Mike Davis' Factual Legal Analyses

[BillsFanNC]

Fact and legal check: True

 

January 6th was a lawful protest, permitted by the National Park Service, that devolved into a riot.

 

There are 3 categories of protesters, including those who:

 

1. Follow the rules, even if you think they’re wrong or even crazy = protected.

 

2. Trespass = charged.

 

3. Violent = treated more severely.

 

But we can’t have different rules, based upon political views, like Biden does for his base of BLM, antifa, Hamas, trans, and abortion terrorists.

 

It is unforgivable Biden, his Justice
Department, hyper-partisan Democrat judges, and incredibly weak and dumb Republican judges maliciously misapplied our federal laws to destroy political enemies.

January 6th defendants, their families, and their attorneys owe a special thanks to @julie_kelly2.

There is no chance in hell the Supreme Court would have taken the Fischer case, but for Julie’s dogged reporting for years exposing this grave injustice—which changed the politics of these January 6th persecutions.

 

Many criminal convictions will almost certainly get tossed after the Supreme Court rules before the end of June.

 

Julie is the driving force.

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

Presidential Records Act v. Espionage Act:

 

The Presidential Records Act of 1978 (PRA), 44 U.S.C. §§ 2201 through 2209, generally controls the handling of the President's records.

Generally, records created or received by the President or this White House staff are presidential records.

 

This includes classified records sent to advise the President or his White House staff.

 

Before the Presidential Records Act, Presidents owned their presidential records.

 

Congress changed the law after Nixon won a legal fight on this issue.

After the Presidential Records Act, the U.S. government owns Presidents' presidential records.

 

Per the 2012 Obama judge ruling in the Clinton sock-drawer case, where President Clinton stuffed 8 years of highly classified audio recordings of his presidency in his sock drawer (see picture 1 below), the President solely decides what are:

 

- "personal" (belong to him)

v.

- "presidential records" (belong to government).

And if the President doesn't designate them as presidential records and then takes them when he leaves office, they are deemed personal records.

(Read news story and linked opinion here: justthenews.com/politics-polic…)

 

But even if people think this 2012 Obama judge ruling protecting Clinton is incorrect or Trump (somehow) shouldn't have the benefit of this ruling (because they hate and fear Trump):

 

"[T]he Presidential records of a former President shall be available to such former President or the former President's designated representative."

44 U.S.C. § 2205(3) (see picture 2 below).

 

Former Presidents do not have the right to have any classified record they want.

 

But they have the absolute statutory right to have (not own) their presidential records, classified or not.

 

There is no criminal component to the Presidential Records Act.

 

Disputes are settled with negotiations and civil lawsuits.

 

Not unprecedented and unlawful raid and indictments.

 

How can Trump violate the Espionage Act for retaining his presidential records he is allowed to have (not own) under the Presidential Records Act?

 

Garland must allege and prove more than mere retention, in order to charge a former president for espionage for having his presidential records he's allowed to have (not own) under the Presidential Records Act.

 

One way a court may attempt to harmonize the Presidential Records Act with the Espionage Act is requiring the government to allege and prove the former President intended to cause "injury to the United States or aid to a foreign nation result from the disclosures." United States v. Rosen, 520 F. Supp. 2d 786, 793 (E.D. Va. 2007).

There is zero evidence--not even an allegation--Trump intended to harm America by retaining his presidential records.

 

It is not a crime to be a jerk.

 

It is not "espionage" to fight with librarians and other bureaucrats.

 

We do not send former presidents, who happen to be your boss's chief political enemy, to die in prison over presidential-records disputes.

 

This is one key reason Garland's indictment of Trump is fatally flawed as a matter of law.

 

 

[BillStime]

13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

January 6th was a lawful protest, permitted by the National Park Service, that devolved into a riot.

Hoax

 

Group that planned Jan. 6 rally lied about Capitol march plans, government report says

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True

 

 

[BillStime]

SOROS FUNDED DA’s‼️‼️‼️

 

Don’t you love how these MAGGOTS always blame a Jew for all their problems?

 

Fkn Nazis 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True

 

 

[BringMetheHeadofLeonLett]

"January 6th was a lawful protest"

You've got to be ***** kidding me, not just that someone brain-farted that onto a page, but that someone read it and thought, 'yeah, I agree'. 
 

 

I don't know you, but apparently that someone is... you. 
 

Good luck in life, but not on my dime. 

 

and I love the opening bit about blaming the National Parks Service...

 

I mean how little thought and accountability can Mike Davis and his chum have in life?

[Doc]

2 hours ago, BringMetheHeadofLeonLett said:

"January 6th was a lawful protest"

You've got to be ***** kidding me, not just that someone brain-farted that onto a page, but that someone read it and thought, 'yeah, I agree'. 
 

