Doc Brown Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Third in AFC behind KC and Baltimore. A little surprised we're above the Lions. Here are the top 10 and the rest of the AFC East. Best value? I'm going Packers. San Francisco 49ers +600 Kansas City Chiefs +850 Baltimore Ravens +1000 Buffalo Bills +1200 Cincinnati Bengals +1500 Detroit Lions +1700 Miami Dolphins +2000 Dallas Cowboys +2000 Philadelphia Eagles +2200 Green Bay Packers +2500 New York Jets +3000 New England Patriots +12500 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Red King Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Bills have been annihilated by key injuries the last two seasons. If they find a way to stay reasonably healthy they are a serious threat. The Bills did not lose a single game by more then one score last season. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Third in AFC behind KC and Baltimore. A little surprised we're above the Lions. Here are the top 10 and the rest of the AFC East. Best value? I'm going Packers. San Francisco 49ers +600 Kansas City Chiefs +850 Baltimore Ravens +1000 Buffalo Bills +1200 Cincinnati Bengals +1500 Detroit Lions +1700 Miami Dolphins +2000 Dallas Cowboys +2000 Philadelphia Eagles +2200 Green Bay Packers +2500 New York Jets +3000 New England Patriots +12500 disrespect for the SB Champions !!! 5 minutes ago, The Red King said: Bills have been annihilated by key injuries the last two seasons. If they find a way to stay reasonably healthy they are a serious threat. The Bills did not lose a single game by more then one score last season. That is not tied with the injuries. They can go over the huddle only with better coaches/schemes/execution. The Bills could have gone to the AFCC if they had executed better in the last drive. The Bills could have gone to the AFCC if their defense did not give up TDs on 3 straight possessions after half-time. There is a reason why the Chiefs went on the road and won in Buffalo and Baltimore. They were coached better and executed better. Plus they are NOT afraid to play their young players....and finally they are about 60M under the cap.... The Bills need to cut bait with high prized players as the margin of improvement with them is very small. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 $100 on our boys & Josh winning MVP parlay sounds pretty solid. Agree on the Packers. That’s a reasonable bet I’m probably going to find myself taking also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ganesh said: disrespect for the SB Champions !!! That is not tied with the injuries. They can go over the huddle only with better coaches/schemes/execution. The Bills could have gone to the AFCC if they had executed better in the last drive. The Bills could have gone to the AFCC if their defense did not give up TDs on 3 straight possessions after half-time. There is a reason why the Chiefs went on the road and won in Buffalo and Baltimore. They were coached better and executed better. Plus they are NOT afraid to play their young players....and finally they are about 60M under the cap.... The Bills need to cut bait with high prized players as the margin of improvement with them is very small. The section you highlighted was a standalone statement showing they were always in games. Nobody took them behind the woodshed. As for the rest, we needed some of our better players to not be out with injuries. Even a 90% Bills team could have won that game. Injuries affect execution. It's why backups are backups. Edited February 12 by The Red King 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I'd have Chiefs #1 Bills and 49ers joint #2 Bengals #3 Everyone else needs lightening in a bottle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: I'd have Chiefs #1 Bills and 49ers joint #2 Bengals #3 Everyone else needs lightening in a bottle. Wish I was as optimistic as you lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'd have Chiefs #1 Bills and 49ers joint #2 Bengals #3 Everyone else needs lightening in a bottle. What about the Lions, Packers and Texans. All up and coming teams with bright futures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 The only other team I'd give a chance to actually is Green Bay. If Love can back it then I think they are a legit contender. I think he may well be the best QB in the NFC based on what I saw this year. Just now, Gregg said: What about the Lions, Packers and Texans. All up and coming teams with bright futures. Posts crossed. Just added the Pack. Not sure the Texans have enough elite around Stroud yet. They are probably 2 years away. Lions I think just missed their best shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 12 minutes ago, Gregg said: What about the Lions, Packers and Texans. All up and coming teams with bright futures. disrespect to Detroit and the Ravens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 It comes down to a few things: Injuries Can they improve the WR room with limited cap resources? Can they fill out a reasonably capable D-Line with limited cap resources? Can Von Miller give us a season at decent form? Tyler Bass gets his foot straight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 31 minutes ago, ganesh said: disrespect to Detroit and the Ravens Ravens are another team that will be in the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 52 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I'd have Chiefs #1 Bills and 49ers joint #2 Bengals #3 Everyone else needs lightening in a bottle. Burrow still has to prove he can be counted on by his team to actually avoid injury and be available every week. It’s far from a given, he just might be one of those guys who can never stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Doesn’t matter… as long as McClapper is at the helm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 23 minutes ago, julian said: Burrow still has to prove he can be counted on by his team to actually avoid injury and be available every week. It’s far from a given, he just might be one of those guys who can never stay healthy. What is the contract situation with their 3 receivers. I know Chase will be there but what about Higgins and Boyd. Can they afford to keep all 3. Edited February 12 by Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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julian Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: What is the contract situation with their 3 receivers. I know Chase will be there but what about Higgins and Boyd. Can they afford to keep all 3. Yeah and there’s that too, plenty of questions abound for Burrow and the Bengals in a very tough North division. