Tiberius Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Germany nationalized industries and gave their chosen people guaranteed jobs and income while taking away the people's right to defend themselves, how is that not socialist? Please tell me what they have in common with a libertarian? They were an authoritarian government, of course they did that. They were also racist. Socialism is workers of the world unite, not of the nation. Nazis were about the fabled German Volk, just their people. The Democrats are the most multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious political party in the world. And socialism has democracy as an element. And protecting people's individual rights. Democrats are like that too. Protecting the vote. MAGA is like the Nazis trying to overturn the vote, to rip up Constitutions. You just don't understand history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: Your US history teacher would be ashamed of this, Nazi literally is the shortened German version of National Socialist, and is one step left of Fascism which is definitely Leftist. Secondly the fact that you lump libertarians and constitutionalists into on category under conservatism while breaking up small differences on your side makes you clearly and extreme lefty. (I am) trying to keep it simple for you. I don't think you can handle a 2nd or 3rd axis on chart...😏 Americans on right are all about governmental control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Behind the Curtain: Tearing apart Democrats https://www.axios.com/2023/11/05/israel-gaza-democrats-biden No issue threatens to break President Biden's fragile Democratic coalition like Israel's response to the Hamas terrorist attack. Why it matters: Infighting is spreading, slowly but meaningfully, at every layer of the Democratic Party over Biden's full-throated support of Israel. It runs much deeper than college campus protests or caustic comments from elected officials. Another Trump indictment incoming. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 56 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: (I am) trying to keep it simple for you. I don't think you can handle a 2nd or 3rd axis on chart...😏 Americans on right are all about governmental control. Your initial graph is false, and your statement here is just as stupid. The one time in our lifetime we got to see the real differences between the liberal states vs conservative states was COVID and we know who went to government control. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: They were an authoritarian government, of course they did that. They were also racist. Socialism is workers of the world unite, not of the nation. Nazis were about the fabled German Volk, just their people. The Democrats are the most multi-racial, multi-ethnic, multi-religious political party in the world. And socialism has democracy as an element. And protecting people's individual rights. Democrats are like that too. Protecting the vote. MAGA is like the Nazis trying to overturn the vote, to rip up Constitutions. You just don't understand history Socialism can be race based, just as capitalism can be also. Your fascination with making socialism pure is hilarious. I will usually praise capitalism but recognize that slavery was something that happened under the US capitalism at the beginning of our country. Socialism is also by definition not concerned with individual rights, they worry about social constructs. Seriously your argument is like speaking with a middle schooler 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Dems always show off their Fascist/ Commie roots. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orlando Tim said: Your initial graph is false, and your statement here is just as stupid. The one time in our lifetime we got to see the real differences between the liberal states vs conservative states was COVID and we know who went to government control. You know... Israel is a very socialist country. Ultra-conservative with fascist tendency... You support that. What was their stance during The Pandemic? 😏 Edited November 5, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, ExiledInIllinois said: You know... Israel is a very socialist country. Ultra-conaetvative with fascist tendency... You support that. What was their stance during The Pandemic? 😏 I support what part of Israel? And what does their pandemic response have to do with Democrats being Nazis? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 17 hours ago, ChiGoose said: You gotta appreciate the grift that convinces people that a party that is almost entirely left of center is actually socialist and that’s why voters should support fascism. Grifters gotta grift. Who can define the acronym nazi and translate? what was their position on religion? what was their position of corporations? socialism spawned the nazi party. It’s a well ***** documented fact. You folks can’t wish reality away. You socialists types are in denial. Just like socialist and communist Russia and China are a whole lot closer to Nazi Germany than any other government around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Orlando Tim said: I support what part of Israel? And what does their pandemic response have to do with Democrats being Nazis? You sure do! You support Israel. Democrats can't be Nazis. Nazism is on the Nationalistic right. Republicans are closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 32 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Democrats can't be Nazis. Perhaps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Which political party is the party that supports the confiscation of gender? Which party leads the assault on the nuclear family/ parental rights? Which party has facilitated the flood of cheap unskilled labor into the country? Which party has weaponized federal law enforcement against it's political rivals? These are core Marxist/socialist principals being breached by one specific party. It's not even open to debate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Perhaps. Parental rights - funny when the cult uses that excuse and then pisses all over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share Posted November 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You sure do! You support Israel. Democrats can't be Nazis. Nazism is on the Nationalistic right. Republicans are closer. That’s a lie because liberals wrote the history books and it was too hard grapple with this inconvenient fact and created an alternative reality spectrum. Capitalism is the right, Communism is the left. Naziism belongs to the left of Communism in reality, because that’s exactly what happens right after the consolidation of power. the National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei) is there anyone here who cares to argue how fascism is the most capitalist of all? idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledInIllinois said: You sure do! You support Israel. Democrats can't be Nazis. Nazism is on the Nationalistic right. Republicans are closer. Nazis are National Socialists and you have not provided any evidence against it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: Parental rights - funny when the cult uses that excuse and then pisses all over it. I don't think the word "cult" means what you think it means. A cult is a group of like 100-200 people, not 190 million But don't stop believin', it's fun to watch you pound the table arguing inaccuracies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, TSOL said: I don't think the word "cult" means what you think it means. A cult is a group of like 100-200 people, not 190 million But don't stop believin', it's fun to watch you pound the table arguing inaccuracies You might want to go do some research on your figures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: You might want to go do some research on your figures. Nah, I feel pretty confident it's like half the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, TSOL said: Nah, I feel pretty confident it's like half the country. Nah, you're not even close. What is the current us population? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted November 5, 2023 Share Posted November 5, 2023 Just now, BillStime said: Nah, you're not even close. What is the current us population? Oh stop, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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