 

I don't know you, but apparently that someone is... you. 
 

Good luck in life, but not on my dime. 

 

and I love the opening bit about blaming the National Parks Service...

 

I mean how little thought and accountability can Mike Davis and his chum have in life?

 

You really don't know what the bolded was trying to say?

[BillsFanNC]

41 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

You really don't know what the bolded was trying to say?

 

No it doesn't.

 

It dutifully skipped the part that J6 was permitted and sanctioned to occur on Capitol grounds just like any other protest.

 

You know that pesky 1st ammendment and all.

 

or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

Again for the useful idiots who will point out "peaceably," that of course is what parts 2 and 3 of Davis' post addresses. Those who either trespassed or were violent should be APPROPRIATELY charged. Those who remained peaceful are PROTECTED.

 

This is why you morons are commies.

Edited March 25 by BillsFanNC

[BillStime]

38 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

It dutifully skipped the part that J6 was permitted and sanctioned to occur on Capitol grounds just like any other protest.

 

Hoax

 

Why do you lie all the time?

'Basically she lied to all of us'

 

The report found that the organizers from Women for America First failed to provide information about Trump's likely attendance at the rally and that they actively concealed information about the plans to follow the event with a march to the Capitol.

 

Karen's gonna psyop as usual.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True

 

Link to permit issued by the NATIONAL PARK SERVICE below. 

 

 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

Fact check: True

 

Link to permit issued by the NATIONAL PARK SERVICE below. 

 

 

 

Fact Check: FALSE

 

From Mike's NPS link above: 

 

This permit authorizes the use of the Ellipse southwest quadrant, west of the vista site line and south of the tree lighting site starting on Saturday, January 2 at 6:30 am until Wednesday, January 8, 2021 at 7:30 pm. This permit does not authorize a march from the Ellipse.

 

 

And from the Department of the Interior:

 

Review of the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Actions Related to January 6, 2021

In addition, we found WFAF intentionally failed to disclose information to the NPS regarding its knowledge of a post-demonstration march.

 

Karen, you try so hard.

 

lmao

 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

Fact check: True

 

Link to permit issued by the NATIONAL PARK SERVICE below. 

 

 

The mob wants it's pound of flesh.  And that's all that matters. 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

The mob wants it's pound of flesh.  And that's all that matters. 

 

Hoax - we demand the TRUTH - you freaks play with fkn psyops.

 

 

 

 

 

[njbuff]

35 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Hoax - we demand the TRUTH - you freaks play with fkn psyops.

 

 

 

 

 

You want the truth?

 

Then tell me why Pelosi and the DC mayor REFUSED Trump’s offer for 10,000 National Guard troops 2 days before January 6th?

 

This is NOT a right wing lie (as you would put it). It’s well documented about Trump’s offer.

 

The refusal of the troops is all I need to know about what BVLLSHIT January 6th was.

[BillStime]

11 minutes ago, njbuff said:

You want the truth?

 

Then tell me why Pelosi and the DC mayor REFUSED Trump’s offer for 10,000 National Guard troops 2 days before January 6th?

 

This is NOT a right wing lie (as you would put it). It’s well documented about Trump’s offer.

 

The refusal of the troops is all I need to know about what BVLLSHIT January 6th was.

 

Hoax - where is the exact order from Trump? It seems you would have this documentation handy, but no one has ever shared it.

 

Why is Mitch McConnell never mentioned? If Pelosi "allegedly" had the right to accept Trump's offer (which she doesn't, as she is not in the chain of command), why is the focus only on Pelosi? It's amusing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[wnyguy]

1 minute ago, BillStime said:

 

Hoax - where is the exact order from Trump? It seems you would have this documentation handy, but no one has ever shared it.

 

Why is Mitch McConnell never mentioned? If Pelosi "allegedly" had the right to accept Trump's offer (which she doesn't, as she is not in the chain of command), why is the focus only on Pelosi? It's amusing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Face it Billsy, your narrative has hit a snag. What will you do now?

[BillStime]

2 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Face it Billsy, your narrative has hit a snag. What will you do now?

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

This has all been gone over dozens of times already, so useful idiots will always parrot their masters narrative no matter what.  Yuri Bezmenov, ideological subversion and all that....

 

But here is Kash Patel's testimony to J6 committee.  Lying to Congress, at least for conservatives, is no small matter these days.  How come Kash got away with "lying" to Congress Billsfuk.c?

 

https://archive.org/details/january-6th-committee-witness-testimony-20211209-kashyap-pramod-patel/page/38/mode/2up?q=guard

 

Oh, so you remember stuff like that. So, going off just the memory, and we can go back to the article when you bring it up, there was a meeting with the President of the United States, Acting Secretary Miller, and some others -- | can't recall off the top of my head -- where we were discussing, as the article states, something related to Iran.

