Irv Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 12 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: You do know that his brother is the best ever UFC fighter, Jon Bones Jones? They spent some time growing up in Rochester. Jon has had drug problems in his past. So always remember, location does not discriminate. If you're not careful, trouble will find you no matter where you are. But yes, it's much easier to fk yourself in Vegas. 24/7, 365 baby. Rubbish! Sincerely, Anderson Silva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, Irv said: Rubbish! Sincerely, Anderson Silva Was he undefeated in his career? He was a beast, as were most of those OG dudes. But Bones was on a different planet. Dude is nasty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 3 hours ago, KDIGGZ said: Your boy Beane who you guys think walks on water... 1. Traded for Antonio Brown who luckily nixed the deal at the last moment then proceeded to get kicked off of 3 teams in like a year. 2. Offered the Von deal to Chandler Jones but he chose to go to Vegas instead. So he then pivoted to Von. #2 is absolute tin foil hat wearing horse plucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Was he undefeated in his career? He was a beast, as were most of those OG dudes. But Bones was on a different planet. Dude is nasty. Won a lot of fights while on PED's and other drugs. Cheated and lost to Matt Hamill. Dude is a mess. Brother the same. Pound for pound a lot of average guys would kick his ass without the drugs he was/is on. Solid no! Edited September 30, 2023 by Irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I remember wanting him last year before bring in Von. Thank God we brought in Von instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Irv said: Won a lot of fights while on PED's and other drugs. Cheated and lost to Matt Hamill. Dude is a mess. Brother the same. Pound for pound a lot of average guys would kick his ass without the drugs he was/is on. Solid no! I can’t stand Bones and he’s a mess but “cheated” and lost to Hamill is a bit strong. He made a mental mistake during a fight that he was dominating. average guys would kick his ass w/o the peds…..lol. I get why people hate him, I’m one of them, but your thoughts are extreme. He’s top 5 ever….many feel the goat. 1 hour ago, Irv said: Rubbish! Sincerely, Anderson Silva https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2757812-anderson-silva-making-sense-of-ufc-greats-legacy-after-2nd-failed-drug-test.amp.html I agree that Silva is the best I’ve ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I can’t stand Bones and he’s a mess but “cheated” and lost to Hamill is a bit strong. He made a mental mistake during a fight that he was dominating. average guys would kick his ass w/o the peds…..lol. I get why people hate him, I’m one of them, but your thoughts are extreme. He’s top 5 ever….many feel the goat. Steroid cheat and woman abuser Great fighter but total POS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Steroid cheat and woman abuser Great fighter but total POS He is. I can’t stand him. He’s still an all time great regardless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: He is. I can’t stand him. He’s still an all time great regardless He's like BJ Penn who frequents the bars around here, complete POS moron but amazing fighter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: He's like BJ Penn who frequents the bars around here, complete POS moron but amazing fighter great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did. They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago. think he has CTE or is that just who he is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, TheWeatherMan said: #2 is absolute tin foil hat wearing horse plucky. Lol it absolutely happened. Beane tried all off-season to get CHANDLER JONES not Von Miller. Then Jones picked Vegas so he offered the same contract to Von and didn't think he would get him either and was shocked when he said yes. Von wanted to go to Dallas but they didn't offer as much as the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did. They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago. think he has CTE or is that just who he is? CTE plays a huge part imo He probably wasn't a great guy beforehand but last 10years have been really rough on him...my brother is representing one of his baby mamas and the stories are wild😂😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: CTE plays a huge part imo He probably wasn't a great guy beforehand but last 10years have been really rough on him...my brother is representing one of his baby mamas and the stories are wild😂😂 All those UFC guys are bat ***** crazy. Some insane documentaries on some of them. I bet most of them dudes are high on pain killers when the step in the cage. And there's Dana White saying he doesn't allow anything illegal going on with any of his fighters. Meanwhile, he doubled in size, muscular speaking, but doesn't allow roids. He's clearly doing cycles himself. Prolly with Rogan too. He got huge out of nowhere also. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PetermansRedemption Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I honestly don’t know what took them so long. Maybe they couldn’t have an out of the contract until now? Guy has been certifiably insane for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, NewEra said: great comparison minus the W-L’s. Jones will never get punished like BJ did. They’re only 8 years apart, yet BJ was toast 13 years ago. think he has CTE or is that just who he is? BJ Penn is absolutely one of the goats of UFC regardless of record BJ Penn's record is inflated He's a natural 155 pounder who moved all the way up to light heavy to fight machida in his career ... He constantly was moving up weight to fight bugger guys His whole career was go up against bigger badder guys than himself He dominated at 155.. first two division weight champ.. he submitted Matt Hughes who is a huge mother f***** and beast Yes Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time but BJ Penn is a machine Edited September 30, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: BJ Penn is absolutely one of the goats of UFC regardless of record BJ Penn's record is inflated He's a natural 155 pounder who moved all the way up to light heavy to fight machida in his career ... He constantly was moving up weight to fight bugger guys His whole career was go up against bigger badder guys than himself He dominated at 155.. first two division weight champ.. he submitted Matt Hughes who is a huge mother f***** and beast Yes Jon Jones is the greatest MMA fighter of all time but BJ Penn is a machine I’m not saying he’s not a great….. I was just making a comparison to Jones. I know all about him and his career. I’ve partied with him. He’s one of my favorites. He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys. His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox. I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup. He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever. As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation. I’m friends with a handful of his friends. They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time. They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not saying he’s not a great….. I was just making a comparison to Jones. I know all about him and his career. I’ve partied with him. He’s one of my favorites. He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys. His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox. I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup. He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever. As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation. I’m friends with a handful of his friends. They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time. They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time Well when you're the youngest Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion history Nicknamed The prodigy... I'm sure it's not easy to stay grounded With that said Jon Jones is by far the greatest mixed martial artist... he's ana animal Edited September 30, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: Well when you're the youngest Brazilian jiu-jitsu world champion history Nicknamed The prodigy... I'm sure it's not easy to stay grounded With that said Jon Jones is by far the greatest mixed martial artist... he's ana animal The silver spoon came from his family and upbringing I think there are 2 different valid viewpoints when it comes to GOAT of MMA. I do view Jon Jones as the greatest ever and just like you said, by far. But if that’s the case, I would also view Barry Bonds as the greater baseball player ever. And I do….. yet no one else does…. And I understand why. The same reason some don’t regard JJ as the GOAT, even though, octogon performance wise, he blows everyone away. I don’t know how PEDs affected him inside the ring and he may have been the GOAT without them, but who knows for sure? 2 suspensions for PEDS and a positive test for Cocaine in which he admitted using it before his fight with Cormier. That kind of thing matters to people. Ask Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 27 minutes ago, NewEra said: I’m not saying he’s not a great….. I was just making a comparison to Jones. I know all about him and his career. I’ve partied with him. He’s one of my favorites. He created 155 and opened the door for the smaller guys. His victory over Hughes was top 10 in mma history knox. I thought he beat GSP in their first matchup. He’s an icon and a legend. But his record pales in comparison to the guys in conversation for best ever. As great as he was, he doesn’t belong in that conversation. I’m friends with a handful of his friends. They all said the same thing- he would’ve been the best ever if would’ve had his head on straight for more than a couple years at a time. They all insist that he choked on his silver spoon from time to time It's true He didn't train seriously enough toward the back half of his career and needed purse money which is why he hung around too long and his legacy suffered for it But I have heard from the guys who know him and have trained w him in the past...everyone says he was one of the most gifted natural bjj talents ever Some guys just aren't cut out to be superstars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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