BillsFanNC Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Based on what? Donald Trump did not move to have National Guard troops at the capital for January 6 that did not happen You really believe that he’s sitting there, losing his ***** because he’s about ready to get kicked out of office and you think that he’s gonna go through the extra step of protecting the institution of voting Come on man The documents prove it you friggin moron. This is how the NG process works for anything e.g. natural disasters. Local authorities must first request the NG. The POTUS/DOD then authorizes it and troops are deployed This IS THE LAW. The Trump DOD informally reached out to the DC local authorities and said hey are you going to request troops for J6? It sounds like things might get dicey. These attempts by DOD were rejected. It's in WRITING. If the DC local authorities made the request and Trump didn't authorize it then you'd have a point. But you dont have a point because that's not what happened. This is why there's no discussion to be had with you morons. You live under a green sky completely out of touch with reality. Edited August 3, 2023 by BillsFanNC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: The documents prove it you friggin moron. This is how the NG process works for anything e.g. natural disasters. Local authorities must first request the NG. The POTUS/DOD then authorizes it and troops are deployed This IS THE LAW. The Trump DOD informally reached out to the DC local authorities and said hey are you going to request troops for J6? It sounds like things might get dicey. These attempts by DOD were rejected. It's in WRITING. If the DC local authorities made the request and Trump didn't authorize it then you'd have a point. But you dont have a point because that's not what happened. This is why there's no discussion to be had with you morons. You live under a green sky completely out of touch with reality. https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/trump-did-not-order-troops-before-capitol-riot-christoper-miller/amp/ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: https://nypost.com/2022/07/27/trump-did-not-order-troops-before-capitol-riot-christoper-miller/amp/ You are an unequivocal moron. There was no order from Trump because... THE POTUS HAS NO AUTHORITY TO UNILATERALLY MOBILIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD ON HIS OWN. But since you want to take the word of former secretary of defense Miller, laundered and cherry picked by the J6 committee, here he is in his own unedited words. https://www.newsweek.com/chris-miller-donald-trump-deploy-jan-6-troops-capitol-riot-contradiction-testimony-1728207 A clip of Miller on Sean Hannity's show has also gone viral showing him say that he testified under oath that Trump authorized 20,000 troops. It is not clear on what date Miller was on Hannity's show, however. While on the show, former Defense Department official Kash Patel said: "Mr. Trump unequivocally authorized up to 20,000 National Guardsmen and women for us to utilize. Hannity asked: "Let me be very clear. Both of you said this under oath, under the threat of perjury, to the committee? Miller replied: "Absolutely Sean and to be clear, Kash brought it up best. The meeting was one of the most serious kinds of heavy meetings I have been in. "It was about a foreign threat that was directed towards the United States. Obviously, we can't talk to you about that for fear of ending up in jail. He continued: "The president, as we are leaving, says one more thing and we all sat back down and we discussed what was going on on January 6. "The president was doing exactly what I expect the Commander in Chief to do, he was looking at the broad threats against the United States and he brought this up on his own, we did not bring it up." Edited August 3, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) Fanone isn't a crisis actor How dare Julie Kelly make such an outrageous accusation! Note how even the CNN talking head thinks this is totally ridiculous. @Kemp Edited August 3, 2023 by BillsFanNC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Fanone isn't a crisis actor How dare Julie Kelly make such an outrageous accusation! Note how even the CNN talking head thinks this is totally ridiculous. @Kemp Is anyone from the DOJ going to investigate that guy for an obvious threat against life of the former President? I’m guessing not. Because, it’s Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Fanone isn't a crisis actor How dare Julie Kelly make such an outrageous accusation! Note how even the CNN talking head thinks this is totally ridiculous. @Kemp Dude couldn't even read the script without mumbling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said: You are an unequivocal moron. There was no order from Trump because... THE POTUS HAS NO AUTHORITY TO UNILATERALLY MOBILIZE THE NATIONAL GUARD ON HIS OWN. But since you want to take the word of former secretary of defense Miller, laundered and cherry picked by the J6 committee, here he is in his own unedited words. https://www.newsweek.com/chris-miller-donald-trump-deploy-jan-6-troops-capitol-riot-contradiction-testimony-1728207 A clip of Miller on Sean Hannity's show has also gone viral showing him say that he testified under oath that Trump authorized 20,000 troops. It is not clear on what date Miller was on Hannity's show, however. While on the show, former Defense Department official Kash Patel said: "Mr. Trump unequivocally authorized up to 20,000 National Guardsmen and women for us to utilize. Hannity asked: "Let me be very clear. Both of you said this under oath, under the threat of perjury, to the committee? Miller replied: "Absolutely Sean and to be clear, Kash brought it up best. The meeting was one of the most serious kinds of heavy meetings I have been in. "It was about a foreign threat that was directed towards the United States. Obviously, we can't talk to you about that for fear of ending up in jail. He continued: "The president, as we are leaving, says one more thing and we all sat back down and we discussed what was going on on January 6. "The president was doing exactly what I expect the Commander in Chief to do, he was looking at the broad threats against the United States and he brought this up on his own, we did not bring it up." This has already been explained you gerbil there’s a difference between going in front of a committee and going under oath where you could literally go to jail and going on the Sean Hannity show and saying something different where you don’t get held to any account there have been Republicans that I’ve laughed about the fact that they went on TV and lied so forgive me if I don’t take anything that goes on the Sean Hannity show and give two ***** about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: This has already been explained you gerbil there’s a