And, in that same meeting, | believe it was on or around January 4th, 3rd, 4th, or 5th, the -- as | stated earlier, in order for the Department of Defense's National Guard to be activated in any way we needed Presidential authorization. And President Trump at that --

[Discussion off the record.]

BY

Q Sure. Go ahead.

 

A Okay. And so this question appears to implicate core executive privilege concerns. I'm prepared to answer it, but | want the record to reflect my serious concerns about congressional overreaching of this matter.

So what | remember is that we knew, in order to get the National Guard even mobilized, we needed the President to at least say yes first. So what -- my recollection of that meeting is the President preemptively authorized 10 to 20 National Guardsmen and -women around the country -- sorry? 10- to 20,000.

 

Mr. Sofer. You said 10 to 20.

 

The Witness. Sorry, 10- to 20,000 National Guardsmen and -women to be

utilized around the country. The second part of that, of course, would have to be the 

Governors, the Federal agencies, and the mayors would have to ask us for that to satisfy the law.

But what he, | believe, and the Acting Secretary at the time were working out was we would not need to come back to the President should Mayor Bowser or anyone ask for 100, a thousand, 5,000, up to 20,000.

 

 

Here's the memo where Mayor Bowser refused NG dated 1/5/21 and the memo outing multiple denials from Capitol police.

 

The Capitol Police official timeline provides the most succinct summary of a series of events around Sund's request, some of which have been disputed and at times misreported in the news media.

 

"COP Sund asks Senate Sergeant at Arms (SSAA) Michael Stenger and House Sergeant at Arms (HSAA) Paul Irving for authority to have National Guard to assist with security for the January 6, 2021 event based on briefing with law enforcement partner and revised intelligence Assessment," the timeline recorded. "COP Sund's request is denied. SSAA and HSAA tell COP Sund to contact General Walker at DC National Guard to discuss the guard's ability to support a request if needed."

 

 

[The Frankish Reich]

Immune to parody:

In the Chicago thread, a poster points out the absurdity of the City of Chicago suing Hyundai and Kia for making cars easier to steal, leading to destruction.

In this thread, the same poster says "but you didn't deploy the National Guard to stop me from breaking the law! How can you blame me?"

[BillsFanNC]

⬆️ 

 

Finding Q must have confused my direct question to Billsfuk.c as a question to it I'm guessing?

 

 

Don't care what either of the blob acolytes has to say.

[Doc]

59 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Immune to parody:

In the Chicago thread, a poster points out the absurdity of the City of Chicago suing Hyundai and Kia for making cars easier to steal, leading to destruction.

In this thread, the same poster says "but you didn't deploy the National Guard to stop me from breaking the law! How can you blame me?"

 

If you're an owner of said car and park it in a bad neighborhood/area, it's on you to prevent its theft.  The same goes for securing an area that would be hosting what they knew would be a large and rowdy crowd.

[BillsFanNC]

FuQ with a ridiculous apples to oranges comparison to try to make a hand waving trash lawyer point?

 

How refreshing!

 

Next it will try to make the measles vs. covid vaccine apples to asteroids comparison again.

 

Keep digging FuQ.

 

😂

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

But here is Kash Patel's testimony to J6 committee.  Lying to Congress, at least for conservatives, is no small matter these days.  How come Kash got away with "lying" to Congress Billsfuk.c?

 

Oh, Karen you try so HARD to keep your psyops alive - lmao

 

So, we have Kash telling us one thing and blaming the DC Mayor (who yes, did request National Guard troops on Jan 4) and Secretary Christopher Miller telling the same committee something else.

 

“President Trump had authority and responsibility to direct deployment of the National Guard in the District of Columbia, but never gave any order to deploy the National Guard on January 6th or on any other day,” the Pentagon report reads. “Nor did he instruct any Federal law enforcement agency to assist.”

 

 

 

 

 

And for perspective and credibility, how could we forget that the same infamous KASH PATEL was paying for Gym Jordan's whistleblowers?

 

 

 

 

 

 

And then... when you think you need to add more creditability to your psyop - you decide to share this gem from John Solomon?

 

3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

 

The SAME John Solomon who met with Rudy and other MAGA nut jobs who were planning January 6 and how to leverage Sean Hannity and Fox News to push out more propaganda?

 

 

You know - this John Solomon?

 

 

 

GTFOH

 

lmao

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

No Mike, those lawyers were trying to SAVE DEMOCRACY by removing the option for citizens to vote for the opposition frontrunner. 

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[BillStime]

viceroy - fkn Nazi 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

 

 

[T master]

On 3/25/2024 at 11:03 AM, BillStime said:

 

Hoax - we demand the TRUTH - you freaks play with fkn psyops.

