Niagara Bill Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: I'm not defending anything or anyone, rather pointing out that everything that factors in needs to be considered. Autopac was meant to, and did, favor Canada. Autopac replaced tariffs and moved automobile manufacturing to Canada. To this day, Canada has continued to tariff US goods. It isn't one or the other, it's all of the above. Much has changed in the 60 yrs since autopac. Things are much more nuanced then you are suggesting. What goods are tariffed coming into Canada? Don't say dairy because trump is lying. Tariffs into Canada and US are identical. They kick in at a certain level, which has never been reached, in either country. The Autopac was a balance. To sell into Cansda you had to build...sound familiar. The only nuance, is trump. Mexico took many jobs of both US and Canada. It was money.
Doc Posted March 27 Posted March 27 5 hours ago, SectionC3 said: That’s the best you have? All of that HCQ must have fried your brain worse than I thought. I wasn't sure why you were defending a first-time poster who is calling Josh "average" and his MVP award an "embarrassment." Proving he/she is an idiot.
Niagara Bill Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Trump is dancing around the pile of money US citizens are going to pay. He says 600,000m to 1b.
Buddy Hix Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Threaten to annex your ally using economic force. Institute tariffs by illegally claiming a National Emergency caused by fentanyl which your own data shows is untrue, thereby following through with the economic force threat. All while your ally has been abiding by a free trade agreement that you took credit for creating. Now further threatening an ally because they are forced to accept that they can no longer do business with you because of your tariffs. https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/trump-says-larger-tariffs-could-be-imposed-on-canada-eu-if-they-cause-us-economic-harm/ This is completely unhinged behaviour, and MAGAts just lap it up. The kicker, Trump pushed for removal of sanctions on Russian potash…so he’s openly helping Putin. https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/us-russia-fertilizer-disturbing Wake the ***** up people. 2
Mikie2times Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Andy1 said: There is no logic inside of Trumps brain. He likes tariffs because it’s a power move he can do to make himself feel powerful because he constantly needs to feed his feeble ego. America is not about old school manufacturing relying only upon ourselves for everything we use. America is about creating new technology, industries, stuff in every field that has never been done before. That’s why the best and brightest in the world have always wanted to do their thing here, until now. Funding for research at all levels has been cut. He wants to kill the CHIPS act for microchip manufacturing. Immigrants are not welcomed. Those innovators are now moving to other countries. Trump wants to take America back. The result will be our competitors moving ahead. Excellent post. Couldn't agree more. 1
Albwan Posted March 27 Posted March 27 (edited) This is the new image that pops into my head every time a dumb trump hater posts on this site... You should go get a pillow with Joe Biden on it and bite and cry into it. You will get farther doing that than posting to anyone here. Edited March 27 by Albwan
ScotSHO Posted March 27 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Albwan said: This is the new image that pops into my head every time a dumb trump hater posts on this site... You should go get a pillow with Joe Biden on it and bite and cry into it. You will get farther doing that than posting to anyone here. She's hot.
Doc Brown Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Used cars will at least go up in value? Wish I never voted for the guy and I can't believe he has this much power when it comes to implementing tariffs.
Pokebball Posted March 27 Posted March 27 4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: What goods are tariffed coming into Canada? Don't say dairy because trump is lying. Tariffs into Canada and US are identical. They kick in at a certain level, which has never been reached, in either country. The Autopac was a balance. To sell into Cansda you had to build...sound familiar. The only nuance, is trump. Mexico took many jobs of both US and Canada. It was money. Here's a valuable link to see all of the duties, tarriffs, etc. https://www.crossbordershopping.ca/duty-tax-import-guide/canada-customs-duty-rates-tariffs-and-taxes and yes, autopac was a balance, in canada's favor. I'm not sure how you can argue that???
Roundybout Posted March 27 Posted March 27 43 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Used cars will at least go up in value? Wish I never voted for the guy and I can't believe he has this much power when it comes to implementing tariffs. A good discussion point. The executive office should not have this much power to inflict economic harm without going through Congress.
