Watching since 1964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Wrong. Josh wanted him back last year and even openly campaigned for the route trees that other WR couldn’t run (from 2021) be brought back for Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I hope we get Flowers or Addison to fill that slot spot. Such a huge need on this team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Beas was a shadow of his former self last year. 2 games, 2 receptions, no first downs. He's not even worth taking a flyer on. Let a team that's less cash-strapped, not in contention, etc. give him a chance before we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 16 hours ago, BananaB said: Did Gabe and Lil Dirty even combine the 80+ receptions we lost when Beas left. Sure the yards and TDs went down but the completions helps you move chains. McKittrick had 42 catches for 27 FD's, Gabe had 48 catches for 35 FD's. Beas has 82 catches for only 34 FD's. So 8 more receptions, 28 more FD's (almost double), and both way higher FD %age. They more than made up for the "loss" of Beasley. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 31 minutes ago, General Soreness said: Wrong. Josh wanted him back last year and even openly campaigned for the route trees that other WR couldn’t run (from 2021) be brought back for Beasley. Zero interest in free agency last year. Signs with the Bucs practice squad in September. Retires in October. Bills wanted him so bad that they signed him in week 15 to their practice squad. He caught what like six passes? Zero interest in free agency this year. The Bills gave his number to Deonte Harty. So where is the demand for his services? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Every receiver on this team would play better if Josh had more blocking. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: McKittrick had 42 catches for 27 FD's, Gabe had 48 catches for 35 FD's. Beas has 82 catches for only 34 FD's. So 8 more receptions, 28 more FD's (almost double), and both way higher FD %age. They more than made up for the "loss" of Beasley. McKittrick does not play for Bills. However how many more drops did MCKENZIE and Davis have? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Zero interest from teams last year? You know this how? He was very selective he said. Him not getting playing time and/or targets was on Dorsey, just like the lack of targets Cook, Hines & Knox got. Don’t pat Beane on the head for his FA choices this off-season just yet. 2022…Saffold, OJ Howard, Crowder, Quessenberry, Settle… The oft injured Phillips was so-so. In the win column Jones, Lawson …maybe other minor ones I’m not mentioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, General Soreness said: Zero interest from teams last year? You know this how? He was very selective he said. Him not getting playing time and/or targets was on Dorsey, just like the lack of targets Cook, Hines & Knox got. How do you know he is telling the truth? We can both play that game. "Selective" is what people/agents say when there is no interest. If anybody offered him real money he would have gone. Anyone actually think Tremaine wants to go to the Bears? The point is that, other than practice squad type deals, no one was offering Beasley anything of any significance, otherwise he would have went there. He has a lot to say, but he is still sitting on his couch like us. The league is 48 hours away from being infused with probably like 50-75 guys at the position who are younger with upside. He's toast. If anybody wanted him, he'd be signed by now. If Josh really wanted him, he would be back here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I think there’s been a few other receivers Josh wanted here right? …but they’re not. Beasley wasn’t/isn’t going anywhere where there wasn’t a real shot at a SB. He wasn’t/isn’t going anywhere where his family didn't want to be. Then those competitive teams have to have a need…obviously. Regardless, I’d rather Cook line up in the slot often or out wide and get way more targets. Arguably the most explosive player we have. We’ll see if they use him as an important piece to make this offense high powered like it needs to be. It seems Shakir can play too. The oft injured Harty…hopefully he can stay on the field and do great things. So many on this board were adamant we didn’t need Beasley in 2022. How’d that work out? Since they’ve chosen to replace him again in 2023, it doesn’t mean he can’t play, or that the new slot/slots become almost a guaranteed 1st down on 3rd down, either. For the teams’ sake, I hope they find someone that exceeds Beasley’s past production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: On the current Bills team? In terms of demonstrated performance, Yes. But look at who he'd be beating out - -Harty, who had 2 whole targets last season, and who had 36 receptions for 570 yds in 2021 while playing 13 games -Shakir, who, contrary to the opinion of some fans that he was being "coddled" or unacountably kept off the field for no reason, was given chances to show what he could do and who showed he couldn't read a zone D reliably and get open last season. Some people think he may lack the necessary quickness as a slot, I dunno. -Sherfield, last year by far his best, 30 receptions for 417 yds in 17 games It's possible any or all of them might