leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 4:34 AM, redtail hawk said: Yes, we'd all rather be arguing with dumbfks than going to dinner parties, eating at great restaurants with friends, skiing some of the best terrain in N America and snowmobiling around Yellowstone. Meanwhile, only a million or so Americans have died. Party on Garth! How life works, indeed. Expand I find this take interesting. On the one hand we have Trump dealing with a crisis, working with private industry/government to develop a solution to an evolving problem. We have most states completely unprepared to deal with this particular type of problem, though it was predictable long before it commenced. Trump brings together the public/private sector, eliminates the roadblocks and hurdles that are in the way, routinely holds press conferences to update citizens and knock down confusion, and ultimately delivers the vaccines we had been told just a few months earlier would likely save the world. On the other hand, social-justice minded democrats are routinely found violating the protocols they’ve established, encouraging (or refusing to discourage) mass gatherings that contribute directly to the virus spreading like wildfire, and said gatherings often resulting in the virus returning to what were declared to be high risk neighborhoods. Ultimately, Kamala Harris spreads vax misinformation, leading to even more confusion amongst people at greatest risk, and shortly after taking office, Biden boots COVID management from his desk back to the states. Meanwhile, the “VAX VAX BOOST to save your fellow man!” mantra gets reimagined and the narrative changes to focusing on people who have received at least one shot. Finally, we see an increase in year over year COVID death counts on a Biden watch in spite of him walking in after virtually all of the solutions were addressed. Give me the crazy bankrupt guy who solves problems over the career bureaucrat who knows the best thing to do is make it someone else’s problem.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:33 PM, JDHillFan said: Hopefully masked up for the run. Expand I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness.
SoCal Deek Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:22 PM, redtail hawk said: No you really don't understand. Get a book on medical statistics and come back with a cogent argument Expand I’m honestly sorry you’re not feeling well. But somehow you’ve convinced yourself that you caught Covid at church, and that you must’ve caught it from an unvaccinated person? How you know either of those to be true is beyond me. You apparently found your own personal Patient Zero. I hope you feel better. Seriously
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 2:34 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I find this take interesting. On the one hand we have Trump dealing with a crisis, working with private industry/government to develop a solution to an evolving problem. We have most states completely unprepared to deal with this particular type of problem, though it was predictable long before it commenced. Trump brings together the public/private sector, eliminates the roadblocks and hurdles that are in the way, routinely holds press conferences to update citizens and knock down confusion, and ultimately delivers the vaccines we had been told just a few months earlier would likely save the world. On the other hand, social-justice minded democrats are routinely found violating the protocols they’ve established, encouraging (or refusing to discourage) mass gatherings that contribute directly to the virus spreading like wildfire, and said gatherings often resulting in the virus returning to what were declared to be high risk neighborhoods. Ultimately, Kamala Harris spreads vax misinformation, leading to even more confusion amongst people at greatest risk, and shortly after taking office, Biden boots COVID management from his desk back to the states. Meanwhile, the “VAX VAX BOOST to save your fellow man!” mantra gets reimagined and the narrative changes to focusing on people who have received at least one shot. Finally, we see an increase in year over year COVID death counts on a Biden watch in spite of him walking in after virtually all of the solutions were addressed. Give me the crazy bankrupt guy who solves problems over the career bureaucrat who knows the best thing to do is make it someone else’s problem. Expand give me the infectious disease specialists and epidemiologists who know science over the "own research" dummies. On 1/20/2023 at 2:37 PM, SoCal Deek said: I’m honestly sorry you’re not feeling well. But somehow you’ve convinced yourself that you caught Covid at church, and that you must’ve caught it from an unvaccinated person? How you know either of those to be true is beyond me. You apparently found your own personal Patient Zero. I hope you feel better. Seriously Expand I think it's very likely, I got it at church. Could have been elsewhere. Could have been from a vaxed individual. Doesn't change the fact that early adoption of universal vaccination would have made the event less likely. kapisch? Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:36 PM, redtail hawk said: I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness. Expand How much do you bench?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 2:45 PM, JDHillFan said: How much do you bench? Expand it's more about the legs dude. brings up an interesting side note. The gym I go to has the only inner and outer thigh machine in the women's section. I have to ask permission to go in there to use it because some MAGA women feel uncomfortable by men being in there. on the other hand, Yoga classes with predominantly women never seem to have a problem. go figure. Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk
wnyguy Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:36 PM, redtail hawk said: I'd bet I'd still kick your ass. Good lord, unvaxed healthcare workers. In some parts of the country almost 50%. F'in craziness. Expand That might be because the vaccine does not prevent you getting the virus or spreading the virus.
