All_Pro_Bills Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 This Musk story, which isn't much of a story when examined, follows the standard process of how the establishment attacks anyone that defies or threatens their interests. It's all dependent on how many rote "thinkers" they get engaged to support it all. The common thread is they all start with a lie that is transformed to truth by designed repetition. Everyone should understand by now that anyone that defies the official narrative is helping <insert bad guy name here> by refusing to go along with one lunacy or another. But choose a side, our side, the good guys or the bad guys. There's no other option. Love it or leave it. My country right or wrong. You get the idea. You're absolutely discouraged from engaging in logical or reasoned thinking that might cause you to draw your own conclusions outside of those being generated by various think tanks, for profit entities and their supporters, or various government actors, and the standard cast of mainstream and social media grifters that always back up the story. For gigles add in the usual characters here on PPP that are ready and willing to pile on and when the bell rings as they all bark right on queue. 1 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Have the libs resorted to calling him "worse than Hitler" yet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Doc said: Have the libs resorted to calling him "worse than Hitler" yet? 👆🤡👇 On 2/15/2022 at 11:22 AM, Doc said: Worse than Watergate, 9/11, WWII and January 6th combined. And look at this gem: On 10/16/2012 at 10:12 PM, Doc said: Was Watergate politicized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 22 hours ago, B-Man said: Disneyworld ?? He can meet the Fed Faux Nazis there that we saw the other day for the opening of Naziland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Tenhigh said: The request to turn stsrlink on for the drone attack was late 2022 or early 2023, right? But the military contract, which we don't know the terms of, wasn't even signed until maybe Q2 2023, based on the article you posted. In light of this and your other article posting how very clear Musk has been about using Starlink, I have to ask again, what is the discussion even about? The first link noted funding from a "US Foreign aid" source and donors. We're presumalby talking millions per month so It's fair to assume there was a contract. I don't believe the foreign aid and the donors just threw monet at him with no conditions. Perhaps, the book coming out next week will shed more light. Edited September 9, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: Have the libs resorted to calling him "worse than Hitler" yet? Wow. From links to the fact that Musk signed military contracts to Nazis. You wanna diagram that regression and cite where "libs' suggest it? 6 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: t's all dependent on how many rote "thinkers" they get engaged to support it all. The common thread is they all start with a lie that is transformed to truth by designed repetition. sounds more like election denying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: obedient 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: programming Project much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Doc said: Have the libs resorted to calling him "worse than Hitler" yet? The narrative shift on Musk has been one of the most poignant examples of how obedient the left is to programming. he was a left icon until he acted like a moderate a few times and said the other side shouldn’t be censored. now he’s an enemy of msm and he’s getting investigated by the weaponized fed relentlessly 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 Well reasoned piece. The full Salon article https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/musk-starlink-and-hypocrisy-elons-benedict-arnold-moment-shows-us-cant-have-it-both-ways/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Well reasoned piece. The full Salon article https://www.salon.com/2023/09/08/musk-starlink-and-hypocrisy-elons-benedict-arnold-moment-shows-us-cant-have-it-both-ways/ Deliberately jumbled timeline to fit a narrative - fooled again, mind controlled again keep at it red fake doc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: You're absolutely discouraged from engaging in logical or reasoned thinking that might cause you to draw your own conclusions outside of those being generated by various think tanks, for profit entities and their supporters, or various government actors, and the standard cast of mainstream and social media grifters that always back up the story. Nope, the story came out of a pre release of a Musk authorized biography. Apparently there are emails between a Ukrainian diplomat and he concerning the incident. This will be interesting to read. I doubt we will ever know the strings attached to the financial aid provided to Musk from US foreign aid agency and donors or the conditions contracted with the Pentagon, thus we don't know if he'll pull this shite again. But to claim we are basing our deep concerns on biased media or unreliable sources is bs. Musk has already corroborated some of it albeit with a difference in wording between "turned off" and didn't turn on...The distinction is important, in part to show whether Musk is truthful but more importantly, did he stop a service Ukraine was expecting (?entitled to) from the arrangement. Edited September 9, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) More detail here from the European (British) paper https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/08/elon-musk-committed-evil-starlink-order-ukraine CNN on Thursday quoted an excerpt from the biography Elon Musk by Walter Isaacson, which described how armed submarine drones were approaching a Russian fleet near the Crimean coast when they “lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly”. The biography, due out on Tuesday, alleges Musk ordered Starlink engineers to turn off the service in the area of the attack because of his concern that Vladimir Putin would respond with nuclear weapons to a Ukrainian attack on Russian-occupied Crimea. Also on Friday, Ukrainian deputy prime minister Mykhailo Fedorov told the Financial Times that Musk shared with Isaacson confidential exchanges about military access to Starlink without permission from Fedorov. “It’s not very pretty,” Fedorov told the Financial Times. “I’ve never shown or talked about our correspondence publicly.” Edited September 9, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 This thread in a nutshell https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/13/liberal-bigots-hatred-of-elon-musk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 21 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: This thread in a nutshell https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/dec/13/liberal-bigots-hatred-of-elon-musk/ Written by R Emitt Tyrell author of "The D🤣eath of Liberalism". Sure that's happening...While MAGA implodes. I don't despise him for his money. Like the hack wrote, there are quite a few multi billionaires. I'd like them taxed more aggressively but I don't resent them for their success. Along as they didn't break the law getting there. The reason I despise him is that he has decided to take sides in geopolitical affairs. Through twitter and starlink. And he seems to choose authoritarian sides more often than not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Written by R Emitt Tyrell author of "The D🤣eath of Liberalism". Sure that's happening...While MAGA implodes. I don't despise him for his money. Like the hack wrote, there are quite a few multi billionaires. I'd like them taxed more aggressively but I don't resent them for their success. Along as they didn't break the law getting there. The reason I despise him is that he has decided to take sides in geopolitical affairs. Through twitter and starlink. And he seems to choose authoritarian sides more often than not... neutrality is only looks like taking sides when your vision is clouded by bigotry and or bias. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Wow. From links to the fact that Musk signed military contracts to Nazis. You wanna diagram that regression and cite where "libs' suggest it? You mean the Ukrainians, who have actual Nazis fighting for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The narrative shift on Musk has been one of the most poignant examples of how obedient the left is to programming. he was a left icon until he acted like a moderate a few times and said the other side shouldn’t be censored. now he’s an enemy of msm and he’s getting investigated by the weaponized fed relentlessly He took away their ability to completely control the narrative. His takeover of Twitter has been massive in disrupting the propaganda wing of the left/MIC. That won’t go unpunished. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Doc said: You mean the Ukrainians, who have actual Nazis fighting for them? diagram the relevancy of that one too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Who Are The Neo-Nazis Fighting For Russia In Ukraine? The video, published in December 2020, showed two nattily dressed Russian men -- waistcoats, pocket squares, silk ties – sipping American whiskey in brandy snifters and discussing killing Ukrainians. "I'm a Nazi. I’m a Nazi,” said one of the men, Aleksei Milchakov, who was the main focus of the video published on a Russian nationalist YouTube channel. “I'm not going to go deep and say, I’m a nationalist, a patriot, an imperialist, and so forth. I’ll say it outright: I’m a Nazi. Aside from being a notorious, avowed Nazi known for killing a puppy and posting bragging photographs about it on social media, Milchakov is the head of a Russian paramilitary group known as Rusich, which openly embraces Nazi symbolism and radical racist ideologies. The group, and Milchakov himself, have been credibly linked to atrocities in Ukraine and in Syria. https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-neo-nazis-fighting-ukraine/31871760.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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