DEVELOPING: Israel launches strike on Iran nuke cites and military command

[Niagara Bill]

Russia is prepared to move forward around the world. 

Conflict is about to happen in many theaters. 

The big question is...what side will trump place the US on. 

[JDHillFan]

4 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Russia is prepared to move forward around the world. 

Conflict is about to happen in many theaters. 

The big question is...what side will trump place the US on. 

Russia cannot get out of their own way as it relates to Ukraine and they are going to move forward around the world? How do you imagine they pull this off?

[Roundybout]

8 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

Russia is prepared to move forward around the world. 

Conflict is about to happen in many theaters. 

The big question is...what side will trump place the US on. 

Not Russia, but China absolutely 

[Niagara Bill]

22 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Russia cannot get out of their own way as it relates to Ukraine and they are going to move forward around the world? How do you imagine they pull this off?

This is not about armies it is about weapons.

 

[TH3]

8 hours ago, nedboy7 said:

The Biden Derangement crew at work again.  I can’t remember how many Trumpers told me we would have no wars under Trump.  He can’t end the one I was told would end 5 months ago and we won’t have 4 years of peace.  

Yup...magadon tore up JCPOA in 2018 as soon as he could...because he is the deal maker😄

 

He also torpedoed the PPP...which would have leveraged control over China trade...because...he could do better...😀

 

Now here we are...his minions blame everyone else and the rest us and the world knows he is a freaking fake....

 

But meanwhile down at Home Depot in LA...

 

dt only picks fights on the littles 

 

Did Kristi post another photo op yet?

 

8 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Iran's people live under a regime that commits unspeakable atrocities. A large part of Iranian people love the US and many come here and live in Southern California area (LEGALLY) I don't think I have met any short of an MBA. Very intelligent, hard working, friendly people. They just want to be able visit home at some point without fear of retribution for coming here. Obviously Iran is neighbors with Israel and Iranl has been threatening nuclear action for a long time.

 

Trump has shown a strong focus on trying to negotiate with Iran and I think that scares Israel as they ultimately don't trust Iran's regime to ever hold up to an agreement. Israel would rather handle this with military intervention and remove the regime as that is really the only way to long term peace. That is also what the majority of the Iranian people want. But we will see further talks between the US and Iran Sunday, so it's just an interesting and complicated situation. I think Trump really wants to cut a deal as conflict in that region isn't what he wants to see. Israel doesn't want him to cut a deal because if he does they likely won't have the freedom to use force as we saw today.  But Israel also can't stand in the way of a deal or sabotage it with it's relationship with the US. Most of these views are from a few Iranians I spoke with today regarding the bombing with family in Iran. So I trust these view points.   

 

     

Show me one international deal not involving a plane or a golf course that dt has put together in his 4.5 years

[BillsFanNC]

 

[yall]

9 minutes ago, TH3 said:

Yup...magadon tore up JCPOA in 2018 as soon as he could...because he is the deal maker😄

 

He also torpedoed the PPP...which would have leveraged control over China trade...because...he could do better...😀

 

Now here we are...his minions blame everyone else and the rest us and the world knows he is a freaking fake....

 

But meanwhile down at Home Depot in LA...

 

dt only picks fights on the littles 

 

Did Kristi post another photo op yet?

 

Show me one international deal not involving a plane or a golf course that dt has put together in his 4.5 years

The deal with Iran made zero sense given that they have never intended to acquiesce on their goal of obtaining nuclear weapons.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Do leftists never tire of own goal self owns?

 

I recall India and Pakistan on the brink of nuclear war recently. And then the orange menace got involved.

[sherpa]

All the usual blaming of various US administrations in this thread, but that doesn't address the reality.

Iran is run by an individual who thinks he has a God given mission to destroy Israel.

That is that group's raison d'etre.

 

It's been that way for decades, just as the Iranian nuclear weapons program has been going on for that long.

There is no chance any US president was going to stop it unless by force, which is not a pleasant option, or by regime change brought on by internal force.

 

That is the reality, and anyone who has looked at their program for years would know that.

How they built their facilities, where they put them, how they spread them out etc.

 

Fortunately, the Iranian air defense system has been denigrated to the point of ensuring strike success against various sites, but the thought that Iran was suddenly going to stop is pure folly.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[TH3]

10 minutes ago, yall said:

The deal with Iran made zero sense given that they have never intended to acquiesce on their goal of obtaining nuclear weapons.

