Biden clearly has dementia, you can admit that right? "Four more years....Pause"

[The Frankish Reich]

12 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I don’t know who James Holzhauer is, so I did a quick search. 
 

Turns out he’s an accomplished guy, the third highest earner in the history of Jeopardy.  
 

In this case—we can agree. Of the three..Biden beats Trump. Trump beats Clinton.  Of the three,  Clinton is James Holzhauer—accomplished, intelligent, capable and ultimately, third.  That’s nothing to sneeze at. 
 

 

Well, true. 

Still: Clinton is clearly the most "intelligent" of the 3. The loser of the 3, but the most intelligent. So we are concerned about intelligence of our Presidents and whether Biden is slipping (quickly or gradually) because ... why?

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, true. 

Still: Clinton is clearly the most "intelligent" of the 3. The loser of the 3, but the most intelligent. So we are concerned about intelligence of our Presidents and whether Biden is slipping (quickly or gradually) because ... why?

I disagree on the intelligence factor, or at least I’d say it’s a push between Clinton and Trump.   I think Clinton was much, much more skilled in the art of political science and had many more friends/associates in the right places.  Her experience as wife of Bill, Senator and later on Sec of State gave her unique access to all things political in the world.   Somehow, she managed to blow up what should have been the coronation of the heir apparent against an opponent with no experience in a world where normal rules don’t apply. 
 

Clinton is a smart and accomplished person, but she was also protected and enabled by the system.  For some odd reason, we get fascinated by these lineage/legacy candidates.  She had no ground game when Trump flipped the script. 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Chris farley said:

problems with swallowing?   anxiety?  Alcohol withdraws?  Muscle spasms?  Mothers' little helper has lots of uses.

 

 

not injectable valium in a pen as an outpatient.  Never seen it on a patients chart.

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I disagree on the intelligence factor, or at least I’d say it’s a push between Clinton and Trump.   I think Clinton was much, much more skilled in the art of political science and had many more friends/associates in the right places.  Her experience as wife of Bill, Senator and later on Sec of State gave her unique access to all things political in the world.   Somehow, she managed to blow up what should have been the coronation of the heir apparent against an opponent with no experience in a world where normal rules don’t apply. 
 

Clinton is a smart and accomplished person, but she was also protected and enabled by the system.  For some odd reason, we get fascinated by these lineage/legacy candidates.  She had no ground game when Trump flipped the script. 

 

 

You are correct.

But the point: which one has the highest IQ? I doubt there's any real debate. It's Clinton now, it was Clinton then, it will be Clinton next year.

Would she make the best President? America said "no." 

This is an interesting debate. 

Me in 1980: how could anyone vote for Reagan? He's dumb!

Me in 1988: maybe being smart (or smarter than the opposition) isn't really that important in a president.

Me in 2008: Good Lord, a dumb President can get us in a lot of trouble

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

46 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

You are correct.

But the point: which one has the highest IQ? I doubt there's any real debate. It's Clinton now, it was Clinton then, it will be Clinton next year.

Would she make the best President? America said "no." 

This is an interesting debate. 

Me in 1980: how could anyone vote for Reagan? He's dumb!

Me in 1988: maybe being smart (or smarter than the opposition) isn't really that important in a president.

Me in 2008: Good Lord, a dumb President can get us in a lot of trouble

 

I don’t know about the IQ test.  I think Trump’s IQ is underestimated, and he thrived in a competitive jungle that would defeat most people.  I think Clinton’s 

genius was in finding a medium that was controllable, maximizing her strengths and minimizing her weaknesses.  If you took Hillary out of the test tube of DC politics and placed her in NYC real estate/entertainment etc, she would likely fail.  When Trump entered her world, well, we know the results.  I’d also go so far as to say without Bill Clinton paving the way, HRC’s career stalls out long before Sec of State.  

Pure guess on my part, and you may well be 100% correct on IQ test.  I think as you have pointed out, that’s only one piece of a complicated puzzle. 

 

 

[JDHillFan]

At least he didn’t fall. 

[BillsFanNC]

26 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

At least he didn’t fall. 

 

Lost a bit off his fastball...

 

By all accounts...

 

[Wacka]

Mistimed the Ex-Lax.

[Irv]

11 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

At least he didn’t fall. 

 

What a mess.  If the Bozos re-elect that dude - we're *****!

[Doc]

1 minute ago, Irv said:

What a mess.  If the Bozos re-elect that dude - we're *****!

 

Like I said before, the Repubs need to frame 2024 as Kammy's Presidential election.  No one, not even Dems, want that.n  Hell they don't even want a 2nd term of Joke. 

