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11 minutes ago, Governor said:

More than 50 wouldn’t be good. Less than 50 and the history books and military would view it as a successful withdrawal operation from a 20 year war.

 

Why would anyone expect 0 casualties and 0 injuries during war? That doesn’t make any sense.

 

Now it's successful??  What happened to the word PERFECT? 

 

So you base the level of success on the death count only?  WTF is wrong with you? 

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8 minutes ago, Governor said:

More than 50 wouldn’t be good. Less than 50 and the history books and military would view it as a successful withdrawal operation from a 20 year war.

 

Why would anyone expect 0 casualties and 0 injuries during war? That doesn’t make any sense.


There haven’t been any combat casualties there in a year and a half until now. Drawing down the presence, halting us air support, surrendering military bases, Destabilizing the country and then after all that starting evacuation is categorically idiotic. 

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5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Because all this was completely avoidable if we had anyone capable of planning and executing a credible withdrawal plan for civilian and military personnel.  But Biden F'ed it all up.  That's what happened.

 

Surrendering Baghram Air Base made no sense at the time, and even less so now.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

Because all this was completely avoidable if we had anyone capable of planning and executing a credible withdrawal plan for civilian and military personnel.  But Biden F'ed it all up.  That's what happened.

 

This is moving towards an impeachable offense in my opinion.  The threshold for me personally is if it turns into a hostage situation or ISIS captures Americans remaining in the country and starts executing them.

 

We've impeached Presidents over stupid things like blowjobs and complete fiction, so I'm thinking this disaster is absolute fair game.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Governor said:

If 7 American soldiers died and 12 American/Afghan citizens died, would you want Biden to cancel the withdrawal and restart the war?

 

No.  I'd prefer what Trump had planned.  Withdraw and the agreement with the Taliban was "you keep your nose clean and if you don't we're coming back and kicking your ass!"  I'm pretty sure when Trump made that agreement he KNEW they'd not keep their noses clean.  That's how they operate.  Then we'd have completely legitimate reasons for wiping those ***** off the face of the earth.   But no we have this cluster*****.  

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No.  I'd prefer what Trump had planned.  Withdraw and the agreement with the Taliban was "you keep your nose clean and if you don't we're coming back and kicking your ass!"  I'm pretty sure when Trump made that agreement he KNEW they'd not keep their noses clean.  That's how they operate.  Then we'd have completely legitimate reasons for wiping those ***** off the face of the earth.   But no we have this cluster*****.  

I can't remember ever seeing anything this ***** up in my life... its the completion backwards principle.

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6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

No.  I'd prefer what Trump had planned.  Withdraw and the agreement with the Taliban was "you keep your nose clean and if you don't we're coming back and kicking your ass!"  I'm pretty sure when Trump made that agreement he KNEW they'd not keep their noses clean.  That's how they operate.  Then we'd have completely legitimate reasons for wiping those ***** off the face of the earth.   But no we have this cluster*****.  

Trump kicked the can down the road to the next president because he was scared to act.

 

We’re past that now.

 

What do you want to happen now?

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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

Oh no no no. According to @Governor it's absolutely perfect!!  Perfect I tell ya!!  

 

He's only saying "perfect" as a dig at Trump for saying that about his call to Zelensky.  The irony being Joey should have investigated for being corrupt and incompetent...

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4 minutes ago, Governor said:

Trump kicked the can down the road to the next president because he was scared to act.

 

We’re past that now.

 

What do you want to happen now?

 

So wait.  When Trump made that deal he didn't think he was going to be President in 2021?  Are you really going with this?  :wallbash:

 

What do I want now?  Nothing.   It's too ***** up to fix.  

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4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So wait.  When Trump made that deal he didn't think he was going to be President in 2021?  Are you really going with this?  :wallbash:

 

What do I want now?  Nothing.   It's too ***** up to fix.  

Of course he didn’t he think was going to win. Did you watch the last election at all?

 

What president sets an end date for a war, which he said he would never ever never ever do during the 2016 election, and leaves it for the next guy to clean up?

 

You’re twisting yourself in knots here.

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Just now, Governor said:

Of course he didn’t he was going to win. Did you watch the last election at all?

 

What president sets an end date for a war, which he said he would never ever never ever do during the 2016 election, and leaves it for the next guy to clean up?

 

You’re twisting yourself in knots here.

 

I'm twisting myself.  :lol:   You're the one insinuating that Trump didn't think he was going win the 2020 election.  With that fact alone you should bury your head in shame.  

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18 minutes ago, Governor said:

Trump kicked the can down the road to the next president because he was scared to act.

 

We’re past that now.

 

What do you want to happen now?


You’re high again.  
 

So the story is; Orange man deliberately kicked the afghani’can’ to the next term… the same term he then lied about winning and the same term he then staged an insurrection to stay in office. 
 

This is what CNN has you believing? 

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4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


You’re high again.  
 

So the story is; Orange man deliberately kicked the afghani’can’ to the next term… the same term he then lied about winning and the same term he then staged an insurrection to stay in office. 
 

This is what CNN has you believing? 

It isn't even cnn for these clowns anymore, its tik tok, yahoo and huff now.

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13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


You’re high again.  
 

So the story is; Orange man deliberately kicked the afghani’can’ to the next term… the same term he then lied about winning and the same term he then staged an insurrection to stay in office. 
 

This is what CNN has you believing? 

 

Regardless the most hilarious part of this whole exchange is that @Governor (I think @dogcatcher is probably more appropriate but that's a conversation for another day) thinks I'm the one twisting into a pretzel.  :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Regardless the most hilarious part of this whole exchange is that @Governor (I think @dogcatcher is probably more appropriate but that's a conversation for another day) thinks I'm the one twisting into a pretzel.  :lol:

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreementwith the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

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3 minutes ago, Governor said:

The Trump administration in February 2020 negotiated a withdrawal agreementwith the Taliban that excluded the Afghan government, freed 5,000 imprisoned Taliban soldiers and set a date certain of May 1, 2021, for the final withdrawal.

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