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 2 minutes ago, julian said: Yeah and there’s that too, plenty of questions abound for Burrow and the Bengals in a very tough North division. Let the North beat the crap out of each other. Every team in that division has a strong rivalry within those 4 teams. Edited February 12 by Gregg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said: It comes down to a few things: Injuries Can they improve the WR room with limited cap resources? Can they fill out a reasonably capable D-Line with limited cap resources? Can Von Miller give us a season at decent form? Tyler Bass gets his foot straight I agree, I would just add that the special teams in general needs to get their ***** straight, not just Bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Of course they are, Allen and our Offense played the Chiefs defense better than anyone. A healthy Bills defense or 1 more deep threat and it could be a very different result, I say could be because it was easy for Mahomes all game he could play better and has before. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Sounds right. Despite all the doom and gloom, the Bills have arguably the best "put it all on him" QB in the league and a history of good to elite defenses. Give Allen some more weapons to play with, Brady can implement his system, and keep the defense at around the same level and you've got a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 2 hours ago, The Red King said: Bills have been annihilated by key injuries the last two seasons. If they find a way to stay reasonably healthy they are a serious threat. The Bills did not lose a single game by more then one score last season. They haven't lost a regular season game by more than 6 points since mid November of 2021 against the Colts at home. That's by far the longest in the NFL and completely absurd at how good they have been over that long period of time. Irritating they don't have more to show for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Eagles are best value. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Between McD locking down the AFC east and Vegas always putting us in the running for AFC Champions I don't need anymore as a fan. 8 minutes ago, Mopreme said: Eagles are best value. Not even close. Packers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Like the Packers at 25/1… Love them to win the Division over favourite Lions … Packers should have beat the 49ers … threw that game away …think they will have learn a lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 I’m not going to hold my breath. Allen is a great QB, but he’s not in the same class as Mahomes. He has the physical tools, but I’m not sold on his urgency to win at all costs. Brady had that. Mahomes has that. Plus, Beane missed the memo that winning free agency usually doesn’t translate to wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 People can talk all they want about injuries, coaching, depth, etc If you've been watching the WWNFL the past few years, it basically comes down to this: If the league wants your team to win, if it boosts ratings, and makes them $$, then your team will win I've resigned myself to this fact, and it makes the inevitable failures and screw jobs from the league that much easier to handle personally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 6 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I'd have Chiefs #1 Bills and 49ers joint #2 Bengals #3 Everyone else needs lightening in a bottle. Why not the Ravens right there with us and the Bengals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 7 minutes ago, Saint Doug said: I’m not going to hold my breath. Allen is a great QB, but he’s not in the same class as Mahomes. He has the physical tools, but I’m not sold on his urgency to win at all costs. Brady had that. Mahomes has that. Plus, Beane missed the memo that winning free agency usually doesn’t translate to wins. I don’t think he’s lacking the urgency at all. I just think he’s not that clutch. He was in the 13 seconds game, but otherwise at the end of the season when we really need him he’s just another classic Buffalo Bill. Amazing regular seasons, some other really nice playoff games, but when it really comes down to it he’s the guy who fumbles away wins in his own endzone, throws one way when Gabe runs the other, short throws an open Shakir, etc. He just doesn’t get it done. Another Jim Kelly. Really good, even great, but never gonna enough to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Why not the Ravens right there with us and the Bengals? I don't trust their offense in big moments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jim said: I don’t think he’s lacking the urgency at all. I just think he’s not that clutch. He was in the 13 seconds game, but otherwise at the end of the season when we really need him he’s just another classic Buffalo Bill. Amazing regular seasons, some other really nice playoff games, but when it really comes down to it he’s the guy who fumbles away wins in his own endzone, throws one way when Gabe runs the other, short throws an open Shakir, etc. He just doesn’t get it done. Another Jim Kelly. Really good, even great, but never gonna enough to get it done. Idk, he may get it done. He has all the talent in the world. And maybe I’m putting too much on his shoulders, but a winning QB does more than just throw more touchdowns than the opposition. I understand this may be McD’s job, but where’s the leadership? Where’s the heart? Would an elite QB have allowed his #1 target to pull a disappearing act? Would love to have Belicheat roaming our sidelines next year. Edited February 12 by Saint Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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