Thurmal34 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago I was told this would never happen if Taco was in charge 1
gobills404 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, JDHillFan said: A bomb shelter is more noble than fleeing your own country like a coward while your citizens pay the price for your actions.
Thurmal34 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago I dunno man, it's possible to call out Israel for starving Gazans and also support this attack. Israel has the best intelligence service in the world, and if they decided to attack Iran at this magnitude, they must have felt is was "now or never" in terms of Iran's progression toward a nuke. While Bibi is a far right extremist, there is still an extremely professional defense and leadership apparatus in place in Israel. This would not have happened without solid, actionable, intelligence that Iran was very very close. They have a right to prevent a sworn enemy from acquiring weapons that will endanger their survival. 1 1
Doc Brown Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 6 hours ago, Mikie2times said: I’m more of the opinion that Iran will be Iran and they can never be trusted. So I don’t out this on Trump. But reading Trumps rhetoric today, he just constantly goes to the biggest threat he has. The boldest language. Yet nobody ever seems to give a crap. As I have said before, you can’t always go all in. People will eventually see most the time it’s bluffing. I’m concerned this will eventually back his ego into a corner and he will make an overly aggressive action to compensate for all the previous threats nobody took seriously. His posturing is eventually going to cost him and us. He often talks out of both sides of his mouth because of the split between traditional conservatives and MAGA conservatives on specific issues despite their being an overlap on most. Specifically when it comes to foreign policy where most the former see strength through force and more of the latter see avoid wars at all costs. Plus, he has the added barren of his most important responsibility of doing what's best for America as a whole. You saw the same out play with him in how he handled Covid. As president he said it should be up to the individual states and he'll provide whatever federal assistance they feel they'll need. However, on Twitter that night to appease the MAGA base of his supporters he'd tweet or retweet Democratic governors that had a more strict Covid policy. It's not that unique for a president to battle appeasing both his own party and what he thinks is best for America. Trump has the added burden though of appeasing two sides of his party while doing what he thinks is best for the American people. I really don't envy him. 1
Doc Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 hours ago, Homelander said: 7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: yeah, we;'re dealing with the 10% morons here. Right. As always, a firm grasp on things... 7 hours ago, Big Blitz said: What?? Ukraine is “essentially” NATO?? Um. No. Israel is our ally. Iran is a legit global threat especially to the West. Lost. You people are lost. You'd think that siding with Hamas was the dumbest they could go... 1
yall Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: Absolute lunacy. It's like they just want to take the most contrarian position that they can. It's no surprise half of them want to cut off their penises.
Homelander Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 16 hours ago, sherpa said: The JCPOA did nothing to stop the Iranian development. Hoax. The Iran deal slashed their uranium stockpile by 97%, capped enrichment, and brought in inspectors. That’s called results. Trump killing it didn’t stop Iran - it freed them. And let’s be honest - we all know why you really hated the deal: the president who signed it was Black. Your track record on anyone who isn’t white and straight says the quiet part for you. 1
yall Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Homelander said: Hoax. The Iran deal slashed their uranium stockpile by 97%, capped enrichment, and brought in inspectors. That’s called results. Trump killing it didn’t stop Iran - it freed them. And let’s be honest - we all know why you really hated the deal: the president who signed it was Black. Your track record on anyone who isn’t white and straight says the quiet part for you. Good Lord you'll believe anything. Iran agreed to that deal was like Tony promising Carmella that he wouldn't cheat on her anymore. You're as delusional as she was. 1 1
sherpa Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Homelander said: And let’s be honest - we all know why you really hated the deal: the president who signed it was Black. Your track record on anyone who isn’t white and straight says the quiet part for you. Insane claims warrant no response. To the subject, the program never stopped, and I consider it a waste of time, just as the agreement Jimmy Carter worked out with North Korea, the "Agreed to Framework," a deal he sprung of the Clinton Administration, never stopped N. Korea. Kicking the can is a regular strategy of politicians refusing to deal with the realities of the day. 1
Homelander Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 13 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: They equate anarchy to democracy and look at anyone working to maintain a civil society as an authoritarian. Funny coming from the same people who lost their minds over wearing a mask or thought storming the Capitol was just another tourist visit. Spare us the lectures on democracy and civil society.
All_Pro_Bills Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Homelander said: Funny coming from the same people who lost their minds over wearing a mask or thought storming the Capitol was just another tourist visit. Spare us the lectures on democracy and civil society. The video evidence supports the tourist view for the protesters except for a handful of bad actors. We've all acknowledge J6 rioters deserved to be arrested. Something I'd like to see you acknowledge with the current riots. What the anarchists think they're going to accomplish is a mystery. It's a losing position on a losing issue. Protecting illegsl immigrant rapists, murderers, drug dealers, sex traffickers and others from justice.. Why not extend the courtesy to the domestic creeps too? All funded by shady NGO dark money much of it from China. How is life as one of Xi's useful idiots? 1 2
The Frankish Reich Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 13 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: I dunno man, it's possible to call out Israel for starving Gazans and also support this attack. Exactly.
Doc Brown Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I've always agreed with this approach to foreign policy as laid out by Levin here. This is what I'm talking about with the split between MAGA conservatives and traditional conservatives when it comes to foreign policy. Trump trying to appease both is tough to do.
SectionC3 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I've always agreed with this approach to foreign policy as laid out by Levin here. This is what I'm talking about with the split between MAGA conservatives and traditional conservatives when it comes to foreign policy. Trump trying to appease both is tough to do. I didn't read the tweet, but I agree with your comment. MAGA "conservatives" and, how shall I say this, actual conservatives are generally two different things. When they're bundled into one, we get friction points such as this one. Traditional, conservative foreign policy would support Israel here. MAGA "conservatism" is isolationist and would leave this issue to the warring nations.
Doc Brown Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I didn't read the tweet, but I agree with your comment. MAGA "conservatives" and, how shall I say this, actual conservatives are generally two different things. When they're bundled into one, we get friction points such as this one. Traditional, conservative foreign policy would support Israel here. MAGA "conservatism" is isolationist and would leave this issue to the warring nations. That's kind of where you can catch the grifters in conservative media. The tariff policy for example. Traditional conservatives know that the power of the purse should be in the legislative branch and that Trump is violating the constitution with his tariffs. They're also pro free trade and not isolationists. Seeing some twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain why tariffs are a good thing and not a direct tax on the American people is hilarious to me. Edited 1 hour ago by Doc Brown
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