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1 minute ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I lobe how so many "liberals" have a Yankee superiority complex.  I live with one. Its gross.  And please tell me you were not one of ones slobbering mad when President Trump called other countries ***** hole countries.

He’s a hypocrite, of course he was. 

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1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

I'm intrigued

How is it ever possible to have a "one state solution" in Israel, when one group insists the other has no right to exist?

"Welcome to my neighborhood, and you have no right to exist."

 

In addition, while you point out the contributions of the US to Israel, you don't mention Iran's complete funding and support of not only Hamas, but the Islamic world's hatred of Israel, down to and including grammar school hatred indoctrination.

Do I really need to? It’s kind of like saying one plus one equals two. Difference here is the US and Israel act all high and mighty. 

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2 hours ago, Justice said:


 

I’m all for a one state solution. Israel will never ever allow that. You should know that though. The status quo will never work and this is what Israel wants. They’re content with the situation. Don’t let them fool you. 
 

Israel not wanting people who are openly calling for their extermination to live next door is actually a pretty easy thing to understand. 

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16 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I was stationed VA for a while when I was in the Marines.  I liked it.  But It's would NEVER call Mississippi a ***** hole state.

Fair enough.  I would never call an impoverished country a #####hole country.  But that's me....I lived in Louisiana as a kid for a couple years.  Hooker had a big plant in Taft, La.. Was their 1st year of integration.  Not great.  Never been to Mississippi but I think it's the poorest state, so they're linked.  Thank you for your service!

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5 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

How is it ever possible to have a "one state solution" in Israel, when one group insists the other has no right to exist?

"Welcome to my neighborhood, and you have no right to exist."

When 1 group insists "Welcome to my neighborhood.  I'm taking your house and subjugating you..."

 

I get it.  Israel is a strategic, military ally.  Palestine is not.  Humanism does matter esp to our reputation and other alliances...

23 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:


They couldn’t spell let’s go Brandon. 

Politically, he must publicly request a cease fire, now.

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4 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Fair enough.  I would never call an impoverished country a #####hole country.  But that's me....I lived in Louisiana as a kid for a couple years.  Hooker had a big plant in Taft, La.. Was their 1st year of integration.  Not great.  Never been to Mississippi but I think it's the poorest state, so they're linked.  Thank you for your service!

 

You're welcome. It was an honor.

 

I would never call a country a ***** hole country.

 

I would also NEVER call a state I had never been to full of fellow Americans a ***** hole state because they are poor.  Seems elitist and hypocritical to do so. But that's just me.

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Why there will never be peace... Why the hatred will now carry on to the next generation. 

 

The bullied have now become the bullies:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldiers-film-themselves-abusing-humiliating-west-bank-palestinians/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end&utm_content=4

 

 

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5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Why there will never be peace... Why the hatred will now carry on to the next generation. 

 

The bullied have now become the bullies:

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-soldiers-film-themselves-abusing-humiliating-west-bank-palestinians/?utm_campaign=most_popular&utm_source=website&utm_medium=article_end&utm_content=4

 

 

Let's send them more money! I don't think the Arab world is angry enough at us yet...

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For anyone interested in learning the history of peace negotiations between the Palestinians and Israel, this documentary describes the history of that process. Whenever peace was close, extremists on either side would sabotage it with violent actions. We seem so far removed from those times now. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Let's send them more money! I don't think the Arab world is angry enough at us yet...

 

 

Consider the way the Arab world treats women before you cheerlead for them please. 

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There is nothing wrong with hoping for a two-state solution in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. In fact, for over 70 years the Israelis, the UN, and most people around the world have been arguing that a two-state solution is the only outcome that could achieve permanent peace.

 

There is one problem: the Palestinian leadership and most of the Palestinians, along with a large number of Muslim extremists, don’t want a two-state solution. Their goal is one state, one people, and the Middle East altogether cleansed of Jews. It’s pretty hard to find a compromise with people who want you dead and gone.

 

Many well-meaning people don’t really understand this fact. They have been educated to believe that Israel has been the obstacle to Middle East peace, which explains why so many people have mixed feelings about the conflict and why there is so much sympathy for the Palestinians.

 

Those ignorant of the long and sad history of peace negotiations in the region may be forgiven because they have been taught a false history by academia and the MSM.

 

The Palestinians don’t want to negotiate. They want to rearm and reposition so they can strike again. Duplication of 10/7, time and again, is their strategy.

 

This is not hyperbole. This is exactly what Hamas says all the time.

 

 

 

 

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You can see the results. Those people tearing down the flyers of hostages aren’t hoping for a cease-fire or two-state solution. They don’t believe Jews are human. They believe that babies and seniors should be prisoners of Hamas if it helps the barbarians get what they want. They justify the rape, torture, and murder of civilians as #resistance, calling for the eradication of Israel (from the river to the sea!).

 

These are antisemites. And for them, the cease-fire is exactly what Hamas hopes: a time to rearm and regroup. Their goal is the elimination of Israel and the Jews, and they deserve all the contempt we can heap on them.

 

The West has incubated hate by allowing our universities and now schools to become places of radical ideology, and it will take years of effort–which seems unlikely to occur–to root it out. Radical surgery is required, because this ideology is like gangrene. You must chop off the dead limb before the infection spreads even further.

 

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/11/05/no-they-arent-peace-activists-they-are-antisemites-n590017

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13 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

And LGBTQ+ and Jews.  But it's for them they've been told to cheerlead...

 

 

For real! Some of these guys are such a bunch of flip flops, 

@Tiberius do you know the arab world will literally behead you for being a homosexual? And youre bleeding heart is crying for these people? 

Come on man! Stand up for SOMEthing! Don't be a flip flop

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5 minutes ago, TSOL said:

For real! Some of these guys are such a bunch of flip flops, 

@Tiberius do you know the arab world will literally behead you for being a homosexual? And youre bleeding heart is crying for these people? 

Come on man! Stand up for SOMEthing! Don't be a flip flop

 

Less of being flip-flops.  Netanyahu is considered far-right and Trump had an issue with extremist Muslims.  So naturally their only reaction is to support a group who goes against their core social values.  It's really fascinating to see.

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1 hour ago, TSOL said:

 

 

For real! Some of these guys are such a bunch of flip flops, 

@Tiberius do you know the arab world will literally behead you for being a homosexual? And youre bleeding heart is crying for these people? 

Come on man! Stand up for SOMEthing! Don't be a flip flop

Religion is kind of stupid, so what? We are still working on  the women hating, gay bashing, and general hating of everything that is different, they will get over it too if they get democracy. 

 

I don't see you hating the Orthodox christians in Russia for being the same way. Now why is that? 

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