Doc Brown Posted March 27 Posted March 27 Just now, Roundybout said: A good discussion point. The executive office should not have this much power to inflict economic harm without going through Congress. No. It shouldn't. The same Republicans that rightfully accused Biden of executive overreach in forgiving student loans are now silent because of self preservation. 1 1
Niagara Bill Posted March 27 Posted March 27 48 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Here's a valuable link to see all of the duties, tarriffs, etc. https://www.crossbordershopping.ca/duty-tax-import-guide/canada-customs-duty-rates-tariffs-and-taxes and yes, autopac was a balance, in canada's favor. I'm not sure how you can argue that??? It was not in Canada favor, but was negotiated into NAFTA in the favor of US and Mexico. The US has much higher sales of goods into Canada, which creates US jobs. The balance for Canada is Oil and NG, which creates few jobs and the US needs it. More jobs from Canada went to Mexico than US jobs. It was US companies who set up duty free zones in Mexico. Today trump threatened my country if we try and mitigate the tariffs he placed on us (and more to come in April.) if we get together and expand our business he will punush us. Now that is a trustworthy business man. Now there is a classless #######. So we are suppose to sit here and take his *****. For all I care the US can turn into Cuba and join with his buddy Putin. Canadians will stop buying anything from the US, screw him. Screw your gutless politicians, screw your gutless business leaders.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 27 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Used cars will at least go up in value? Wish I never voted for the guy and I can't believe he has this much power when it comes to implementing tariffs. Used cars will definitely go up. and repairing older cars will be more expensive. I heard an industry analyst saying many middle class people will be priced out of the new car market and that automakers may stop making current sub $30k cars because they'll be out of reach. There is also less profit margin. What a mess.
Roundybout Posted March 28 Posted March 28 I’m crying laughing man. We got Donald “Chairman Mao” Trump in office 1 2
Andy1 Posted March 28 Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: I’m crying laughing man. We got Donald “Chairman Mao” Trump in office So Trump wants tariffs, increasing the cost that all dealers will have to pay, and then he wants them to eat that cost? Of course that cost will be passed on to the buying public! So what do all the republicans who say Biden was a communist have to say about this? In addition, the cost of used cars will rise since more people will be shopping used and there is a massive shortage of good used cars due to supply chain problems after Covid. But that’s not all. The cost to repair our cars will increase as the parts are more expensive due to the Trump tax and the cost to insure our cars will be higher since it will cost more to repair them. We will all get to pay more to Donald while he will give his billionaire buddies tax cuts. 2
Pokebball Posted March 28 Posted March 28 5 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: It was not in Canada favor, but was negotiated into NAFTA in the favor of US and Mexico. The US has much higher sales of goods into Canada, which creates US jobs. The balance for Canada is Oil and NG, which creates few jobs and the US needs it. More jobs from Canada went to Mexico than US jobs. It was US companies who set up duty free zones in Mexico. Today trump threatened my country if we try and mitigate the tariffs he placed on us (and more to come in April.) if we get together and expand our business he will punush us. Now that is a trustworthy business man. Now there is a classless #######. So we are suppose to sit here and take his *****. For all I care the US can turn into Cuba and join with his buddy Putin. Canadians will stop buying anything from the US, screw him. Screw your gutless politicians, screw your gutless business leaders. Wow. First, we aren't talking about NAFTA. Autopac favored Canada and that simply isn't negotiable. NAFTA did shift favor to Mexico from Canada.
Doc Brown Posted March 28 Posted March 28 (edited) 6 hours ago, Roundybout said: I’m crying laughing man. We got Donald “Chairman Mao” Trump in office If they aren't allowed to raise prices but their costs go up the only option they'd have is to lay off workers. Either that or they ignore him and raise prices anyways. Either outcome is not optimal. Doesn't he realize a lot of the parts used by American car companies to make cars are imported from other countries? It will take years to move manufacturing to the US and even then it will be less efficient and cost more. This will jack up car insurance premiums too. Also, if you're the head of these companies how can you plan long term if there's no guarantee that these Tariffs will be permanent? Edited March 28 by Doc Brown 1 1 1
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted March 28 Posted March 28 Fine - who cares in the short-term, but we're supposed to hope in a guy who has failed at everything he's done in life- beyond promoting his 'brand' ... gag, to actually for once in his life... succeed? You gotta be a lunatic. Those foreigners are smarter than him- and it's not even close. Get you heads out of yiur asses, Trump is too ######ed to even be an American Despot. 1
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted March 28 Posted March 28 It's all a joke of incompetence- Putin bed-wetting, 4 Seasons Landscaping, Hegseth, wants to ***** his daughter,,,, Wow, you've picked the 16th place horse in the Kentucky Derby, Past Applicants and Cripples Edition.
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted March 28 Posted March 28 6 hours ago, Andy1 said: So Trump wants tariffs, increasing the cost that all dealers will have to pay, and then he wants them to eat that cost? Of course that cost will be passed on to the buying public! So what do all the republicans who say Biden was a communist have to say about this? In addition, the cost of used cars will rise since more people will be shopping used and there is a massive shortage of good used cars due to supply chain problems after Covid. But that’s not all. The cost to repair our cars will increase as the parts are more expensive due to the Trump tax and the cost to insure our cars will be higher since it will cost more to repair them. We will all get to pay more to Donald while he will give his billionaire buddies tax cuts. Hey Andy, yeah - that's what's gonna happen. You know the one thing they can't take from us is we love our cars. I got a nice old MG, and have serious eyes on an XK I'm seeing recently- long may we run. )
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