The Worthy Trade Keeps Looking Worse and Worse

[LeviF]

All this bitching and moaning about Worthy being as bad as Coleman (he's not) is just sophistry designed to distract the entire world from one simple fact: Mahomes is not playing well this year.

 

Josh is a bit up and down but Bills fans have way more to complain about with Coleman because 1. the plan was for him to be our best WR and he's not, even though the entire room is stocked with JAGs and 2. Josh, while a bit up and down, is having a slightly better year than Mahomes in spite of having lesser talent at the WR position.

[JP51]

2 minutes ago, LeviF said:

All this bitching and moaning about Worthy being as bad as Coleman (he's not) is just sophistry designed to distract the entire world from one simple fact: Mahomes is not playing well this year.

 

Josh is a bit up and down but Bills fans have way more to complain about with Coleman because 1. the plan was for him to be our best WR and he's not, even though the entire room is stocked with JAGs and 2. Josh, while a bit up and down, is having a slightly better year than Mahomes in spite of having lesser talent at the WR position.

Yeah, Worthy isnt Tyreek, but he is serviceable and makes you account for him...  Coleman... they could care less... they cover him with a LB... they are fine... there is really no specific attention paid to Coleman on the other teams defense... 

[Mod_Squad_Reject]

14 minutes ago, SCBills said:

They’re both not good, but I’d take Worthy over Coleman 10/10 times. 

Based on what was possible at the time I’d take neither. I would have rather had McConkey at least he’s a dependable WR2/3; Coleman was a lower-volume, with possible higher upside WR3/4 that hasn’t materialized.  Worthy is really just a faster gadget guy and about as productive as Coleman and that’s with Mahomes & Andy at KC. If he’s not cutting it there, you think he’s producing here?🙄

Edited 6 hours ago by Mod_Squad_Reject

[Sweats]

Although Worthy doesn't seem to be moving the needle or in line for any awards right now, at least teams have to game plan for him........no one's game planning for Coleman, i assure you that.

[Mod_Squad_Reject]

1 minute ago, Sweats said:

Although Worthy doesn't seem to be moving the needle or in line for any awards right now, at least teams have to game plan for him........no one's game planning for Coleman, i assure you that.

Who is losing sleep over Worthy and scheming to stop him , he’s irrelevant at KC. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Mod_Squad_Reject

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

23 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Worthy

38 receptions/1 TD

 

Coleman

36 receptions/4 TD's.

 

Coleman was benched for two games and pretty much like 6th on our depth chart for targets right now.

 

Maaannnnn, Worthy is having a bad season.

[BillsfaninSB]

On 10/13/2025 at 10:53 AM, Virgil said:

At this point, I'm more upset we didn't draft Cooper DeJean over Coleman.  I was on the WR train with everyone else in that draft, but DeJean really called to me and I wish we had drafted him.  

100% agree.  I was thinking at the time it might happen and I would’ve been happy with that.

 

I have been more of a draft a position of need over best athlete available person.  But with the Ford, Basham, Elam pick and now Coleman,  I’m over that. 
 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by BillsfaninSB

[Sweats]

5 minutes ago, Mod_Squad_Reject said:

Who is losing sleep over Worthy and scheming to stop him , he’s irrelevant at KC. 

 

 

 

Did i say teams were losing sleep and scheming to stop Worthy?!?........i said they have to at least somewhat game plan for him.

 

Try and keep up, son.

[Cotton Fitzsimmons]

21 minutes ago, LeviF said:

All this bitching and moaning about Worthy being as bad as Coleman (he's not) is just sophistry designed to distract the entire world from one simple fact: Mahomes is not playing well this year.

 

Josh is a bit up and down but Bills fans have way more to complain about with Coleman because 1. the plan was for him to be our best WR and he's not, even though the entire room is stocked with JAGs and 2. Josh, while a bit up and down, is having a slightly better year than Mahomes in spite of having lesser talent at the WR position.

Agree that Mahomes isn’t playing well. If you look at his production over the last 3 seasons it’s really fallen off from where he was earlier in his career. The Chiefs kept winning so it was overshadowed somewhat, but clearly the loss of prime Tyreek Hill and Kelce has made him less effective. It’ll be interesting to see where his career trajectory ends up post Andy Reid as well, assuming he also retires in the next couple of years.

[Rocbillsfan1]

The whole worthy debate is hilarious. It literally didn’t matter at all. The only thing that mattered was not drafting McConkey or trading up for BT jr. 