take a step in this offense with Josh throwing to them, but it's also possible they won't be able to take that step Just as McKenzie wasn't able to take as much of a step as the Bills (and fans) wanted from him. McKenzie still had more receptions and more 1D than any of the current slot candidates. That's a whole lotta words to basically say "We don't know what we have yet" Demonstrated performance from 2 years ago is a wild concept. Cole Beasley in 2023 is not likely the same player he was in 2020 and early 2021. That's like saying Shady McCoy should be brought back because he demonstrated that he played better a few years back than Cook and Harris did last year. If we want to talk most recent performance, Did Cole Beasley make the Buffalo Bills a better football team last year? What was his impact? My short form answers to those questions are "No and NONE". Also, honest question here on something you bring up about Shakir. I was under the impression that the book on him was actually the opposite. He excelled against zone but struggled getting separation against man coverage? I actually though most of his played he did make last year were against zone concepts. Is there some information that you have read/seen that contradicts that and if so, could you either link or let me know where to find that info? Not calling you out or anything...I would just be interested in seeing what you are with Shakir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 Getting good now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Getting good now. he’s solid I’m pro bease but he was hurt his final year and just not up to speed last year. I say go with some young blood but I wouldn’t mind him being on PS around the team and ready to be brought up if an injury happens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, noacls said: McKittrick does not play for Bills. However how many more drops did MCKENZIE and Davis have? Beas had two receptions for no first downs last year. Depending on the list you look at, Davis had 7, Diggs had 6, Knox had 5, and McKittrick (popular nickname, from an allegedly drunken post when he joined the team) had 4. What's your point, that Beas was valuable because he had less catches than they had drops? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 All of tweeting, rapping, Covid crap aside, Beasley was a great slot receiver in his prime. Unfortunately, he's no longer in his prime. He had some opportunities with the Bucs and Bills last season and they didn't amount to much. I suspect he would be playing this upcoming season (and/or will play) if he gets a decent offer from a team. He may have earned enough money so far in his career that it's not worth putting his body on the line for league minimum or practice squad money, but I really don't know his personal situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 1 hour ago, General Soreness said: I think there’s been a few other receivers Josh wanted here right? …but they’re not. Beasley wasn’t/isn’t going anywhere where there wasn’t a real shot at a SB. He wasn’t/isn’t going anywhere where his family didn't want to be. Then those competitive teams have to have a need…obviously. So many on this board were adamant we didn’t need Beasley in 2022. How’d that work out? Since they’ve chosen to replace him again in 2023, it doesn’t mean he can’t play, or that the new slot/slots become almost a guaranteed 1st down on 3rd down, either. I think it's obvious that they could get Beasley signed to another league minimum deal and if Josh really wanted it that bad, I am sure they would make it happen. but he's at home. You're telling me, if some bottom feeding team like the Bears, Falcons, Colts, Texans, offered him the Darius Slayton 2/12 million contract he would turn it down? That's a slightly below average salary. I highly doubt he would turn that down and highly doubt anyone would offer him that. He would sprint to sign that contract, unless he really wants to retire. Also, I agree that the fact that they have chosen to replace him again doesn't mean he can't play....It means they don't want him...which is my point. And if no one wants him, it means he can't play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 19 hours ago, Yantha said: Cole Beasley is a POS. Never liked him. Yea - its really difficult to like a guy who sucked it up and played with a broken bone in his leg during the post season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watching since 1964 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 …and a herniated disk in his neck this article says. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/despite-a-reduced-role-in-his-return-to-bills-cole-beasley-is-open-to-coming/article_cf5fdbc2-a3e0-11ed-ba44-3790f5087316.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, General Soreness said: …and a herniated disk in his neck this article says. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/despite-a-reduced-role-in-his-return-to-bills-cole-beasley-is-open-to-coming/article_cf5fdbc2-a3e0-11ed-ba44-3790f5087316.html Yep they want to fight the guy bc of their personal feelings and can’t just watch him for what he did on the field. Then he chirps back and he’s an a hole just leave him alone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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