[Westside]

3 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

What a mess.  If the Bozos re-elect that dude - we're *****!

But he’s so intelligent!

[Irv]

Just now, Westside said:

But he’s so intelligent!

 

And he doesn't mean tweet.  Mean people suck!

[All_Pro_Bills]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Like I said before, the Repubs need to frame 2024 as Kammy's Presidential election.  No one, not even Dems, want that.n  Hell they don't even want a 2nd term of Joke. 

Maybe the administration can try something different like telling the truth about the President's physical and mental condition?  Like releasing his latest health evaluation to the public.

 

Maybe the members of the media that have to sit through these charade press conferences where they are given questions to ask with pre-determined answers on queue cards that the President reads back to them, can ask some real questions such as why can't we ask unrehearsed questions, and why is the President incapable of forming a coherent response to questions that aren't on those queue cards?

 

Maybe Congress can demand answers about the silent coup in progress where an unelected and unknown person is assuming the role of President and sitting in the Oval Office making day-to-day decisions?

 

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[BillStime]

10 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

aybe the administration can try something different like telling the truth about the President's physical and mental condition?  Like releasing his latest health evaluation to the public.

Can you make up your mind?

 

On 6/28/2023 at 2:12 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

As I said on another thread in the world of politics the truth and facts don't matter.  All you need to do is tell a convincing enough story that people will believe. 

 

According to All “Pro” - the only time facts matter is when we are talking about Biden.

 

When it comes to Trump - leave him alone! 

[Irv]

15 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Maybe the administration can try something different like telling the truth about the President's physical and mental condition?  Like releasing his latest health evaluation to the public.

 

Maybe the members of the media that have to sit through these charade press conferences where they are given questions to ask with pre-determined answers on queue cards that the President reads back to them, can ask some real questions such as why can't we ask unrehearsed questions, and why is the President incapable of forming a coherent response to questions that aren't on those queue cards?

 

Maybe Congress can demand answers about the silent coup in progress where an unelected and unknown person is assuming the role of President and sitting in the Oval Office making day-to-day decisions?

 

.

 

It is a silent coup.  I bet Biden doesn't even know it.  And the Dems don't care.  They use the demented old fool as a prop for whoever is running the Executive Branch.  It's like the Wizard of ***** Oz!  What a mess.       

[BillStime]

3 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

It is a silent coup.  I bet Biden doesn't even know it.  And the Dems don't care.  They use the demented old fool as a prop for whoever is running the Executive Branch.  It's like the Wizard of ***** Oz!  What a mess.       

And yet he still beat this:

 

 

And this

 

 

@Irv - tissue?

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Maybe the administration can try something different like telling the truth about the President's physical and mental condition?  Like releasing his latest health evaluation to the public.

 

Maybe the members of the media that have to sit through these charade press conferences where they are given questions to ask with pre-determined answers on queue cards that the President reads back to them, can ask some real questions such as why can't we ask unrehearsed questions, and why is the President incapable of forming a coherent response to questions that aren't on those queue cards?

 

Maybe Congress can demand answers about the silent coup in progress where an unelected and unknown person is assuming the role of President and sitting in the Oval Office making day-to-day decisions?

 

No need to tell everyone what is plainly obvious.  The Dems just have no choice but to feign ignorance or hope they can manage it.  I just don't see the long play here because no one wants Kammy as President.

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

It is a silent coup.  I bet Biden doesn't even know it.  And the Dems don't care.  They use the demented old fool as a prop for whoever is running the Executive Branch.  It's like the Wizard of ***** Oz!  What a mess.       

Let's say that's true. That Biden is pretty much out of it and he's delegated White House decisionmaking to various advisors.

Is this such a bad thing?

I can't stand Trump. But if he'd left foreign policy decisionmaking to "my generals," tax/spend policy to Paul Ryan, and outsourced judicial nominations to the Federalist Society (something he did stick to), wouldn't his administration been more successful? Wouldn't he (gasp!) still be President? I consider Reagan's presidency to be the most successful overall since FDR. And he famously set a tone and then got the hell out of the way of most decisions. Oh, and was senile by the end to boot.

The presidency by committee is a feature, not a bug.

[Irv]

Just now, BillStime said:

And yet he still beat this:

 

 

And this

 

 

@Irv - tissue?

 

You're a one trick pony.  You should just cut and paste that for all your posts, because that's all you have.  Groundhog Day.    

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, Irv said:

You're a one trick pony.

You mean like the poster who responds to everything with "groomer?"

Or the one who just says "what a mess?"

We've got a lot of those one trick ponies round here!