[Mod_Squad_Reject]

1 hour ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Did i say teams were losing sleep and scheming to stop Worthy?!?........i said they have to at least somewhat game plan for him.

 

Try and keep up, son.

Lmao no one is planning for Worthy, wake up son. False narrative, Worthy no more valuable than Coleman.  They both are non factors.

 

This is completely irrelevant and stupid topic and argument.  Like I said above Ladd McConkey was probably the guy around this position in the draft everything else is board forum fodder.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Mod_Squad_Reject

[Royale with Cheese]

16 minutes ago, Sweats said:

 

 

 

Did i say teams were losing sleep and scheming to stop Worthy?!?........i said they have to at least somewhat game plan for him.

 

Try and keep up, son.

 

Well the game plan seems to be pretty easy.  

[LeviF]

6 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said:

Agree that Mahomes isn’t playing well. If you look at his production over the last 3 seasons it’s really fallen off from where he was earlier in his career. The Chiefs kept winning so it was overshadowed somewhat, but clearly the loss of prime Tyreek Hill and Kelce has made him less effective. It’ll be interesting to see where his career trajectory ends up post Andy Reid as well, assuming he also retires in the next couple of years.

 

Someone put up Mahomes vs. Brady first five seasons (advantage Mahomes), then the next three (advantage Brady). I did notice how Mahomes' (relative) fall and Brady's rise coincided with the departure and arrival of elite WR talent, respectively.

[Ga boy]

4 minutes ago, Mod_Squad_Reject said:

Lmao no one is planning for Worthy, wake up son. False narrative, Worthy no more valuable than Coleman.  They both are non factors.

 

This is completely irrelevant and stupid topic and argument.  Like I said above Ladd McConkey was probably the guy around this position in the draft everything else is form fodder.

 

One of those talking heads at the time said both were selected a little early, but both would’ve gone to somebody in the 2nd round.  The problem with Coleman is that our scouts overlooked the immaturity issue.  Because he can dunk and finger roll a basketball and can showboat on the court, he thinks he is already the best athlete on the team.  I’m still pulling for Keon.

[finn]

56 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Josh is a bit up and down but Bills fans have way more to complain about with Coleman because 1. the plan was for him to be our best WR and he's not, even though the entire room is stocked with JAGs and 2. Josh, while a bit up and down, is having a slightly better year than Mahomes in spite of having lesser talent at the WR position.

"Slightly better"? Allen is one of the top three candidates for MVP despite playing with the worst receiver room in the league and having Brady in his headset, while Mahomes has a good to very good set of receivers and a HOF playcaller. Allen has by no means been perfect, but he keeps racking up the game-changing plays. I doubt there's a team in the league that wouldn't take him over Mahomes, who doesn't seem like the same player he was two years ago. 

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

Game planning against Coleman is difficult because they have to free up   1T to deal with his speed 🤪

[bills_fan]

One point I have noticed watching many KC games this year...their WR drop many more passes (seemingly, I have not done research) than ours do.  For the MOST part, our guys are pretty sure handed.  Their guys have some big drops on well placed balls by Mahomes.  I think Mahomes stats would look much better if they could actually catch most of the balls thrown their way.

 

The drops prob costs them at least one and prob 2 games this year.

[uninja]

1 hour ago, JP51 said:

Yeah, Worthy isnt Tyreek, but he is serviceable and makes you account for him...  Coleman... they could care less... they cover him with a LB... they are fine... there is really no specific attention paid to Coleman on the other teams defense... 

 

I feel like Coleman only runs two routes, a go route down the sideline or a shallow inside crossing route and it's pretty obvious which one it's going to be before the snap depending on down/distance. I feel like the org doesn't trust Coleman with a complete route tree.

[Slippery Rubber Mats]

idk at this moment seems like Worthy and Coleman both suck and all you boys cried for nothing

[LeviF]

26 minutes ago, finn said:

"Slightly better"? Allen is one of the top three candidates for MVP despite playing with the worst receiver room in the league and having Brady in his headset, while Mahomes has a good to very good set of receivers and a HOF playcaller. Allen has by no means been perfect, but he keeps racking up the game-changing plays. I doubt there's a team in the league that wouldn't take him over Mahomes, who doesn't seem like the same player he was two years ago. 

 

That's fine, and generally I agree with you, but the raw numbers (aside from rush TDs) are closer than the eye test would have us believe this year. Trying to keep it a little objective is all.

 

Advanced stats show a clearly better season by Josh but counting numbers are what most people see and understand.