difference between going in front of a committee and going under oath where you could literally go to jail and going on the Sean Hannity show and saying something different where you don’t get held to any account there have been Republicans that I’ve laughed about the fact that they went on TV and lied so forgive me if I don’t take anything that goes on the Sean Hannity show and give two ***** about it Do you ever listen to yourself? At all? It’s your position that our Capital sits wide open to an attack by a mob (even at a time when BOTH houses of Congress are there assembled) but for somebody up the street making a phone call? For all of our sakes we sure as heck better hope not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This has already been explained you gerbil there’s a difference between going in front of a committee and going under oath where you could literally go to jail and going on the Sean Hannity show and saying something different where you don’t get held to any account there have been Republicans that I’ve laughed about the fact that they went on TV and lied so forgive me if I don’t take anything that goes on the Sean Hannity show and give two ***** about it Being under oath isn't a prerequisite for telling the truth nor does being under oath inhibit a witness from lying under certain circumstances. Public statements can be used to help or hinder a case or situation. The main problem is there was no mobilization of troops so whether or not it was discussed is irrelevant. It leaves you with a charge of conspiracy to commit an illegal act of mobilizing national guard troop without committing the act itself. It's BS. Hypothetically if somebody said to another person, "how about you and I go down to the local bank and rob the place?" And the other party responds "no" then there is no robbery. So do you want to charge everyone that discusses something that might be illegal in some interpretation of the law, where no action is taken, with a conspiracy charge under which they can be prosecuted? No, that's why in real life legal situations you see conspiracy charges only as an additional supplemental charge of an indictment for the actual commission of a crime. Unless they've got an axe to grind against the suspect they're trying to nail on anything no matter how flimsy the case. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: This has already been explained you gerbil there’s a difference between going in front of a committee and going under oath where you could literally go to jail and going on the Sean Hannity show and saying something different where you don’t get held to any account there have been Republicans that I’ve laughed about the fact that they went on TV and lied so forgive me if I don’t take anything that goes on the Sean Hannity show and give two ***** about it I expect they will raid Kash Patel's house any day now for lying under oath then. Trump authorized it. The local officals never made the request. You are a lost cause. https://archive.org/details/january-6th-committee-witness-testimony-20211209-kashyap-pramod-patel/page/42/mode/1up?q=Guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unforgiven Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 My gut tells me the election was rigged, just based on the fact that those four states in sync closed the vote counting down early. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 8 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: I expect they will raid Kash Patel's house any day now for lying under oath then. Trump authorized it. The local officals never made the request. You are a lost cause. https://archive.org/details/january-6th-committee-witness-testimony-20211209-kashyap-pramod-patel/page/42/mode/1up?q=Guard No comment @John from Riverside? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 Trump never authorized it And why would he? That would kill his riot before it starts For chrissake, he was taking down barriers, so that armed cultists could be in his rally 1 hour ago, Unforgiven said: My gut tells me the election was rigged, just based on the fact that those four states in sync closed the vote counting down early. Forget the fact that countless court cases say different a lot of them in front of trump appointed judges Forget the fact that countless recounts say different Forget the fact that Republicans are in charge of the states and question 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Trump never authorized it And why would he? That would kill his riot before it starts For chrissake, he was taking down barriers, so that armed cultists could be in his rally Forget the fact that countless court cases say different a lot of them in front of trump appointed judges Forget the fact that countless recounts say different Forget the fact that Republicans are in charge of the states and question Are you daft? The testimony UNDER OATH THAT YOU DEMANDED.... Says that Trump DID authorize it. It's in the friggin testimony under oath that you hold dear. Dude seek help immediately. Until then. ***** off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 Fanone isn't a crisis actor! Bodycam video hidden by J6 committee suggests otherwise. @Kemp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Capitol Hill Police Chief ?. . . . . . . . . . . what would he have to do with it ? Tucker’s Hidden FOX News Interview – Former Capitol Hill Police Chief Calls Jan 6 “a Cover-Up” – They Were Hiding Intelligence by Jim Hoft Earlier today The National Pulse released exclusive footage of Tucker Carlson’s final interview before he was fired from FOX News. Carlson spoke with former Capitol Hill Police Chief Steven Sund about the events on January 6, 2021. During their discussion Sund called January 6 a “cover-up” by top government officials for their actions that day. Sund says Nancy Pelosi and General Mark Milley had information to suggest problems on Capitol Hill yet refused to share the information and refused to call in the National Guard before January 6th and during the early rioting that day. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/tuckers-hidden-fox-news-interview-former-capitol-hill/ . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFanNC Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 17 hours ago, Unforgiven said: My gut tells me the election was rigged, just based on the fact that those four states in sync closed the vote counting down early. What do you mean? That happens all the time. This also happened in the very same election, and the first in US history, where more votes were counted by mail than in person. Even when the dude they kneel before, the God of Science, Fauci, said himself there was no reason to not have in person voting. Strange how that worked out, isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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