 

 

 

 

 

 

To me if you take the capital building out of the mix this just looks like another peaceful protest like the ones that happened in Portland, Seattle, Nashville, & the many other cities around the country right ? 

 

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

19 minutes ago, T master said:

 

To me if you take the capital building out of the mix this just looks like another peaceful protest like the ones that happened in Portland, Seattle, Nashville, & the many other cities around the country right ? 

 

 

I'm not sure if the Capitol, being the seat of the legislature in Washington DC, is granted specific protections higher than other Federal facilities but if that's not the case then under the law an attack on the Capitol is no more of a "crime" than an attack on say, the Federal Courthouse in Portland that was attacked every night for a couple months.  Did I miss the House Committer investigation with Schiff and Chaney on the riots and looting during the Summer of 2020?  Who was behind them, who funded them, who should be held accountable?  In what Federal facility all the Antifa and BLM members doing time for firebombing the building and attacking Federal officers, looting business and injuring citizens in various cities across the country?   Anybody?

 

 

 

 

Edited March 29 by All_Pro_Bills

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, T master said:

 

To me if you take the capital building out of the mix this just looks like another peaceful protest like the ones that happened in Portland, Seattle, Nashville, & the many other cities around the country right ? 

 

 

 

It seems you're fond of comparing dissimilar events. The George Floyd protests weren't related to the peaceful transfer of power. 

 

Now, let's not overlook the multi-faceted strategy employed to challenge the election results:

• The Big Lie
• Post-election litigation aimed at sowing doubt about fraud, despite losing almost all cases
• Efforts to prevent certification 
• Attempts to create and submit FAKE electors
• Stealing voting machine data 
• The bid to use the Justice Department as a tool - Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen
• Pressure on the Vice President - Mike, this is a political career killer if you do this
• The drive to mobilize public pressure, which unfortunately led to violence
• Attempts to involve the national security establishment:
• 

 

2 hours ago, T master said:

right ?

 

Nope.

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

🎯 

 

 

[BillStime]

👆🤡👇

 

[BillStime]

Hey Karen - what did Mikey have to say about the Trump supporter and Russian private investigator, who killed Judge Esther Salas’ son and injured her husband?

 

[Tommy Callahan]

^^^^^^^^^^^  the cult does not live or deal in reality.

 

 

[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

^^^^^^^^^^^  the cult does not live or deal in reality.

 

 

 

Look in the f'n mirror - jfc.

 

 

[T master]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

It seems you're fond of comparing dissimilar events. The George Floyd protests weren't related to the peaceful transfer of power. 

 

Now, let's not overlook the multi-faceted strategy employed to challenge the election results:

• The Big Lie
• Post-election litigation aimed at sowing doubt about fraud, despite losing almost all cases
• Efforts to prevent certification 
• Attempts to create and submit FAKE electors
• Stealing voting machine data 
• The bid to use the Justice Department as a tool - Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen
• Pressure on the Vice President - Mike, this is a political career killer if you do this
• The drive to mobilize public pressure, which unfortunately led to violence
• Attempts to involve the national security establishment:
• 

 

 

Nope.

 

 

 

I didn't get past the first line because they are the same people that believed they were doing the right thing attacked & torched FEDERAL PROPERTY & broke in to some of them to do what ever damage they could so it is the exact same thing .

 

Riotous people doing what they AS ADULTS of their own free will making a decision to do a unlawful act .

 

As my parents & many others parents use to ask "if so & so jumped off the bridge would you " or "If so & so told me to steal something would you" so no matter what twist ya'll put on this it was INDIVIDUALS that made up their own minds in both situations to commit a crime of either breaking into or defacing & damaging FEDERAL PROPERTY .

 

But asa you do you will continue to blow smoke up as many peoples A** as you think you can make them believe the BS . Because no matter what you have people like this that are made to believe what you would like them too because they can't think for them selves even after they are shown proof .

 

 

[BillStime]

8 minutes ago, T master said:

I didn't get past the first line because they are the same people that believed they were doing the right thing attacked & torched FEDERAL PROPERTY & broke in to some of them to do what ever damage they could so it is the exact same thing .

 

Riotous people doing what they AS ADULTS of their own free will making a decision to do a unlawful act .

 

As my parents & many others parents use to ask "if so & so jumped off the bridge would you " or "If so & so told me to steal something would you" so no matter what twist ya'll put on this it was INDIVIDUALS that made up their own minds in both situations to commit a crime of either breaking into or defacing & damaging FEDERAL PROPERTY .

 

But asa you do you will continue to blow smoke up as many peoples A** as you think you can make them believe the BS . Because no matter what you have people like this that are made to believe what you would like them too because they can't think for them selves even after they are shown proof .

 

 

 

So, you agree that the two are not the same.  Thanks T

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Fact check: True