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44 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

@sherpaclearly deduced my vicinity when he invited me over the mountain.  But he's much smarter than you....

Didn’t mean to trigger you but I think you are to blame for incredibly imprecise wording. I would think someone of superior intellect like yourself would have more success with math and maps. Four hours south of Richmond and you are visiting Pedro at South of The Border. Weather report - chili today, hot tamale! 

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51 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Didn’t mean to trigger you but I think you are to blame for incredibly imprecise wording. I would think someone of superior intellect like yourself would have more success with math and maps. Four hours south of Richmond and you are visiting Pedro at South of The Border. Weather report - chili today, hot tamale! 

yes, i tried to avoid higher math thru school but not entirely possible.  Chemical kinetics f'in sucked.  just memorized long equations to make it thru.  never took a geography class.  btw, Wash is NE of richmond.  I'm SW

 

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=washington+to+richmond&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

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4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

yes, i tried to avoid higher math thru school but not entirely possible.  Chemical kinetics f'in sucked.  just memorized long equations to make it thru.  never took a geography class.  btw, Wash is NE of richmond.  I'm SW

 

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=washington+to+richmond&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

No worries. You f up here regularly. No biggie. 

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1 hour ago, JDHillFan said:

Didn’t mean to trigger you but I think you are to blame for incredibly imprecise wording. I would think someone of superior intellect like yourself would have more success with math and maps. Four hours south of Richmond and you are visiting Pedro at South of The Border. Weather report - chili today, hot tamale! 

The only map he knows is "The hip bone's connected to the leg bone...."

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4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Because you use your so-called experiences to back up your arguments on this board. 

 

So, what years were those again? 

 

You really don't pay attention to what other's post, and it is clearly evident.

 

A couple of weeks ago, I believe in this very thread, I wrote a lengthy post about responding to the Iranian takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran; the resulting hostage situation, and Kitty Hawk being turned around from going home to heading to the Arabian Sea and picking up the ill fated helos that were destroyed at Desert One.

I also discussed the planning of eliminating two Iranian Air Bases in response to a query from Fergy.

 

You should be aware of when that historic event occurred, as it significantly effected US foreign policy and a presidential election.

You seem to not be able to connect dots.

 

Anyway, my squadron deployed on Kitty Hawk and as part of that embarked airwing, I made two cruises on Kitty Hawk during the ship's WESTPAC/Indian Ocean operations from 79-81.

 

https://www.navysite.de/cvn/cv63deploy.htm

Scroll down to April 30 1979 and April 1 1981 deployments.

 

I have over 200 of my 300 carrier arrested landings, called "traps," 100 at night on Kitty Hawk, and pages and pages of logbook entries recording those "so called experiences" to use your phrase your foolish doubt.

 

The picture I included months ago of me after pre-flighting the alert 15 airplane  carrying Sidewinders, APAM and HARM missiles is on Kitty Hawk.  

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On 11/10/2023 at 9:28 PM, Andy1 said:


The world needs more moderate voices connected to the Israel-Palestinian conflict to speak out. As an outside observer, it seems to me that the extremists define the issues so often. I like to think that most people, the silent majority, are not on the extremes and just want to live peacefully. 
 

I believe that as long as the Palestinian people allow Hamas to exist, they will forever be suffering. Hamas will continue to attack Israel and the cycle of violence will continue, to the delight of Hamas. Sadly, as in every war, innocent people are suffering and dying. Hamas wanted this war.
 

Under the right conditions, wars can be followed by peace, but both sides have to want stability and peace more than they want revenge. When the culture celebrates every Palestinian who dies as a martyr, they don’t seem ready for peace. I don’t think a single state solution would ever be accepted by Israel since Isralis would not want to be out numbered by Palestinians. Peace seemed so close during the Clinton administration and so far away now. Both sides need leaders who want peace more than war. It’s a totally f’d up situation. 


I suppose when you have nothing to live for some might start looking for things to die for. All of my Palestinian-American friends and relatives are well off. None of us want to be a martyr. 
 

22 hours ago, Andy1 said:


This is a good sign. Maybe the civilians are fed up with Hamas.

Of course they are but people keep harping over a election that took place almost 20 years ago smh 

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3 hours ago, Justice said:


I suppose when you have nothing to live for some might start looking for things to die for.

 I guess I don’t understand the martyr mentality. Maybe it’s a psychological way to rationalize the tragic death of loved ones. Acknowledging the deaths of loved ones as unnecessary and a waste is tough to do.

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18 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

You really don't pay attention to what other's post, and it is clearly evident.

