Is there an NFL team with a weaker WR group than the Bills?

[Avisan]

19 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

The forgotten outcome of that thread is that after week 5 just about every person on this board, including the person who started that thread, agreed that adding a WR was a necessary move. Beane himself has defend the Cooper trade by pointing out our offense scored 7 more PPG with him in the lineup. They are hoping that Palmer can replace or improve on what Cooper brought to the offense and that Coleman takes a big step forward in his development.

The actual forgotten outcome of that thread is the Bills were, again, offensive juggernauts that did not, in fact, struggle to win more than six games, and that Amari Cooper was a meaningful contributor for exactly two games last season.

 

MVS had an objectively better season for New Orleans in the same role that Cooper did, and it is hard to argue that Cooper offered something MVS did not.  Cooper did not save our offense any more than keeping MVS would have.  Obviously we all had high hopes for Cooper, but what he actually delivered wasn't particularly impactful.

[Motorin']

On 4/30/2025 at 9:50 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

In this century the average defensive rank of teams that won the SB is about 8th.   

 

So that's what championship caliber looks like.

 

The Bills have had better than "championship caliber" defense's more often than not in Josh Allen's playoff career.   

 

But no matter their rank and skill level on D the McDefense's have always played badly in the end on defense.

 

And Josh Allen's offense's have failed in the clutch with the ball in his hands and a chance to win the game first against Houston and now two consecutive years against KC and they also had horrific performances in defeat in between against KC(2020) and Cinci(2022).    

 

Josh Allen only finished strong in 1 of his 6 playoff defeats(13 seconds) but for some reason we give his offense a pass despite not getting it done in the clutch.  

 

 I say "his" offense because, like McD on D, Allen is the constant on offense.      

 

Organizationally they play poorly in the playoffs.   They gotta' get better on BOTH sides of the ball in the playoffs.

 

 

A lot of truth here. I'll add that having a mid-season funk nearly every year while dropping games against inferior teams, causing the Bills to miss out on the 1 seed is something an elite QB like Josh Allen shouldn't be doing either. 

 

And losing out on the bye and having to play Wild Card weekend every year is another reason they haven't reached a Super Bowl... Regularly capturing the #1 seed needs to be the main focus of the regular season, which means learning to win the stupid mid-season games against teams like Jacksonville, no matter what and no excuses. 

[GASabresIUFan]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/buffalo-bills/news/buffalo-bills-wide-receivers-warned-about-big-changes-cuts-coming-curtis-samuel-elijah-moore-nfl/c69d982f740194371679eca2
 

Article basically says the additions of Moore and Prather make Samuel’s roster spot vulnerable.  Nice theory but Samuel has a cap hit of $9 mill, but a dead cap of 12.  I’m not sure this exactly helps the Bills to cut Samuel during camp.

 

I do see the similarities in the games of Moore and Samuel, and do agree that we probably don’t need both.  However, cutting Samuel does more cap damage than good.  Maybe it’s up to Brady to find good uses for his players.

 

Entering the season, the Bills top 3 WRs are Shakir, Coleman and Palmer.  The Bills have kept 5 the last 2 years, but have kept as many as 7 recently.  This leaves Moore, Samuel, Shavers, Shenault, and Prather competing for 2 or 3 slots.  I doubt we carry 7, but I think 6 is probable, especially if they move on from Codrington as a kick returner.

 

All that said, I never understood the Samuel signing last year.  His experience with Brady not withstanding, he brought a skill set we didn’t need since we had Shakir.  I don’t understand the Moore signing either, as he also is an inside receiver.  Although Samuel and Moore are track fast, neither has ever been used as a deep threat.  Unless Brady begins to utilize them as deep threats, both are wasted signings other than injury insurance for Shakir.