Doc Posted yesterday at 06:09 PM Posted yesterday at 06:09 PM 1 hour ago, GaryPinC said: Sure, why aren't they? I don't know but perhaps he doesn't have enough support for doing this in his own party? And that silence speaks loudly to me about what the truth of the situation is. I think there are more issues than "is this a bribe/gift to Trump personally." Like security. Or cost to make it secure.
SCBills Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM Posted yesterday at 07:24 PM On 5/15/2025 at 10:38 AM, Roundybout said: India straight-up said that Trump had no effect on the peace deal. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/india-disputes-trumps-claim-that-u-s-trade-incentives-led-to-ceasefire-with-pakistan That’s just it, I mean aren’t we already working on a new AF1? Why would we dump more money into this to bring it up to military standards?
thenorthremembers Posted yesterday at 07:31 PM Posted yesterday at 07:31 PM 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: She made a lot of peace with White Wine.
Niagara Bill Posted yesterday at 07:48 PM Posted yesterday at 07:48 PM 6 hours ago, Doc said: I would think Pakistan would want the same respect and they praised Trump. Again very odd. Because it's not a personal gift to him. Or at least shouldn't be. Again if he uses it for official business while President and it's retired after that, fine. Doc..$400,000,000 vs a $1400 laptop 8.5b in real estate deals... LIV golf I thought you had principles... 1
ComradeKayAdams Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM On 5/15/2025 at 9:47 AM, SCBills said: Trump is probably the only President I believe can negotiate complex peace deals. Im not sure why those that hate him can’t acknowledge the relative global calm in comparison to other Presidents that we had under Trump 45. Russia invaded Ukraine before and after him.. not really during his tenure. He negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which Biden mangled in the execution of.. he killed terror leaders without much retaliation and his admin negotiated the Abraham Accords, which will likely be expanded upon during 47. India/Pakistan was about to pop off.. until it didn’t. Id honestly be surprised if he doesn’t negotiate a new Iran deal and the end of the Ukraine/Russia war in the next year or two. That “global calm” you speak of is always a mirage, thanks to a corporate American media that rarely covers the asymmetrical power imposition of American imperialism. In other words: we rarely hear much about the collateral damage from U.S. drone strikes, the consequences of our sanctions and embargos on the citizens of other nations, and the attempted coups and regime changes throughout regions like the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and Latin America. That concludes my general foreign policy diatribe…now getting back specifically to Trump… It’s kinda weird to give Trump credit for both the 2014 Crimea invasion and Russia’s 2022 Ukraine invasion not happening on his watch. The implication here is that Democrats are super weak, but Trump is super strong and super intimidating. If that’s the case, why is the Ukraine war still ongoing? Why do all leaked negotiation details tell of Ukraine’s significant resource concessions to the U.S., while the aggressor (Russia) is being asked to give up so little in terms of war reparations and conquered land?? Trump had FOUR whole years to withdraw from Afghanistan, but he didn’t because he has always been a puppet of the MIC. Trump had absolutely nothing to do with India/Pakistan. The chances of Trump successfully negotiating with Iran are extremely low. He was the one who pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018, so I doubt Iran has any remaining trust in him or in the United States (and we can’t blame them for that distrust). Israel/Palestine/Gaza…where to begin?! This is the mother of all complex peace deals, and the only realistic path to enduring success is with either a one-state or two-state solution (or three-state, if Gaza and the West Bank were to become separate nations). Israel, which has grown to become an extremely far-right society since the Second Intifada, is unfortunately steeped in genocidal mania right now. Only the U.S. can rein them in, but Trump is completely controlled by AIPAC and Zionist donors like Miriam Adelson. He continues speaking fondly of Gaza’s ethnic cleansing, continues ignoring the Leahy Laws by regularly sending munitions to the IDF, continues condoning settler violence in the West Bank, and continues doing absolutely nothing to stop the ongoing Gaza hunger crisis. Trump, in fact, did a lot during his first term that motivated the Hamas attack on 10/7/23: recognizing the annexation of the Golan Heights, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and disrespecting Palestine via exclusion in the Abraham Accords. Trump COULD radically change course, I suppose, if he cares about not destroying his presidential legacy… And I didn’t even get into the topic of Yemen…ugh… Anyone who is a student of pro football history, by the way, already knew that Donald Trump was a total fraud. See: history of the 1983-85 USFL. There’s even an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary about it: “Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?”
Roundybout Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 17 hours ago, SCBills said: Call me skeptical on this one. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/08/jd-vance-india-pakistan
GaryPinC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 23 hours ago, Doc said: I think there are more issues than "is this a bribe/gift to Trump personally." Like security. Or cost to make it secure. You're right, and they all seem equally important. The bribe/gift is the only one spelled out in the constitution though. Repubs certainly can vote based on security and costs though.
Doc Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 minutes ago, GaryPinC said: You're right, and they all seem equally important. The bribe/gift is the only one spelled out in the constitution though. Repubs certainly can vote based on security and costs though. The Constitution talks about personal gifts. Not gifts to the US.
GaryPinC Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Doc said: The Constitution talks about personal gifts. Not gifts to the US. Congress has to approve/recognize it as an acceptable gift to the US.
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