Conservative Republican Liz Cheney’s Warning to America

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So do all those Americans that can still see a doctor! I know, you don't care. You just want to hurt people and institutions that help people. 

 

Fascism sucks 

The industry loves the blank checks to them from the state.

 

thats fascism?

 

Seems more like corporatism, but then again Mussolini called fascism, corporatism.

 

full circle

 

[Tiberius]

Don't forget how he tried to screw up the US Mail to interfere with mail in ballots! 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

Sorry. No one but lefties care what McCain or George Conway thinks or says.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Tommy Callahan

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

 You think Dick Cheney fabricated evidence leading to the war?

 

Then you use a 2007 interview over debate on Iraq policy to prove what exactly? Not following your "logic" there. 

Jeesh, how would I know?  That was a liberal talking point on the run up to the Obama election.  It pretty much dropped off the map when Obama won, which seemed very odd to me. 

 

That's the reason I asked about Maddow and her interview--perfect time to ask Liz what she knew, and when she knew it.  That it dates to 2007 is irrelevant imo. 

[sherpa]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Lol, ya sure buddy. You defended the action, passionately 

 

What "lies" did I tell about Bush? 

 

You said I lied, now, what did I lie about? False claims about Bush admin, what was that, or did you just make that up? 

You think Dick Cheney fabricated evidence leading to the war? @sherpa Do tell us

 

 

You really are a tough individual to respond to.

Not because your points are valid or true, but because it takes time to sort out your misstatements; your scrambled, nonsense claims.

 

The "lie" I am accusing you of is your statement that I ever thought the invasion was a "good idea."

 

That never happened. 

I had well thought out reasons why I didn't think it was a "good idea," as executed.

I didn't post those, as nobody asked.

 

What I did post is a rebuttal to your claims about Bush rushing into war.

I posted the actual facts about going through Congress and the UN.

Both authorized force.

 

In the case of the US Congress, who approved it overwhelmingly, they were presented the exact same intel that the President was, came to the same conclusion, and voted accordingly, Biden and Clinton being major supporters.

 

The Dems, running away from that matter of Congressional record action, is the same as the claimed ignorance of Nancy Pelosi not knowing of "enhanced interrogation techniques."

 

Both situations are after the fact denials of factual data.

 

I also posted an assertion that something was going to happen because the existing situation was not sustainable.

The US was enforcing no fly zones. That situation had become a massive burden and could not continue, especially since Iraq had started firing SAMS against them.

 

Whatever your imagination conjures up is not my concern.

It would simply help if you didn't post those imaginary claims here, as they are untrue.

 

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Jeesh, how would I know?  That was a liberal talking point on the run up to the Obama election.  It pretty much dropped off the map when Obama won, which seemed very odd to me. 

 

That's the reason I asked about Maddow and her interview--perfect time to ask Liz what she knew, and when she knew it.  That it dates to 2007 is irrelevant imo. 

So you wish the interview was about something else, along with the whole conversation. You were just pulling a "whataboutism" 

 

Ok 

[Irv]

Failure Liz Cheney will say anything trying to sell her ***** book.  Still bellyaching about Trump running her out of office.    Who cares what that loser says. What a mess.  

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, sherpa said:

 

You really are a tough individual to respond to.

Not because your points are valid or true, but because it takes time to sort out your misstatements; your scrambled, nonsense claims.

 

The "lie" I am accusing you of is your statement that I ever thought the invasion was a "good idea."

 

That never happened. 

I had well thought out reasons why I didn't think it was a "good idea," as executed.

I didn't post those, as nobody asked.

 

What I did post is a rebuttal to your claims about Bush rushing into war.

I posted the actual facts about going through Congress and the UN.

Both authorized force.

 

In the case of the US Congress, who approved it overwhelmingly, they were presented the exact same intel that the President was, came to the same conclusion, and voted accordingly, Biden and Clinton being major supporters.

 

The Dems, running away from that matter of Congressional record action, is the same as the claimed ignorance of Nancy Pelosi not knowing of "enhanced interrogation techniques."

 

Both situations are after the fact denials of factual data.

 

I also posted an assertion that something was going to happen because the existing situation was not sustainable.

The US was enforcing no fly zones. That situation had become a massive burden and could not continue, especially since Iraq had started firing SAMS against them.

 

Whatever your imagination conjures up is not my concern.

It would simply help if you didn't post those imaginary claims here, as they are untrue.

 

What did I "lie" about the Bush administration, as you claim? You are playing switch-a-roo now 

 

Kind of dishonest 

Just now, Irv said:

Failure Liz Cheney will say anything trying to sell her ***** book.  Still bellyaching about Trump running her out of office.    Who cares what that loser says. What a mess.  

Best seller! 

 

Yes, she and Trump both lost, she just admitted it, though. Trump, not so much 

[sherpa]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What did I "lie" about the Bush administration, as you claim? You are playing switch-a-roo now 

 

Kind of dishonest 

 

For the third time, this is the lie you have posted, readily accessible in this thread:

 

"You told me so. 

That you thought the Iraq war was a good idea?"

 

That never happened. That is your screwed up, nonsense, imaginary claim.

 

You get on here, and you make judgements about people's patriotism, honesty, ethical values. cowardice and a host of other horsecrap, and you you can't even accurately remember what was said.

 

You burden people with correcting your nonsense.

 

Why don't you just shut up and process what people actually say?

 

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[leh-nerd skin-erd]

13 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

So you wish the interview was about something else, along with the whole conversation. You were just pulling a "whataboutism" 

 

Ok 

No, not something else, in addition too.  Maddow would obv ask about 1/6, but she had been quite vocal about the Cheney involvement in the Iraq war.  I don't understand why she would pass up the opportunity that she was waiting for.

 

I guess Maddow is like a lot of folks, you maybe, where the outrage machine points you in a given direction until something new comes along.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BillStime]

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[BillStime]

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[Tiberius]

30 minutes ago, BillStime said:

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Exodus 20:14 

 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 

 

@Irv 

[LeviF]

 

 

[Tiberius]

Trump selling Bibles, lol 

[Andy1]

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and selling bibles.

[Tiberius]

 

[All_Pro_Bills]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

 

This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole.  The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country.

[4th&long]

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole.  The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country.

“Completely ruined our country”? LOL. The drama. I love how people try to rewrite history. 

 

I’m sure the last trump ***** store has nothing to do with what Biden inherited. 
 

I’m sure I it’s a conversation that is way above peoples heads. But there is a thing called supply and demand not to mention how the supply chain was thrown out of wack when the pandemic started. That was all started when trump was president. Try to deny it.

” but gas was cheap under trump “ I hear a lot. That’s because no one was driving anywhere. But that is above peoples heads.

 

 

 “The country is completely ruined” as he eats his 5 th meal of the day and is 40 I’ve overweight, after he drives him to his $500,000 house in a BMW.

[Tiberius]

17 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

This election boils down to your choice of who you think is the cleanest pig in the mud hole.  The problem Liz will have is convincing them to vote for an incumbent candidate that has completely ruined our country.

LOL!! Good one! 🤣