IR Stash List -

[GoBills!]

With the new rules of only having to miss 3 games, what guys do you think we are able to stash on IR? I know they have to make the 53 man roster, but cutting and signing is something we done in the past. 

 

Sweeney - 6 ft 5 250 lbs, 3 years of back luck but I think he is a good IR stash if his foot injury is going to be multiple weeks. 

Issah Hodgins - Right now he is on the outside looking in. I think he has NFL talent but we are just too loaded this year. If not IR I don't know if he makes it to practice squad.

Stevenson - I loved what I saw speed, and vision wise on the return today and his play last week. I think he is a gamer and will be our guy next year if he isn't this year.

 

New rules - 

An unlimited number of players can return from a team’s injured reserve list, and they are eligible after missing a minimum of only three games.

After three weeks, the player becomes eligible to return to practice. Once he returns to practice, the team has 21 days to place him back on the active roster.

Previously, a team had only two IR-return designations it could use in a season and a player was required to miss a minimum of eight weeks.

Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list.

 

 

[Rc2catch]

Im not sure exactly what you’re trying to get at here. 
We put those 3 on IR the whole season? 

[MWK]

Doyle is a prime candidate. Doesn’t look ready to play and got an injury today. We could look to sign another tackle instead of him (Hopefully not just keeping Bobby Hart). Could see Stevenson or Hodgins too, maybe a guy like Wildgoose too if they are worried he could get claimed.

Edited August 22, 2021 by MWK

[17islongenough]

What players are eligible to be cut and not be subject to waivers?

[ColoradoBills]

2 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

What players are eligible to be cut and not be subject to waivers?

 

 

Typically also on a 1 year contract.

The prime guys that fit this are Breida, McKenzie, Hollister and Taiwan Jones.

[BigAl2526]

I think the Bills would rather keep Sweeney on the 53 man roster if they can.  Doyle would be a great IR candidate as well as Stevenson and Hodgins.  Doyle could probably use an entire year on IR to work out the rough spots in his game.  Hodgins and Stevenson can stay on the IR until/unless needed because of injury. 

Edited August 22, 2021 by BigAl2526

[GoBills!]

18 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Im not sure exactly what you’re trying to get at here. 
We put those 3 on IR the whole season? 

The new rules is any one can come back after missing only 3 games, So lets say we stash Sweeney. He is ready to go after 3-4 weeks. We have a guy go down, we can take him off IR. The rule used to be you have only certain guys designated to return also at one time it was like only after 7-8 weeks.

1 minute ago, BigAl2526 said:

I think the Bills would rather keep Sweeney on the 53 man roster if they can.  Doyle would be a great IR candidate as well as Stevenson and Hodgins.  Doyle could probably use and entire year to work out the rough spots in his game.  Hodgins and Stevenson can stay on the IR until/unless needed because of injury. 

Forgot about Doyle, He is a monster in size and just hasn't been healthy yet. As a draft pick he may be a good candidate and stay there for all or majority of the season. 

 

[John from Riverside]

After today that player might be Stevenson

[Rc2catch]

Just now, GoBills! said:

The new rules is any one can come back after missing only 3 games, So lets say we stash Sweeney. He is ready to go after 3-4 weeks. We have a guy go down, we can take him off IR. The rule used to be you have only certain guys designated to return also at one time it was like only after 7-8 weeks.

But you can’t IR him until we make the cuts to get to 53 right? We had to cut roberts and Marlowe last year and sign them back to get mongo on IR. 

[GoBills!]

1 minute ago, Rc2catch said:

But you can’t IR him until we make the cuts to get to 53 right? We had to cut roberts and Marlowe last year and sign them back to get mongo on IR. 

Yes they have to make the 53 then go to IR, so guys like Jones, Breida on one year deals maybe cut and signed in order to keep these guys safe.

[BigAl2526]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

But you can’t IR him until we make the cuts to get to 53 right? We had to cut roberts and Marlowe last year and sign them back to get mongo on IR. 

In the last few seasons, you could only designate a player to return from IR to the 53 man roster if he was IRed after the 53 man roster was reached.  I don't know what the rules are this year, but obviously there are changes that have been made.

[GoBills!]

2 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said:

In the last few seasons, you could only designate a player to return from IR to the 53 man roster if he was IRed after the 53 man roster was reached.  I don't know what the rules are this year, but obviously there are changes that have been made.

