The Shah was right and Carter was wrong. We have been in a low-medium level conflict with Iran for over four decades, and millions died in the Iran-Iraq war because of Carter's foolishness. The Middle East was destabilized, and progress was set back decades. 

 

Still, the fall of the Ayatollahs and the reinstatement of a constitutional monarchy — a somewhat likely outcome — does not guarantee an Iran that returns to relative stability. Just as the fall of Gaddafi in Libya led to chaos, that is one possible outcome. The mechanisms of state power are being destroyed, and Iran's economy has been devastated by sanctions and now war. 

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/06/16/if-the-iranian-regime-falls-what-will-follow-n3803857

What is left out of the story is the 1953 CIA led coup that installed the Shah to power. This was done to block plans to nationalize western oil holdings. This is the root cause of much of the country's animosity towards the U.S. 

 

Joining this war now would only reinforce the view that American Middle East policy is directed by Isreal. I don't believe that but this would cause a review of that conclusion. Seems like Trump is getting played like a fiddle here.

 

Sure Iran should be blocked from acquiring nuclear weapons because the regime is unstable. But Isreal has nuks and convince me they wouldn't use them if the circumstances required or if they were threatened with defeat. Maybe they should be required to surrender those warheads as part of any peace deal?

[JDHillFan]

8 hours ago, Roundybout said:

No no. This is rapidly escalating to sending US forces over there.

 

 

Something allllllll the MAGA chuds said would never happen if we picked Trump over Harris. 

Do you remember referring to Trump’s Greenland and Canada comments as saber rattling? About how he was planning to invade? Add Panama to that mix. It all made you look like a melodramatic queen. As does the post above. 
 

You are the Jim Cramer of PPP. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

7 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

If the Iranian Regime Falls, What Will Follow?

David Strom

 

A sudden collapse of the Iranian regime looks like a real possibility. 

As far as I know, the Israelis have no plans to take out Iran's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, but they are systematically dismantling the pillars of state power underneath him. The Ayatollahs are on the run, and the generation that put them into power doesn't have a ton of support from average Iranians. 

 

Persia in the 1960s and 1970s was a rapidly developing and Westernizing country. It was the regional power, balancing the less Western-friendly Arab states. The women were treated with dignity and enjoyed the same freedoms as Western women--videos of Iranians living their daily life were not very dissimilar to those from a European Mediterranean city. 

But the regime was toppled by Islamists who were very unhappy with the trend toward Westernization. An unholy alliance between communists and Islamists systematically undermined the regime, and when Jimmy Carter withdrew US support for the Shah due to his repression of the opposition, the regime fell. 

 

The Shah was right and Carter was wrong. We have been in a low-medium level conflict with Iran for over four decades, and millions died in the Iran-Iraq war because of Carter's foolishness. The Middle East was destabilized, and progress was set back decades. 

 

Still, the fall of the Ayatollahs and the reinstatement of a constitutional monarchy — a somewhat likely outcome — does not guarantee an Iran that returns to relative stability. Just as the fall of Gaddafi in Libya led to chaos, that is one possible outcome. The mechanisms of state power are being destroyed, and Iran's economy has been devastated by sanctions and now war. 

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/06/16/if-the-iranian-regime-falls-what-will-follow-n3803857

How is the regime going to fall?? This is stupid. These thuggish governments don't just fall they have to be rooted out. 

 

It would be great if Iran joined the world of nations as a republic, but it will take an invasion to do that 

36 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

What is left out of the story is the 1953 CIA led coup that installed the Shah to power. This was done to block plans to nationalize western oil holdings. This is the root cause of much of the country's animosity towards the U.S. 

 

Joining this war now would only reinforce the view that American Middle East policy is directed by Isreal. I don't believe that but this would cause a review of that conclusion. Seems like Trump is getting played like a fiddle here.

 

Sure Iran should be blocked from acquiring nuclear weapons because the regime is unstable. But Isreal has nuks and convince me they wouldn't use them if the circumstances required or if they were threatened with defeat. Maybe they should be required to surrender those warheads as part of any peace deal?

Who Israel? They should surrender their nukes? 

 

Lol, ya, great idea! The first person to suggest that in public would be shouted down as an anti semite

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

9 hours ago, Homelander said:

 

Two criminals in charge, what would anyone expect 

7 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Just a small point for general information.

Our AWACS capability would not require anything to be in Iranian airspace.

That includes Air Force and Navy.

Both services have AWACS that would be well away from that airspace and be fully capable of doing their thing.

But the argument being put forward is that only the US with B2 bombers and MOABs can take out the Iranian nuclear facility at Fordow and I'll sell you a bridge if you think Bibi isn't pushing Trump to do it. 

[Trump_is_Mentally_fit]

 

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[ChiGoose]

This war never would have happened if Trump was President 

[JDHillFan]

Just now, ChiGoose said:

This war never would have happened if Trump was President 

I look forward to one day hearing a tortured explanation from you on how you were right about border politics. Please don’t make us wait much longer.