 

A couple of weeks ago, I believe in this very thread, I wrote a lengthy post about responding to the Iranian takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran; the resulting hostage situation, and Kitty Hawk being turned around from going home to heading to the Arabian Sea and picking up the ill fated helos that were destroyed at Desert One.

I also discussed the planning of eliminating two Iranian Air Bases in response to a query from Fergy.

 

You should be aware of when that historic event occurred, as it significantly effected US foreign policy and a presidential election.

You seem to not be able to connect dots.

 

Anyway, my squadron deployed on Kitty Hawk and as part of that embarked airwing, I made two cruises on Kitty Hawk during the ship's WESTPAC/Indian Ocean operations from 79-81.

 

https://www.navysite.de/cvn/cv63deploy.htm

Scroll down to April 30 1979 and April 1 1981 deployments.

 

I have over 200 of my 300 carrier arrested landings, called "traps," 100 at night on Kitty Hawk, and pages and pages of logbook entries recording those "so called experiences" to use your phrase your foolish doubt.

 

The picture I included months ago of me after pre-flighting the alert 15 airplane  carrying Sidewinders, APAM and HARM missiles is on Kitty Hawk.  

Interesting, Why did you say Air Craft Carriers do not do humanitarian missions? 

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19 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

You really don't pay attention to what other's post, and it is clearly evident.

 

A couple of weeks ago, I believe in this very thread, I wrote a lengthy post about responding to the Iranian takeover of the US Embassy in Tehran; the resulting hostage situation, and Kitty Hawk being turned around from going home to heading to the Arabian Sea and picking up the ill fated helos that were destroyed at Desert One.

I also discussed the planning of eliminating two Iranian Air Bases in response to a query from Fergy.

 

You should be aware of when that historic event occurred, as it significantly effected US foreign policy and a presidential election.

You seem to not be able to connect dots.

 

Anyway, my squadron deployed on Kitty Hawk and as part of that embarked airwing, I made two cruises on Kitty Hawk during the ship's WESTPAC/Indian Ocean operations from 79-81.

 

https://www.navysite.de/cvn/cv63deploy.htm

Scroll down to April 30 1979 and April 1 1981 deployments.

 

I have over 200 of my 300 carrier arrested landings, called "traps," 100 at night on Kitty Hawk, and pages and pages of logbook entries recording those "so called experiences" to use your phrase your foolish doubt.

 

The picture I included months ago of me after pre-flighting the alert 15 airplane  carrying Sidewinders, APAM and HARM missiles is on Kitty Hawk.  

IT desperately wants to Dox you.   

 

or date you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Interesting, Why did you say Air Craft Carriers do not do humanitarian missions? 

 

They are aircraft carriers, not "Air Craft Carriers."

I was talking about their use in the context of the two deployed there at this time.

Both have full airwings embarked on them and are in war zones and possible war zones.

 

It is possible to use one for a humanitarian mission without an operating airwing embarked, such as a earthquake or something in the western hemisphere. 

 

With an airwing aboard, an aircraft carrier is an extremely dangerous place.

There is no additional room for anyone.

The flight deck is probably the most dangerous work space on earth, and nobody would be allowed up there during flight operations. You can get killed or thrust overboard in a second.

The hangar deck is always busy, but the huge openings where the elevators operate would be a likely place to fall overboard.

There is no extra bunkrooms. It would take huge amounts of human resources to control whomever was boarded, and that manpower does not exist.

As they are either in, or could be in war zones, there are times when general quarters was sounded, and there is not place to put them while the ship addresses the threat.

 

In addition, there are other, better options. 

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2 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

They are aircraft carriers, not "Air Craft Carriers."

I was talking about their use in the context of the two deployed there at this time.

Both have full airwings embarked on them and are in war zones and possible war zones.

 

It is possible to use one for a humanitarian mission without an operating airwing embarked, such as a earthquake or something in the western hemisphere. 

 

With an airwing aboard, an aircraft carrier is an extremely dangerous place.

There is no additional room for anyone.

The flight deck is probably the most dangerous work space on earth, and nobody would be allowed up there during flight operations. You can get killed or thrust overboard in a second.

The hangar deck is always busy, but the huge openings where the elevators operate would be a likely place to fall overboard.

There is no extra bunkrooms. It would take huge amounts of human resources to control whomever was boarded, and that manpower does not exist.

As they are either in, or could be in war zones, there are times when general quarters was sounded, and there is not place to put them while the ship addresses the threat.

 

In addition, there are other, better options. 

But the kitty hawk engaged in a humanitarian mission in 1979 

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