whorlnut Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I was thinking today on how Beane will fix this offense this off-season and i think even though we all agree we need offensive line help, I think we also need some weapons to go along with line. I’m not sure what Beane has in mind with getting a weapon for this offense, but what about a trade with the giants for Saquon Barkley? We could offer Tremaine Edmunds. Both players were first rounders in the same class and both might benefit from a change of scenery. This worked before when we traded a star linebacker for a running back. We could also draft a linebacker in the middle rounds to replace Edmunds, who has mostly underwhelmed in his time here. Yes, I know he is a two time pro bowler, but i think he leaves a lot out there on the field most of the time. Barkley would immediately give us an elite weapon. I realize he’s dealt with some injuries, but an ACL seems to be fairly common these days and his ankle got rolled which is a freak deal as well. I obviously realize this is highly unlikely, but worth discussing as it could be a win for both sides with exciting young players involved. 1 1 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dopey Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I was thinking today on how Beane will fix this offense this off-season and i think even though we all agree we need offensive line help, I think we also need some weapons to go along with line. I’m not sure what Beane has in mind with getting a weapon for this offense, but what about a trade with the giants for Saquon Barkley? We could offer Tremaine Edmunds. Both players were first rounders in the same class and both might benefit from a change of scenery. This worked before when we traded a star linebacker for a running back. We could also draft a linebacker in the middle rounds to replace Edmunds, who has mostly underwhelmed in his time here. Yes, I know he is a two time pro bowler, but i think he leaves a lot out there on the field most of the time. Barkley would immediately give us an elite weapon. I realize he’s dealt with some injuries, but an ACL seems to be fairly common these days and his ankle got rolled which is a freak deal as well. I obviously realize this is highly unlikely, but worth discussing as it could be a win for both sides with exciting young players involved. Do you think Edmunds sucks? Serious question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Dopey said: Do you think Edmunds sucks? Serious question. No. Neither did Kiko Alonso. That’s kinda the point of my thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, whorlnut said: You didn't mention if you thought one way or the other. Edited December 18, 2021 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I think Edmunds sucks but I only trade him for a DE or high level OL. Yes I wanted Najee Harris in the draft, but at the time I thought Ford was the answer at guard. He is a bust. They can't afford a high pick or to waste trade on a RB. Must fix both lines at all cost first. They can survive with the three backs they have now if they had a better OL 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I think Edmunds sucks but I only trade him for a DE or high level OL. Yes I wanted Najee Harris in the draft, but at the time I thought Ford was the answer at guard. He is a bust. They can't afford a high pick or to waste trade on a RB. Must fix both lines at all cost first. They can survive with the three backs they have now if they had a better OL I don’t really agree. Breida is on a one year deal and there isn’t a guarantee he will be back. Singletary and Moss are slow and lack vision. The RB room can be upgraded. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, Dopey said: You didn't mention if you thought one way or the other. Being the Christmas season, please use the appropriate LAMP. Because this thread deserves a Major Award. 3 8 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: I think Edmunds sucks but I only trade him for a DE or high level OL. Yes I wanted Najee Harris in the draft, but at the time I thought Ford was the answer at guard. He is a bust. They can't afford a high pick or to waste trade on a RB. Must fix both lines at all cost first. They can survive with the three backs they have now if they had a better OL It’ll be a real shame if we go into next season with the same three RBs. They could succeed if we crush the off season and build a beast OL (but doubtful), I’d just like to see them add a different type of talent to the mix. I’m over Moss. Breida is an idiot, he needs to go, regardless of speed. Now I know why he was in the doghouse and couldn’t get on the field competing against 2 JAGs in Miami. I’d be fine trading Moss for a 7th or cutting him. Not resigning Breida and drafting a back in rd 2-4 or adding a FA while giving Antonio Williams a chance at the rb3. If he stinks, there will be free agents capable of filling the role. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, whorlnut said: I was thinking today on how Beane will fix this offense this off-season and i think even though we all agree we need offensive line help, I think we also need some weapons to go along with line. I’m not sure what Beane has in mind with getting a weapon for this offense, but what about a trade with the giants for Saquon Barkley? We could offer Tremaine Edmunds. Both players were first rounders in the same class and both might benefit from a change of scenery. This worked before when we traded a star linebacker for a running back. We could also draft a linebacker in the middle rounds to replace Edmunds, who has mostly underwhelmed in his time here. Yes, I know he is a two time pro bowler, but i think he leaves a lot out there on the field most of the time. Barkley would immediately give us an elite weapon. I realize he’s dealt with some injuries, but an ACL seems to be fairly common these days and his ankle got rolled which is a freak deal as well. I obviously realize this is highly unlikely, but worth discussing as it could be a win for both sides with exciting young players involved. Ya know, I don’t really hate the idea as much