Tiberius Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Ha! I read UK as Great Britain. 😳 Pretend it's 1940 and Great Britain is being pressed by the Blitz and our Conservative isolationists were saying, "Mind our own business" Murrow remained in London after the outbreak of the Second World War and his eyewitness reports on the Blitz made him a national figure in the United States. On 10th September 1940 he reported: "We could see little men shovelling those fire bombs into the river. One burned for a few minutes like a beacon right in the middle of a bridge. Finally those white flames all went out. No one bothers about the white light, it's only when it turns yellow that a real fire has started. I must have seen well over a hundred fire bombs come down and only three small fires were started. The incendiaries aren't so bad if there is someone there to deal with them, but those oil bombs present more difficulties. As I watched those white fires flame up and die down, watched the yellow blazes grow dull and disappear, I thought, what a puny effort is this to burn a great city." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Pretend it's 1940 and Great Britain is being pressed by the Blitz and our Conservative isolationists were saying, "Mind our own business" Murrow remained in London after the outbreak of the Second World War and his eyewitness reports on the Blitz made him a national figure in the United States. On 10th September 1940 he reported: "We could see little men shovelling those fire bombs into the river. One burned for a few minutes like a beacon right in the middle of a bridge. Finally those white flames all went out. No one bothers about the white light, it's only when it turns yellow that a real fire has started. I must have seen well over a hundred fire bombs come down and only three small fires were started. The incendiaries aren't so bad if there is someone there to deal with them, but those oil bombs present more difficulties. As I watched those white fires flame up and die down, watched the yellow blazes grow dull and disappear, I thought, what a puny effort is this to burn a great city." Some suggest we should pretend its more like 1914 when various alliances and treaties among nations brought those parties into a conflict that would be called Word War I. Triggered by the assassination of an Archduke when soon after Austria-Hungary declaring war against Serbia followed by countries allied via treaty with no direct interests getting involved in one side or the other. Millions died as a result of the killing of one man most had never heard of before. Edited March 15, 2023 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Pretend it's 1940 and Great Britain is being pressed by the Blitz and our Conservative isolationists were saying, "Mind our own business" Murrow remained in London after the outbreak of the Second World War and his eyewitness reports on the Blitz made him a national figure in the United States. On 10th September 1940 he reported: "We could see little men shovelling those fire bombs into the river. One burned for a few minutes like a beacon right in the middle of a bridge. Finally those white flames all went out. No one bothers about the white light, it's only when it turns yellow that a real fire has started. I must have seen well over a hundred fire bombs come down and only three small fires were started. The incendiaries aren't so bad if there is someone there to deal with them, but those oil bombs present more difficulties. As I watched those white fires flame up and die down, watched the yellow blazes grow dull and disappear, I thought, what a puny effort is this to burn a great city." Tibs It’s your opinion that Putin is interested in marching on Paris? Okie Dokie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs It’s your opinion that Putin is interested in marching on Paris? Okie Dokie Nah, more likely Tbilisi, Kyiv, and Transnistria. If those go well, maybe he’ll want Tallinn, Riga, and Vilnius too. Edited March 15, 2023 by ChiGoose 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L Ron Burgundy Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs It’s your opinion that Putin is interested in marching on Paris? Okie Dokie Nope. Maybe Warsaw and Prague though. And that is insane. Former Soviet satellites hate Russia. For very good reason. They want nothing to do with them and their ultra corrupt way of life. Not to mention the whole slave to Russia thing. We have a economic interest in a healthy Europe if that's not enough. Sorry for answering for you Tibs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 9:09 AM, B-Man said: THANKS BIDEN: U.S. Weapons Sent To Ukraine Are Now Being Found in Iran by Kyle Becker Military aid provided by the United States and its NATO allies to Ukraine is being found in the hands of Iranians, according to a new CNN report. “Russia has been capturing some of the US and NATO-provided weapons and equipment left on the battlefield in Ukraine and sending them to Iran, where the US believes Tehran will try to reverse-engineer the systems,” four sources familiar with the matter told CNN. “Over the last year, US, NATO and other Western officials have seen several instances of Russian forces seizing smaller, shoulder-fired weapons equipment including Javelin anti-tank and Stinger anti-aircraft systems https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/u-s-nato-weapons-knab/ https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/politics/russia-iran-ukraine-weapons/index.html . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, redtail hawk said: Another wedge issue for the R's https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-republican-civil-war-on-ukraine-erupts-as-reagan-s-example-fades/ar-AA18Ehiq Nice. referencing Bush War mongering. 1 hour ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Some suggest we should pretend its more like 1914 when various alliances and treaties among nations brought those parties into a conflict that would be called Word War I. Triggered by the assassination of an Archduke when soon after Austria-Hungary declaring war against Serbia followed by countries allied via treaty with no direct interests getting involved in one side or the other. Millions died as a result of the killing of one man most had never heard of before. More people would think Franz Ferdinand is a Disney character than the who he was. https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Ferdinand_the_Bull_(character) Even less remember the name of the piece of crap anarchist that killed him to get all that going. Edited March 15, 2023 by Chris farley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Chris farley said: More people would think Franz Ferdinand is a Disney character than the who he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Nope. Maybe Warsaw and Prague though. And that is insane. Former Soviet satellites hate Russia. For very good reason. They want nothing to do with them and their ultra corrupt way of life. Not to mention the whole slave to Russia thing. We have a economic interest in a healthy Europe if that's not enough. Sorry for answering for you Tibs. So you agree then…this is NOT analogous to WW2. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So you agree then…this is NOT analogous to WW2. Thanks! I think we all hope it's not. That's what we're trying to prevent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Does BHO love Putin? Should he move to Russia? People want to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Does BHO love Putin? Should he move to Russia? People want to know. Obama was incredibly wrong about Russia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: I think we all hope it's not. That's what we're trying to prevent. So you think Hitler was just making it up as he went along? Okie w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: So you think Hitler was just making it up as he went along? Okie w I think most of the world thought he would stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, redtail hawk said: I think most of the world thought he would stop... So once again, you believe Putin will be marching on Paris? Let me know when because I’m planning to go to London to see the Bills in October. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: So once again, you believe Putin will be marching on Paris? Let me know when because I’m planning to go to London to see the Bills in October. 😉 No, I didn't say that. I think he wants Poland and possibly some of the Balkans. I think we've weakened him so much that he can't, at this point. Bravo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 13 hours ago, redtail hawk said: No, I didn't say that. I think he wants Poland and possibly some of the Balkans. I think we've weakened him so much that he can't, at this point. Bravo... I'm not clear why Putin would be gunning for Poland mainly because empires and imperialism are typically driven by the desire to acquire resources, not just territory for the sake of more land. As Russia is a resource rich country with a large land area already and Poland's main resource is coal reserves and production I don't see any strategic reason to go to the trouble. And while the former Soviet Union engaged in gobbling up nations of Eastern Europe after WW2 that ended with the dissolution of the Union. I'm aware of the theory being tossed about that Putin is obsessed with re-assembling the former Soviet Union but I think that's less fact and more fiction peddled by people using it to serve their own purposes rather than it being an accurate assessment of some policy objective. For one, none of these countries are economic powerhouses and anybody taking them on would need to sink lots of cash into them. Right now its the German's doing that though the EU and the Euro common currency. Why not just wait until Germany gets tired of subsidizing everyone else and things fall apart to make any move? Why start a fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 13 hours ago, redtail hawk said: No, I didn't say that. I think he wants Poland and possibly some of the Balkans. I think we've weakened him so much that he can't, at this point. Bravo... Poland? They were never part of the USSR and are in NATO. No it seems he wanted to reconstitute the USSR and started (continued) with Ukraine, who he overestimated the degree to which they wanted to rejoin Russia. He was sorely mistaken and has no chance to enter into a war with any other country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 16, 2023 Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 Flying Tigers? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 13 hours ago, redtail hawk said: No, I didn't say that. I think he wants Poland and possibly some of the Balkans. I think we've weakened him so much that he can't, at this point. Bravo... So in your world view we needed to first watch him level a country, displace millions of innocent people, and kill thousands of young men and women just to make this point? Wouldn’t it have been far better to stop him BEFORE any of that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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