 

 

dt had 4 years to do better…and he did not

 

Again. Name one international deal not involving grift that dt has assembled…

[SectionC3]

10 hours ago, stevestojan said:

Damn. Down 738 as of 7:49 PT. 
 

This is awful for everyone. But again, we have unwavering support for Israel simply because they’re surrounded by bad countries? Since when did that matter to anyone - and certainly not Trump; not saying this is his fault. Just saying maybe it’s time to rethink our friend group as a country.  
 

Let’s see how many of those precision strikes they pull off without US weapons and $. 

 

Doesn’t take a genius to see how Iran blames the US for fortifying Israel like this and some whacko extremist hits something here at home. And let’s stop looking at Israel like some group of choir boys. The response to Palestine’s attack was justified; at first. But at what point does Palestine cry uncle loud  enough? Disproportionate by a factor of 100? 
 

Again, let’s America First this thing and stop supporting Israel. It’s time. If you don’t support Ukraine, why do you support Israel? 
 

 

 

A great question.  I have no idea what the distinction is.  It's both or none, to me.  And, last I checked, Ukraine is not starting preemptive wars.  (Not that I don't understand the Israeli psychology, but the point remains that Ukraine was attacked, and Israel, now, is attacking.)

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[BillsFanNC]

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Hoax

[yall]

19 minutes ago, TH3 said:

dt had 4 years to do better…and he did not

 

Again. Name one international deal not involving grift that dt has assembled

You're missing the point. See sherpa's post as well. 

 

No president was going to get a deal that stopped these Maniacs from trying to get the bomb.

[TH3]

30 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Do leftists never tire of own goal self owns?

 

I recall India and Pakistan on the brink of nuclear war recently. And then the orange menace got involved.

Where exactly is the deal?

 

The U.S. State Departmentupdated its travel advisory, issuing a Level 4 "Do Not Travel" warning for India's Jammu and Kashmir, citing high risks of terrorism and civil unrest.[103] Additionally, the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi confirmed it is closely monitoring the situation and called for the perpetrators to be brought to justice, reaffirming its support for India's counterterrorism efforts.[104][105] On 26 April 2025, President Donald Trump downplayed the diplomatic crisis, stating that the two nations "had that fight for 1,500 years", despite the fact that the Kashmir crisis started in 1947.[106][107] United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio stated that he is closely monitoring the situation after being advised by National Security Advisor of India Ajit Doval via phonecall after Operation Sindoor.[108]

On 10 May, a few days after Vice President JD Vance stated the conflict was "none of our business", President Trump first announced the ceasefire on social media, claiming the US had an active role in mediating the agreement.[109][110] While Pakistan acknowledged American involvement, Indian officials maintained the agreement had been reached directly between the two countries.[111]

[Roundybout]

38 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Do leftists never tire of own goal self owns?

 

I recall India and Pakistan on the brink of nuclear war recently. And then the orange menace got involved.

He didn’t do anything. India said so. 
 

I also remember when he said he would end the Ukraine/Russia war and all we got was angry posting about Putin being a big meanie

[nedboy7]

13 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

He didn’t do anything. India said so. 
 

I also remember when he said he would end the Ukraine/Russia war and all we got was angry posting about Putin being a big meanie

He’s incompetent.  At least he’s balancing the budget.  

[All_Pro_Bills]

55 minutes ago, sherpa said:

All the usual blaming of various US administrations in this thread, but that doesn't address the reality.

Iran is run by an individual who thinks he has a God given mission to destroy Israel.

That is that group's raison d'etre.

 

It's been that way for decades, just as the Iranian nuclear weapons program has been going on for that long.

There is no chance any US president was going to stop it unless by force, which is not a pleasant option, or by regime change brought on by internal force.

 

That is the reality, and anyone who has looked at their program for years would know that.

How they built their facilities, where they put them, how they spread them out etc.

 

Fortunately, the Iranian air defense system has been denigrated to the point of ensuring strike success against various sites, but the thought that Iran was suddenly going to stop is pure folly.

 

 

If Iran is intent on getting nuclear weapons why can't they buy them from say, North Korea or move their research operation to that country? Out of the reach of Israel forces. They're already aligned in the Axis of Evil. What do you think the response options would be to that move? Hypothetically speaking evaluate that option and hypothetical responses please.

Edited 17 hours ago by All_Pro_Bills

[BillsFanNC]

 

[sherpa]

1 hour ago, TH3 said:

dt had 4 years to do better…and he did not

 

 

No US president since 1980 has had the ability to get them to stop.

The regime is intent on completing the program.