leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Yes, we'd all rather be arguing with dumbfks than going to dinner parties, eating at great restaurants with friends, skiing some of the best terrain in N America and snowmobiling around Yellowstone. Meanwhile, only a million or so Americans have died. Party on Garth! How life works, indeed. I find this take interesting. On the one hand we have Trump dealing with a crisis, working with private industry/government to develop a solution to an evolving problem. We have most states completely unprepared to deal with this particular type of problem, though it was predictable long before it commenced. Trump brings together the public/private sector, eliminates the roadblocks and hurdles that are in the way, routinely holds press conferences to update citizens and knock down confusion, and ultimately delivers the vaccines we had been told just a few months earlier would likely save the world. On the other hand, social-justice minded democrats are routinely found violating the protocols they’ve established, encouraging (or refusing to discourage) mass gatherings that contribute directly to the virus spreading like wildfire, and said gatherings often resulting in the virus returning to what were declared to be high risk neighborhoods. Ultimately, Kamala Harris spreads vax misinformation, leading to even more confusion amongst people at greatest risk, and shortly after taking office, Biden boots COVID management from his desk back to the states. Meanwhile, the “VAX VAX BOOST to save your fellow man!” mantra gets reimagined and the narrative changes to focusing on people who have received at least one shot. Finally, we see an increase in year over year COVID death counts on a Biden watch in spite of him walking in after virtually all of the solutions were addressed. Give me the crazy bankrupt guy who solves problems over the career bureaucrat who knows the best thing to do is make it someone else’s problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: Hopefully masked up for the run. I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: No you really don't understand. Get a book on medical statistics and come back with a cogent argument I’m honestly sorry you’re not feeling well. But somehow you’ve convinced yourself that you caught Covid at church, and that you must’ve caught it from an unvaccinated person? How you know either of those to be true is beyond me. You apparently found your own personal Patient Zero. I hope you feel better. Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I find this take interesting. On the one hand we have Trump dealing with a crisis, working with private industry/government to develop a solution to an evolving problem. We have most states completely unprepared to deal with this particular type of problem, though it was predictable long before it commenced. Trump brings together the public/private sector, eliminates the roadblocks and hurdles that are in the way, routinely holds press conferences to update citizens and knock down confusion, and ultimately delivers the vaccines we had been told just a few months earlier would likely save the world. On the other hand, social-justice minded democrats are routinely found violating the protocols they’ve established, encouraging (or refusing to discourage) mass gatherings that contribute directly to the virus spreading like wildfire, and said gatherings often resulting in the virus returning to what were declared to be high risk neighborhoods. Ultimately, Kamala Harris spreads vax misinformation, leading to even more confusion amongst people at greatest risk, and shortly after taking office, Biden boots COVID management from his desk back to the states. Meanwhile, the “VAX VAX BOOST to save your fellow man!” mantra gets reimagined and the narrative changes to focusing on people who have received at least one shot. Finally, we see an increase in year over year COVID death counts on a Biden watch in spite of him walking in after virtually all of the solutions were addressed. Give me the crazy bankrupt guy who solves problems over the career bureaucrat who knows the best thing to do is make it someone else’s problem. give me the infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists who know science over the "own research" dummies. 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m honestly sorry you’re not feeling well. But somehow you’ve convinced yourself that you caught Covid at church, and that you must’ve caught it from an unvaccinated person? How you know either of those to be true is beyond me. You apparently found your own personal Patient Zero. I hope you feel better. Seriously I think it's very likely, I got it at church. Could have been elsewhere. Could have been from a vaxed individual. Doesn't change the fact that early adoption of universal vaccination would have made the event less likely. kapisch? Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness. How much do you bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: How much do you bench? it's more about the legs dude. brings up an interesting side note. The gym I go to has the only inner and outer thigh machine in the women's section. I have to ask permission to go in there to use it because some MAGA women feel uncomfortable by men being in there. on the other hand, Yoga classes with predominantly women never seem to have a problem. go figure. Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness. That might be because the vaccine does not prevent you getting the virus or spreading the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 40 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: OR (more likely) the anti vax holdouts have enabled the virus to become indigenous and now, even with vaccination on a massive scale, we're all still at risk and some of those people still die. (esp the old and infirm). Many vax holdouts were blacks, thanks in large part to what Kamala Harris and others said about not trusting the vaccine (because they knew it was coming out soon and if it came out before the election, like it should have, would have ensured Trump won). 34 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: It's a worldwide pandemic by definition. The time to eradicate it (like polio was til dummies stopped getting vaxed) was early. But by all means wring your hands and say further mitigation attempts are worthless and ignore people who have spent their lives studying infectious diseases and spec virology. "do your own research". Eradicate it? LOL! With 16 billion doses given to everyone right at the start? Even now it's a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: give me the infectious disease specialist who know science of the "own research" dummies. Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. Edited January 20, 2023 by BillsFanNC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. No, he just knew that the masks and 6 feet apart were political ploys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, wnyguy said: That might be because the vaccine does not prevent you getting the virus or spreading the virus. yes, at this point adequately staffing hospitals is the main concern. do you wonder why so many have quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Just now, Doc said: No, he just knew that the masks and 6 feet apart were political ploys. Of course. MAGA comment was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. yes, outliers exist. let me guess. you're a drug rep... Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Of course. MAGA comment was sarcasm. I know. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: it's more about the legs dude. brings up an interesting side note. The gym I go to has the only inner and outer thigh machine in the women's section. I have to ask permission to go in there to use it because some MAGA women feel uncomfortable by men being in there. on the other hand, Yoga classes with predominantly women never seem to have a problem. go figure. Buy yourself a thigh master. Will decrease your exposure to MAGA. Everybody wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: yes, outliers exist. let me guess. you're a drug rep... Nope. I sell very expensive scientific research equipment. Spent many years in academic and corporate research. Extensive publications in peer reviewed journals. Many patents. Molecular biologist/immunologist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Buy yourself a thigh master. Will decrease your exposure to MAGA. Everybody wins. yoga's the better \option imo. Women there are better looking as well. 4 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Nope. I sell very expensive scientific research equipment. Spent many years in academic and corporate research. Extensive publications in peer reviewed journals. Many patents. Molecular biologist/immunologist. you missed/ are missing your chance to save the world. how do you feel about polio and measles vaxes? flu shots? Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: yoga's the better \option imo. Women there are better looking as well. There’s no shortage of objectifying women among your sort. That’s a joke. You put it on a tee. Doesn’t mean it’s a funny joke. I did some DDP yoga a few years back and never felt better. Need to find an age appropriate program that won’t have me creeping on women like you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: you missed/ are missing your chance to save the world. No, we have Fauci... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 minute ago, JDHillFan said: There’s no shortage of objectifying women among your sort. That’s a joke. You put it on a tee. Doesn’t mean it’s a funny joke. I did some DDP yoga a few years back and never felt better. Need to find an age appropriate program that won’t have me creeping on women like you. umm procreation and mate attraction are necessary conditions for human life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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