Here is where I got this years rules from. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/10/nfl-will-retain-modified-ir-rules-allowing-unlimited-players-to-return/

[Rc2catch]

3 minutes ago, GoBills! said:

Yes they have to make the 53 then go to IR, so guys like Jones, Breida on one year deals maybe cut and signed in order to keep these guys safe.

Ok I thought that’s what you were going for in the OP. I just didn’t understand when I read it. 
So they just need a couple volunteers they can trust to cut and come back like Marlowe and roberts last year. I get what you meant now. 

[Matt_In_NH]

Can a guy come back if he goes on IR in the preseason?   

[Ya Digg?]

I don’t think the Bills need to be too concerned about Hodgins…he isa 6th round pick from last year, didn’t play, and hasn’t been exactly tearing it up this preseason. I feel they could get him onto the practice squad without too much trouble 

Edited August 22, 2021 by Ya Digg?

[BigAl2526]

1 minute ago, GoBills! said:

Here is where I got this years rules from. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/10/nfl-will-retain-modified-ir-rules-allowing-unlimited-players-to-return/

This is the thorn on the rose.  "Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list."  If The Bills can justify putting Doyle on IR, they can do it any time, I don't think they'd worry much about trying to bring him back this season.  Sweeney would be pouched if the Bills cut him to try and get him on a return eligible IR.  They may or may not be able to sneak Hodgins and Stevenson on to such a return eligible IR.

[Augie]

15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

After today that player might be Stevenson

 

The TD return may have ruined that dream. Everybody loves a frightening returner and a speed WR. 

[Rc2catch]

2 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Can a guy come back if he goes on IR in the preseason?   

No I don’t think so. Otherwise everyone would IR tons of players and wouldn’t have to make cuts. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

45 minutes ago, GoBills! said:

With the new rules of only having to miss 3 games, what guys do you think we are able to stash on IR? I know they have to make the 53 man roster, but cutting and signing is something we done in the past. 

 

Sweeney - 6 ft 5 250 lbs, 3 years of back luck but I think he is a good IR stash if his foot injury is going to be multiple weeks. 

Issah Hodgins - Right now he is on the outside looking in. I think he has NFL talent but we are just too loaded this year. If not IR I don't know if he makes it to practice squad.

Stevenson - I loved what I saw speed, and vision wise on the return today and his play last week. I think he is a gamer and will be our guy next year if he isn't this year.

 

New rules - 

An unlimited number of players can return from a team’s injured reserve list, and they are eligible after missing a minimum of only three games.

After three weeks, the player becomes eligible to return to practice. Once he returns to practice, the team has 21 days to place him back on the active roster.

Previously, a team had only two IR-return designations it could use in a season and a player was required to miss a minimum of eight weeks.

Only players on the 53-player roster after Sept. 1 are eligible to be designated for return from IR or the non-football injury list.

 

 

 

I think a guy like Hodgins may end up on IR before making the final 53 as with the WR core the team has, really not a place for him.

 

Based on last weeks catch and this weeks PR, don't think they can risk cutting Stevenson, so think he makes the 53 as the 6th WR.   For that matter if a WR were to get hurt, maybe they just go with 5 for awhile then too or likely can find a FA as good as Hodgins to become the 6th WR.

 

I think the same with Doyle.  Doubt they want to risk cutting him, but can't see two rookie OT's being the teams only backups there.   Another name too is Hamlin.

 

To me though, these are all guys you just put on IR before final 53 and say see you next year!  Team has enough depth without them.

 

 

32 minutes ago, 17islongenough said:

What players are eligible to be cut and not be subject to waivers?

 

I believe if you're in the league 4 or more years not subject to waivers.  You become a FA once cut.

 

 

5 minutes ago, mattynh said:

Can a guy come back if he goes on IR in the preseason?   

 

No don't believe so.

[Rc2catch]

2 minutes ago, BubbaT said:

Have to keep them on the roster at cutdown day or lose them for the whole year. Last year Been had side deals with vets he cut and brought back since (I think) they were not subject to waiver claims and were total free agents. They came back and the retained younger players headed to IR

This.. 

There was two players we wanted to IR, Feliciano and someone else. We wanted them available to come back from IR. 
We cut Marlowe and  Andre roberts with handshake deals and brought them back once we put our guys on IR. We were all shocked we cut them at final cuts.