as I originally thought, but if we’re going to trade Tremaine, I’d like to actually get something for him that we’d keep for more than 1 year. I don’t know what Barkley is gonna get paid after next year when he’s a FA, but I think it’s more than I think he’s worth due to his injury history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 18, 2021 Author Share Posted December 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Ya know, I don’t really hate the idea as much as I originally thought, but if we’re going to trade Tremaine, I’d like to actually get something for him that we’d keep for more than 1 year. I don’t know what Barkley is gonna get paid after next year when he’s a FA, but I think it’s more than I think he’s worth due to his injury history. Fair point. I really think Barkley has had some bad luck and it’s not really an injury prone issue. He tore is acl, which happens a lot these days. Then he rolled his ankle, which can happen slipping on ice. Haha. I get your point about getting someone long term. That’s a valid argument imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Why not trade edmunds for an OL. Bills already have lots of weapons at WR that can't be used because of problems at the front 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, motorj said: Why not trade edmunds for an OL. Bills already have lots of weapons at WR that can't be used because of problems at the front Like who? I’ll give you Diggs, but who is really a weapon after him? Beasley? He is worthless after the catch. Sanders? He’s old and now he’s hurt. Davis? And what is the common factor? They are all slow. IMO, a weapon needs to be a playmaker AFTER the catch, not only to the point of making one. I think one of the biggest myths in the league is that our wide receiver Corp is anything to be excited about. Beyond Diggs, we have a bunch of JAGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: I was thinking today on how Beane will fix this offense this off-season and i think even though we all agree we need offensive line help, I think we also need some weapons to go along with line. I’m not sure what Beane has in mind with getting a weapon for this offense, but what about a trade with the giants for Saquon Barkley? We could offer Tremaine Edmunds. Both players were first rounders in the same class and both might benefit from a change of scenery. This worked before when we traded a star linebacker for a running back. We could also draft a linebacker in the middle rounds to replace Edmunds, who has mostly underwhelmed in his time here. Yes, I know he is a two time pro bowler, but i think he leaves a lot out there on the field most of the time. Barkley would immediately give us an elite weapon. I realize he’s dealt with some injuries, but an ACL seems to be fairly common these days and his ankle got rolled which is a freak deal as well. I obviously realize this is highly unlikely, but worth discussing as it could be a win for both sides with exciting young players involved. Rather have McCaffrey... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Augie Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Somebody should start a poll. On the poll should be the worst thread ideas. I would vote for speculative trade ideas as #1. Sorry, nothing personal, just my opinion. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo03 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I actually just mentioned this to my friend yesterday and I'm not even joking. I told him that Barkley is 24, gonna be 25 in February. The Giants have to start over. Daniel Jones is a bust and they need to draft a new QB. The whole team is a mess and it honestly doesn't make sense for the Giants to hold Barkley hostage through his remaining good seasons he has left. Because of Barkley's injury history, I don't think any team would give up a first but I would give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder for him. They will both be late picks in those rounds. Despite the injuries, I would call them and see what it would take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, NewEra said: It’ll be a real shame if we go into next season with the same three RBs. They could succeed if we crush the off season and build a beast OL (but doubtful), I’d just like to see them add a different type of talent to the mix. I’m over Moss. Breida is an idiot, he needs to go, regardless of speed. Now I know why he was in the doghouse and couldn’t get on the field competing against 2 JAGs in Miami. I’d be fine trading Moss for a 7th or cutting him. Not resigning Breida and drafting a back in rd 2-4 or adding a FA while giving Antonio Williams a chance at the rb3. If he stinks, there will be free agents capable of filling the role. My point was I would spend on a high priced RB if they have not addressed the OL. In this scenario if they move Edmunds, they must replace him too. Therefore any trade would need to bring them back a high end starter at DE or anywhere on the OL. Cutting Moss for another 3rd or 4th round draft seems like a waste of a draft pick. They need TE #2, maybe another WR, and a 1tech DT. Just don't see how they draft another RB in first two days of the draft three years in a row, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: My point was I would spend on a high priced RB if they have not addressed the OL. In this scenario if they move Edmunds, they must replace him too. Therefore any trade would need to bring them back a high end starter at DE or anywhere on the OL. Cutting Moss for another 3rd or 4th round draft seems like a waste of a draft pick. They need TE #2, maybe another WR, and a 1tech DT. Just don't see how they draft another RB in first two days of the draft three years in a row, Miss is a waste of a draft pick. He’s just not very good and always hurt. Cut your losses and move on. If you want to improve the run game, adding a upgrade @ RB is recommenced. Not necessary, but unless you want to watch Breida forget to take a handoff or get 17 killed again, we should get someone better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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