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6 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

LOL. Malls are dead. Box stores are dying. 

 

 

 

 

 


Where do you live Chris?

36 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Yup.  I like to go to the local mall after Thanksgiving every weekend I get a chance.  It's been dead this year.


Don’t you live in Hartford? 
 

lmao

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3 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

This thread has gone awfully quiet since prices have started going down.

How much did I pay for gas today? $2.17 a gallon. Sam's Club/Colorado.

That's right. Regular unleaded.

Average price in Jan 2020, just before COVID, in the Glory Days of Trumpism? $2.63.

Oh.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

 

Now that victory has been declared, by you, what are your thoughts on the chart found at the link? In case you don’t want to look, here are the average gas prices nationwide for December starting with 2023 and going backward for the last two administrations:


3.26

3.32

3.40

2.28

2.65

2.46

2.60

 

Oh. 

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7 hours ago, JDHillFan said:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

 

Now that victory has been declared, by you, what are your thoughts on the chart found at the link? In case you don’t want to look, here are the average gas prices nationwide for December starting with 2023 and going backward for the last two administrations:


3.26

3.32

3.40

2.28

2.65

2.46

2.60

 

Oh. 

Funny, I read the topic as "how much did you pay for gas and groceries today."

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2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Funny, I read the topic as "how much did you pay for gas and groceries today."

Welp. Since Core inflation metrics don't include food and gas. 

 

Just know its more than last month

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Welp. Since Core inflation metrics don't include food and gas. 

 

Just know its more than last month

 

 

 

No, it isn't! Gas prices are down about 50 cents a gallon since early November.

Inflation adjusted, gas is cheap. Again. Drill, drill, drill. Whatever.

Cheap. Enjoy it. Stop whining!

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

No, it isn't! Gas prices are down about 50 cents a gallon since early November.

Inflation adjusted, gas is cheap. Again. Drill, drill, drill. Whatever.

Cheap. Enjoy it. Stop whining!

The outlier drop in price has a lot to do with increased drilling (Willow project) coupled with a decrease in demand.   

 

90% of gas usage is commercial. 

 

Its not a good thing when commercial traffic drops off a cliff.

 

 

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Just now, Tommy Callahan said:

The outlier drop in price has a lot to do with increased drilling (Willow project) coupled with a decrease in demand.   

 

90% of gas usage is commercial. 

 

Its not a good thing when commercial traffic drops off a cliff.

 

 

Again. The thread is about prices TODAY. Not predictions about prices in the future. Not comments about the general level of industrial productivity. Not a historical analysis of gas prices.

Today. Today = cheap. Deal with it.

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Again. The thread is about prices TODAY. Not predictions about prices in the future. Not comments about the general level of industrial productivity. Not a historical analysis of gas prices.

Today. Today = cheap. Deal with it.

your right. got to live for the cheap gas today. eff, horde it up. going to need it when this crash comes.

 

 

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Just now, JDHillFan said:

And therefore quoted 2020 prices. Oh. I suspect that’s ok but only if we stop at a certain time of your choosing. 

Look, the whole topic is about inflation under the Biden Administration. The last "normal" economic measure, pre-Biden Administration, was January or February 2020. If we were to look at April/May 2020 we'd see really cheap gas because a huge percentage of the economy was shut down, so that wouldn't tell us anything.

 

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Look, the whole topic is about inflation under the Biden Administration. The last "normal" economic measure, pre-Biden Administration, was January or February 2020. If we were to look at April/May 2020 we'd see really cheap gas because a huge percentage of the economy was shut down, so that wouldn't tell us anything.

 

I still remember you guys arguing the president doesn't have anything to do with the price of gas and it was all a result of the global pandemic.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

I still remember you guys arguing the president doesn't have anything to do with the price of gas and it was all a result of the global pandemic.

 

 

Non sequitur.

Yes, I am arguing that the president doesn't have anything (or at most a tiny thing) to do with the price of gas. And that the price of gas plummeted during COVID as the economy shut down. And that the price of gas spiked during the post-COVID inflationary period. And that the price of gas has now fallen as inflation is coming under control.

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Non sequitur.

Yes, I am arguing that the president doesn't have anything (or at most a tiny thing) to do with the price of gas. And that the price of gas plummeted during COVID as the economy shut down. And that the price of gas spiked during the post-COVID inflationary period. And that the price of gas has now fallen as inflation is coming under control.

You have proven in your comments that the president has very little to do with the price of gas, and the price of gas plummeted during covid (NO DEMAND) and is now coming down again due to a decreased DEMAND and more supply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

decreased DEMAND and more supply

That's kind of how it works.

The stats show nothing other than normal seasonal fluctuations in demand.

As far as supply: OPEC has implemented new supply restrictions, but even that isn't moving the price.

 

And U.S. domestic production is at an all-time high, which certainly has a lot to do with gas prices.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chart-day-us-oil-production-213046589.html

 

This is what's so stupid about the Trump 2.0 campaign. Drill, drill, drill! Keep doing what we've been doing!! Only the uninformed are falling for this Greatest Hits Reunion Tour.

(He has a point about illegal immigration though)

 

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I went out to the Big Storm Brewery in Orlando yesterday for the first time since 2021 and the difference in cost is at least 50% more. A meal of nachos, a quesadilla, and 4 pints of beer for me and wife was $65 before tip. There is nothing large or special about the food or beer. Last time I was there it was $50 including tip for same type of order. I do understand that Orlando is now an expensive city but this increase is absurd.

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8 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Again. The thread is about prices TODAY. Not predictions about prices in the future. Not comments about the general level of industrial productivity. Not a historical analysis of gas prices.

Today. Today = cheap. Deal with it.

