JDHillFan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, sherpa said: I'm not sure what you are inferring, but the US taxpayer cannot support this level of illegal immigration. Simply economically impossible. Thank you for a logical response. With such, you have shut roundy up, albeit temporarily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, B-Man said: “we’re being invaded and America is doomed but don’t you dare try to pass any legislation to fix it and also we’re impeaching the Homeland Security secretary and also shutting down the government” Pestilent vermin, all of them. Not fit to lead a Dollar General. 2 hours ago, sherpa said: I'm not sure what you are inferring, but the US taxpayer cannot support this level of illegal immigration. Simply economically impossible. Thank goodness you’re not leaning into the Great Replacement theory crud that many prominent right wingers do. It’s completely feasible. Read “One Billion Americans” by Matt Yglesias 1 hour ago, Tommy Callahan said: Biden gotta be betting the illegals being able to vote can save him. Hispanic groups tend to vote conservative. This is another myth the GOP tells you to stay angry all the time. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 12 minutes ago, Roundybout said: “we’re being invaded and America is doomed but don’t you dare try to pass any legislation to fix it and also we’re impeaching the Homeland Security secretary and also shutting down the government” Passing a bill that will NOT address the problem, simply to look like you are, The leftist way. . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Lol. A job is a resource to be given and taken by the state? Wth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Passing a bill that will NOT address the problem, simply to look like you are, The leftist way. . GOP came up with it. Seems like you guys don’t want any solution that doesn’t involve shooting anyone that tries to come over 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Roundybout said: “we’re being invaded and America is doomed but don’t you dare try to pass any legislation to fix it We have laws to stop it. This administration chooses to not enforce those restraints for political reasons. Same as the goofy strategy of buying votes by promising to strap the US taxpayer with student loan obligations. Pure nonsense from a failed administration. Edited January 26 by sherpa 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, sherpa said: We have laws to stop it. This administration chooses to not enforce those restraints for political reasons. Same as the goofy strategy of buying votes by promising to strap the US taxpayer with student loan obligations. Pure nonsense from a failed administration. He’s already doing student loan forgiveness by a different way. It’s happening like it or not. Call it failed all you want, it’ll be funny when he wins a second term because no one wants Dementia Don and his army of knuckle dragging Christian nationalists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 5 minutes ago, sherpa said: We have laws to stop it. This administration chooses to not enforce those restraints for political reasons. Same as the goofy strategy of buying votes by promising to strap the US taxpayer with student loan obligations. Pure nonsense from a failed administration. It's clear they either don't care or the talking points given to them are too powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Here's another question for the useful idiots screaming for new legislation... What guarantees do we have that the executive branch will actually enforce the law under any new legislation that is passed? I mean we have laws the the legislative branch already passed on the books and the executive branch simply will not enforce it. The answer is we don't have any guarantees because we know the democrats will just continue to do whatever is politically expedient. Laws be damned. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Here's another question for the useful idiots screaming for new legislation... What guarantees do we have that the executive branch will actually enforce the law under any new legislation that is passed? I mean we have laws the the legislative branch already passed on the books and the executive branch simply will not enforce it. The answer is we don't have any guarantees because we know the democrats will just continue to do whatever is politically expedient. Laws be damned. Pass it and find out. We already know Abbott doesn’t want to follow the law and will hopefully pay the price for doing so 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 13 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Pass it and find out. We already know Abbott doesn’t want to follow the law and will hopefully pay the price for doing so Is there an article here explaining this with facts and figures? And our we talking about immigrants who legally come into the country or those who enter illegally? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Is there an article here explaining this with facts and figures? And our we talking about immigrants who legally come into the country or those who enter illegally? Any claim that illegal immigration is a net revenue positive for US taxpayer is pure lunacy. Absolute lunacy. https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/shocking-cost-the-illegal-immigration-crisis-americans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 minute ago, sherpa said: Any claim that illegal immigration is a net revenue positive for US taxpayer is pure lunacy. Absolute lunacy. https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/shocking-cost-the-illegal-immigration-crisis-americans Well that was my thought too but I figured I'd give Roundy a chance to back his claim. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 21 minutes ago, sherpa said: Any claim that illegal immigration is a net revenue positive for US taxpayer is pure lunacy. Absolute lunacy. https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/shocking-cost-the-illegal-immigration-crisis-americans Heritage Foundation 😂😂😂😂 why would I listen to a neonazi group? Migrants buy things (sales tax) and often work under the table. They are a net tax positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 Lol. Msm parrots calling facts nazis to stay ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Heritage Foundation 😂😂😂😂 why would I listen to a neonazi group? Migrants buy things (sales tax) and often work under the table. They are a net tax positive. Absolute horsecrap. 3 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Migrants buy things (sales tax) and often work under the table. They are a net tax positive. Absolute, complete horsecrap. Take the cost of border enforcement. Add to it the cost associated with housing illegals and their healthcare, add to it the cost of deportation, which is all done by the wonderful US taxpayer, and present any reasonable argument that illegals are a net positive. The claim is preposterous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Roundybout Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 minutes ago, sherpa said: Absolute horsecrap. Absolute, complete horsecrap. Take the cost of border enforcement. Add to it the cost associated with housing illegals and their healthcare, add to it the cost of deportation, which is all done by the wonderful US taxpayer, and present any reasonable argument that illegals are a net positive. The claim is preposterous. Now that I'm home and not on my phone at the office, I can give you better sources. Quote Immigrants have a more positive net fiscal impact than that of native‐born Americans in most scenarios in the Updated Model and in every scenario in the Cato Model, depending on how the costs of public goods are allocated. The Cato Model finds that immigrant individuals who arrive at age 25 and who are high school dropouts have a net fiscal impact of +$216,000 in net present value terms, which does not include their descendants. Including the fiscal impact of those immigrants’ descendants reduces those immigrants’ net fiscal impact to +$57,000. By comparison, native‐born American high school dropouts of the same age have a net fiscal impact of −$32,000 that drops to −$177,000 when their descendants are included (see Table 31). Results also differ by level of government. State and local governments often incur a less positive or even negative net fiscal impact from immigration, whereas the federal government almost always sees revenues rise above expenditures in response to immigration. With some variation and exceptions, the net fiscal impact of immigrants is more positive than it is for native‐born Americans and positive overall for the federal and state/local governments. https://www.cato.org/white-paper/fiscal-impact-immigration-united-states#historical-fiscal-impacts-1994-2018 Quote Until the Immigration Act of 1924, everyone in the world was eligible to immigrate to the United States unless the government proved they fell into an ineligible category. In other words, innocent until proven guilty. Since then, the foundational principle of U.S. immigration law is that everyone in the world is ineligible to immigrate unless they prove to the government they fit into an eligible category. The result is that over 99 percent of all those wanting to immigrate to the United States cannot do so legally. https://www.cato.org/blog/why-legal-immigration-nearly-impossible Quote Most available studies conclude that the unauthorized population pays less in state and local taxes than it costs state and local governments to provide services to that population. https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf 6 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Putting treasonous, secessionist asswipes away is a good thing, actually. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 2 hours ago, sherpa said: Any claim that illegal immigration is a net revenue positive for US taxpayer is pure lunacy. Absolute lunacy. https://www.heritage.org/immigration/commentary/shocking-cost-the-illegal-immigration-crisis-americans They're not here to think: they're here to parrot lies told to them. It's costing us $150B annually to care for illegals. You think they're providing even $150B and $1 in return? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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