Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share Posted February 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, T&C said: Who absorbs all of this "money"? The school, the county, the state, or the entire country? It just magically disappears! 🪄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It just magically disappears! 🪄 I’m thinking @House should be a person of interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Right before my HS graduation, my grandfather offered to buy me a truck, pay for all my tools, and pay my tuition to attend trade school/training program of my choosing. I declined. I often regret that decision. One of the other dads at our kid’s school went into serious debt to get thru law school. By the time we got to be friends he was instead doing woodworking in his garage. And very happy about it. How is a kid supposed to know? You just hope you find the right fit for you one day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&C Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: It just magically disappears! 🪄 I'm sure... and I can't really post my thoughts in this forum, but congrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, T&C said: I'm sure... and I can't really post my thoughts in this forum, but congrats. Cool man 👍. Like I said, I paid off ~85K of my student loans as an educator often working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet for my family. Never once missed or made a late payment. So I don’t feel guilty at all about having my loans forgiven. I feel like, for once, middle class people like myself are getting a break. I also could find other ways to use my PhD and make more money, but I choose to work in the trenches of the public schools because that’s where I can make my greatest difference for kids and families as a psychologist. Not that I feel the need to defend myself here, but ya’know… Edited February 24, 2023 by Johnny Hammersticks Spelling 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I feel very fortunate in that hubby had half academic scholarship and a very employable degree straight out of college (Electrical engineering). From there his career grew and eventually due to stock options we were able to fund our kids educations without loans. Being reimbursed tuition costs Im thinking damn...I mean I would have never thought a program like that would ever exist. Having said that the educations they received were worth the money so Im not mad having paid it. But Super fortunate not to have had loans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Augie said: I was at a luncheon a while back and the speaker was from the economic development commission. He talked about trying to attract new businesses to the area, and the obstacles they faced. He said the companies they were trying to attract didn’t need more young people with college degrees, they needed welders and plumbers. You can make a fine living if you have mastered a trade. I've told one of my nephews who was undecided what he wanted to do, just drive by a construction site and look at the vehicles. A lot of newer pickups, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Cool man 👍. Like I said, I paid off ~85K of my student loans as an educator often working 2-3 jobs to make ends meet for my family. Never once missed or made a late payment. So I don’t feel guilty at all about having my loans forgiven. I feel like, for once, middle class people like myself are getting a break. I also could find other ways to use my PhD and make more money, but I choose to work in the trenches of the public schools because that’s where I can make my greatest difference for kids and families as a psychologist. Not that I feel the need to defend myself here, but ya’know… DOCTOR Johnny Hammersticks. Psychologist. That is awesome! In the schools? I have seen your kind in my kids tenure. BRAVO and Thank you for what you do hermano. !~!~! A Dr John Toews literally helped save my family due to issues with my daughter who is autistic. back in 1987 they called it "Pervasive Developmental Disorder" As a school anecdotal story for you will appreciate. my daughter began special ed in the public schools. And as you well know every 3 years there is a broad comprehensive consult and reassessment of test scores relating to her IEP. (her educational plan) Living here ended up being in a vicinity with leading research into autism education. "Brain Pathways" was a program where by a series of listening and physical exercise on a yoga mat (example the crawling movement) the attempt it to create these brain pathways to increase acumen I guess? What Im trying to say is after having taken this course in middle school for her tri annual review it was revealed that my daughters test score for IQ had gone up 25 points. Which at the time was considered freaking shocking frankly. In the best way 🙂 m Edited February 24, 2023 by muppy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Just Jack said: I've told one of my nephews who was undecided what he wanted to do, just drive by a construction site and look at the vehicles. A lot of newer pickups, etc. I think there is more than one way to interpret that observation. I mean, drive by a military base and check out the 27% APR enlisted car show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 'Don't worry about how valuable an Ivy League degree is! It's too expensive and you should become a plumber or welder instead.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: 'Don't worry about how valuable an Ivy League degree is! It's too expensive and you should become a plumber or welder instead.' How many kids can realistically get ahold of an H bomb? There’s a point to be made but it’s already been made here without the silly absurdities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Personally I think loan forgiveness is complete Bullschit. Thanks for raising the cost of living so you can buy a new car or go on a vacation. Congratulations! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, LeviF said: How many kids can realistically get ahold of an H bomb? There’s a point to be made but it’s already been made here without the silly absurdities. You can't raise them believing it and then not expect them to try. You also can't pretend that 'trades' aren't code spoken by people who don't understand manual labor. 'We need more welders and HVAC techs' is a rhetorical device, it's not meaningful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You can't raise them believing it and then not expect them to try. You also can't pretend that 'trades' aren't code spoken by people who don't understand manual labor. 'We need more welders and HVAC techs' is a rhetorical device, it's not meaningful. That’s a valid point that can be made without pretending everyone deserves or is capable of completing an Ivy League education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 On 2/21/2023 at 4:11 PM, LeviF said: All seven years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: You can't raise them believing it and then not expect them to try. You also can't pretend that 'trades' aren't code spoken by people who don't understand manual labor. 'We need more welders and HVAC techs' is a rhetorical device, it's not meaningful. Who cares about codes and stigma? Money talks. $100k a year in skilled trade with a highschool diploma has greater spending power than a $65k a year white collar gig with a liberal arts degree. We need to stop telling kids "if you don't go to college you end up like..." and start educating them on the paths available and what they mean lifestyle wise. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jauronimo said: Who cares about codes and stigma? Money talks. $100k a year in skilled trade with a highschool diploma has greater spending power than a $65k a year white collar gig with a liberal arts degree. We need to stop telling kids "if you don't go to college you end up like..." and start educating them on the paths available and what they mean lifestyle wise. I am neither a plumber nor a welder but I am fairly certain you don't make $100k/yr at either without significant apprenticeships, coursework, accreditations etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted February 24, 2023 Author Share Posted February 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Westside said: Personally I think loan forgiveness is complete Bullschit. Thanks for raising the cost of living so you can buy a new car or go on a vacation. Congratulations! Wow, okay man. Thanks for being an a-hole. Have a wonderful day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Johnny Hammersticks said: Wow, okay man. Thanks for being an a-hole. Have a wonderful day. I'm surprised it took 3 pages. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 @Johnny Hammerstickssorry for taking your thread off topic, it was not my intention sincere congratulations on your loan forgiveness 👍 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.