It’s somewhat interesting that in order to make your point you are being pedantic regarding the thread title but in another thread defending the presidents of Harvard, MIT, and Penn, you airbrush out the central component of the entire matter (awful comments toward Jews) and turn it all into a hypothetical about white guys in Buffalo. How do you pick and choose when to be a stickler and when to dissemble?

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1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

I live in your dirty noggin rent free.

 

Right next to binders of trump and binders of black guys laughing.

 

 


Oh no freakshow - I own YOU.

 

You are my shadow - you follow me everywhere I go and you leave special calling cards on every post I make.

 

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Here kitty kitty

 

F’n idiot

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14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

$2.28 at Costco yesterday.

Yesterday?? Big whoop. Previously you made a bolded typeface declaration that this thread is about prices TODAY. You can see it at the top of this page. 
 
Still would like to hear about why you whitewashed Jews from your defense of university presidents and replaced them with imaginary white guys from Buffalo. 

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Just now, JDHillFan said:

Yesterday?? Big whoop. Previously you made a bolded typeface declaration that this thread is about prices TODAY. You can see it at the top of this page. 
 
Still would like to hear about why you whitewashed Jews from your defense of university presidents and replaced them with imaginary white guys from Buffalo. 

Haha. I'll check Gas Buddy and tell you what it is today.

You need to learn about arguments by analogy.

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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Haha. I'll check Gas Buddy and tell you what it is today.

You need to learn about arguments by analogy.

I know about them. I also know that it’s not a useful tool when the entire crux of the matter is set aside. There had to be a reason you did that. I guess we’ll never know what it was. 

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14 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

I know about them. I also know that it’s not a useful tool when the entire crux of the matter is set aside. There had to be a reason you did that. I guess we’ll never know what it was. 

You need to understand the upshot of your half-baked "argument."

Let's make it easy. 

You are Jewish.

Someone, somewhere - let's say in Harvard Yard - carries a sign saying "From the River to the Sea" and "Eliminate All Jews."

You live far away - let's say in Buffalo. Has this person "harassed" you? "Threatened" you personally? No.

Let's say that person comes to your house at night with a bullhorn and starts chanting the same thing that's on the sign. 

Has that person "harassed" you? I'd say yes. Has that person "threatened" you? I'd say yes.

The Harvard President said "it depends on the context."

See? It does depend on the context.

 

People who called on the Harvard President to resign imputed a different statement to her. A statement that was something like, "Should Harvard ban its students and faculty from calling for the elimination of the State of Israel?" Were the statements offensive? Yes. Should they be banned? Let's have that argument. Irv here wants to nuke Gaza. Should that be banned? Let's have that argument. But it's a different question than the one posed by Elise Stefanik.

Yes, I'm answering like a lawyer. Because it was a hearing and at hearings people are advised by lawyers to answer only the specific question that is posed. 

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4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

You need to understand the upshot of your half-baked "argument."

Let's make it easy. 

You are Jewish.

Someone, somewhere - let's say in Harvard Yard - carries a sign saying "From the River to the Sea" and "Eliminate All Jews."

You live far away - let's say in Buffalo. Has this person "harassed" you? "Threatened" you personally? No.

Let's say that person comes to your house at night with a bullhorn and starts chanting the same thing that's on the sign. 

Has that person "harassed" you? I'd say yes. Has that person "threatened" you? I'd say yes.

The Harvard President said "it depends on the context."

See? It does depend on the context.

 

People who called on the Harvard President to resign imputed a different statement to her. A statement that was something like, "Should Harvard ban its students and faculty from calling for the elimination of the State of Israel?" Were the statements offensive? Yes. Should they be banned? Let's have that argument. Irv here wants to nuke Gaza. Should that be banned? Let's have that argument. But it's a different question than the one posed by Elise Stefanik.

Yes, I'm answering like a lawyer. Because it was a hearing and at hearings people are advised by lawyers to answer only the specific question that is posed. 

I’m not making an argument. Everyone in the world knows those presidents sh*t on themselves before Congress. I’m merely wondering why you phrased it as such originally:

 

The question was: Would calling for genocide constitute harassment or bullying?

The question was not: Would calling for genocide be offensive speech?

 

You intentionally left out the central point of contention which was harassment of Jews. You had a reason for doing so. You are unwilling to share that reason. So be it. 

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Janet Yellen Throws Biden Under the Bus With Astounding Comment Destroying His Claims About Inflation

by Nick Arama

 

So many people have been crushed under the bootheel of "Bidenomics" and Bidenflation for so long. It's one of the main reasons Joe Biden's numbers are in the basement in terms of approval, particularly when it comes to the economy.

 

First, the Biden team denied the reality of the crushing inflation, calling it "transitory." Then they claimed it wasn't Joe Biden's fault, despite his excessive spending. They blamed it on Russia and greedy corporations, among others. Now Biden has been saying prices are coming down and claiming credit, even though prices are still up more than when he came in.

 

That's the shtick he's been rolling out at campaign events now. The problem, of course, the American people know how his words don't match up with how much more is still going out of their pockets each month for things like food and other essentials. 

Biden is trying to sell us on this fiction of how much he's doing to change what he broke, and no one believes him because he doesn't even understand the problem. Or he does and he just wants to spin us. 

 

But now, Treasury Janet Yellen just threw him under the bus with what she had to say about inflation. She was being interviewed by ABC when she was asked how she would convince people that prices might not go back to what they were before the pandemic. This is an astounding statement, especially in light of what Biden keeps saying now. 

 

 

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/01/29/yellen-inflation-comments-n2169361

 

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2 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

$2.28 at Costco yesterday.

I am very interested in where this is because according to AAA the cheapest gas by state is still 2.66 a gallon. A 40 cent gap is a lot within a state and the average cost is still $3.12 a gallon as a whole.

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