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:02 PM, redtail hawk said: OR (more likely) the anti vax holdouts have enabled the virus to become indigenous and now, even with vaccination on a massive scale, we're all still at risk and some of those people still die. (esp the old and infirm). Expand Many vax holdouts were blacks, thanks in large part to what Kamala Harris and others said about not trusting the vaccine (because they knew it was coming out soon and if it came out before the election, like it should have, would have ensured Trump won). On 1/20/2023 at 2:08 PM, redtail hawk said: It's a worldwide pandemic by definition. The time to eradicate it (like polio was til dummies stopped getting vaxed) was early. But by all means wring your hands and say further mitigation attempts are worthless and ignore people who have spent their lives studying infectious diseases and spec virology. "do your own research". Expand Eradicate it? LOL! With 16 billion doses given to everyone right at the start? Even now it's a pipe dream.
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 2:38 PM, redtail hawk said: give me the infectious disease specialist who know science of the "own research" dummies. Expand Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. Edited January 20, 2023 by BillsFanNC
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:48 PM, BillsFanNC said: Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. Expand No, he just knew that the masks and 6 feet apart were political ploys.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:47 PM, wnyguy said: That might be because the vaccine does not prevent you getting the virus or spreading the virus. Expand yes, at this point adequately staffing hospitals is the main concern. do you wonder why so many have quit?
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:50 PM, Doc said: No, he just knew that the masks and 6 feet apart were political ploys. Expand Of course. MAGA comment was sarcasm.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 2:48 PM, BillsFanNC said: Here's an anecdote. During the height of the pandemic in 2020 I was still traveling and doing demos at universities and corporations that allowed it. As you'd expect during 2020 the hoops I needed to jump through were extensive. I visited researchers in a variety of fields...immunologists, molecular biologists, virologists etc. All of them masked and 6 ft when I arrived and through the whole demo. One researcher however who is at a prestigious university in the southeast and also department chair in infectious disease, greeted me without a mask and offered that I take mine off if I wanted. He must be MAGA. Expand yes, outliers exist. let me guess. you're a drug rep... Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:51 PM, BillsFanNC said: Of course. MAGA comment was sarcasm. Expand I know. Sorry.
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:46 PM, redtail hawk said: it's more about the legs dude. brings up an interesting side note. The gym I go to has the only inner and outer thigh machine in the women's section. I have to ask permission to go in there to use it because some MAGA women feel uncomfortable by men being in there. on the other hand, Yoga classes with predominantly women never seem to have a problem. go figure. Expand Buy yourself a thigh master. Will decrease your exposure to MAGA. Everybody wins.
BillsFanNC Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:52 PM, redtail hawk said: yes, outliers exist. let me guess. you're a drug rep... Expand Nope. I sell very expensive scientific research equipment. Spent many years in academic and corporate research. Extensive publications in peer reviewed journals. Many patents. Molecular biologist/immunologist. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/20/2023 at 2:57 PM, JDHillFan said: Buy yourself a thigh master. Will decrease your exposure to MAGA. Everybody wins. Expand yoga's the better \option imo. Women there are better looking as well. On 1/20/2023 at 2:58 PM, BillsFanNC said: Nope. I sell very expensive scientific research equipment. Spent many years in academic and corporate research. Extensive publications in peer reviewed journals. Many patents. Molecular biologist/immunologist. Expand you missed/ are missing your chance to save the world. how do you feel about polio and measles vaxes? flu shots? Edited January 20, 2023 by redtail hawk
JDHillFan Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:58 PM, redtail hawk said: yoga's the better \option imo. Women there are better looking as well. Expand There’s no shortage of objectifying women among your sort. That’s a joke. You put it on a tee. Doesn’t mean it’s a funny joke. I did some DDP yoga a few years back and never felt better. Need to find an age appropriate program that won’t have me creeping on women like you. 1
Doc Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 2:58 PM, redtail hawk said: you missed/ are missing your chance to save the world. Expand No, we have Fauci...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 3:03 PM, JDHillFan said: There’s no shortage of objectifying women among your sort. That’s a joke. You put it on a tee. Doesn’t mean it’s a funny joke. I did some DDP yoga a few years back and never felt better. Need to find an age appropriate program that won’t have me creeping on women like you. Expand umm procreation and mate attraction are necessary conditions for human life...
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