NY Times: Increase in Diversity not going way Democrats hoped

[SoCal Deek]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You just don’t understand what the issues are here. Why chime in if you can’t even get what the argument is? 

Hilarious. Inform us all then what YOU contend is the ‘argument’. 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Hilarious. Inform us all then what YOU contend is the ‘argument’. 

It’s been made over and over in this thread but went right over your head. Not even sure why you are commenting on something you don’t understand 

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It’s been made over and over in this thread but went right over your head. Not even sure why you are commenting on something you don’t understand 

Inform me. And as you get started please take into account I have two black business partners who grew up in COMPTON. Now, go ahead and tell me, and them, all about ‘diversity’ and ‘disadvantage’ challenges. Give me a break! 

[B-Man]

 

The point of the thread is that for multiple years  the left has been trumpeting  (led here on PPP by a willing Tiberius) of the inevitably of the Left

 

taking over the country as more and more people of color arrived.

 

This has proved to be a false narrative that they continue to cling to despite solid evidence to the contrary.

 

This also is a perfect example of how they see people as groups, rather than individuals.

 

 

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[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

The point of the thread is that for multiple years  the left has been trumpeting  (led here on PPP by a willing Tiberius) of the inevitably of the Left

 

taking over the country as more and more people of color arrived.

 

This has proved to be a false narrative that they continue to cling to despite solid evidence to the contrary.

 

This also is a perfect example of how they see people as groups, rather than individuals.

 

 

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But Republicans are proving the point by Gerrymandering people of color into districts that can't win. You understand that? 

 

It's true, the rising tide of people of color is a threat to Republicans so the gerrymander based on race and party (which corollate closely together in many instances
) 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But Republicans are proving the point by Gerrymandering people of color into districts that can't win. You understand that? 

 

It's true, the rising tide of people of color is a threat to Republicans so the gerrymander based on race and party (which corollate closely together in many instances
) 

 

 

So let me get this straight…your solution to overcoming the scourge of white racism is having ‘people of color’ vote based on …wait for it….their SKIN COLOR? You don’t see the irony here? Really? 

[reddogblitz]

6 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But Republicans are proving the point by Gerrymandering people of color into districts that can't win. You understand that? 

 

It's true, the rising tide of people of color is a threat to Republicans so the gerrymander based on race and party (which corollate closely together in many instances
) 

 

 

 

Here's an interesting article about the history of Gerrymandering: https://www.history.com/news/gerrymandering-origins-voting

 

It started shortly after America started.  Every political party ever in power has used it. Started with the Jeffersonian Republicans (not Republican, they started in 1854) and the Wiggs and the Democrats and Republicans.  

 

Here is a rather gross example:

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When Black men won the right to vote after the Civil War, gerrymandering was “taken up a notch,” Hunter says. Southern states in particular drew districts to maximize the electoral advantage for the Democratic Party, which most white southern voters supported, over the Republican Party, which most Black voters supported.

 

Whichever party is in power will use it and have.

 

When the Democrats are back in power they will do the same.

 

I'm not espousing Gerrymandering, but it is what it is.

 

This book has a good breakdown on how it works: https://www.amazon.com/Ratf--ked-David-Daley-audiobook/dp/B01HU2X7BE/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3D1BDXKRF9V5E&keywords=Ratf*cked&qid=1640988253&s=books&sprefix=ratf+cked%2Cstripbooks%2C191&sr=1-1

Edited December 31, 2021 by reddogblitz

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

On 12/30/2021 at 9:56 AM, Tiberius said:

Then why are Texas and other states gerrymandering the state to disenfranchise people of color? 

👆thinly veiled actual racism and Supremacy in practice (talking about racial groups as subjugated victims that can’t help themselves) 

 

 Actual anti-racism in practice (active participation in diversity)👇

18 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Inform me. And as you get started please take into account I have two black business partners who grew up in COMPTON. Now, go ahead and tell me, and them, all about ‘diversity’ and ‘disadvantage’ challenges. Give me a break! 

 

Edited January 1, 2022 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

 Actual anti-racism in practice (active participation in diversity)👇

 

Happy New Year

 

Just to be clear, I work in a profession where results are not only required but measurable. My practice isn’t ‘diverse’ because it’s chasing some PC box to check. The only thing we’re actively participating in is providing exceptional service for our clients. Period.

[B-Man]

 

 

Democrats Face a Brutal Reckoning With Hispanic Voters

 

By A.B. Stoddard

 

 

These days the Democratic Party is like a sad addict whose life has fallen apart, with too much to resolve and repair all at once. Sure, the aching hip and broken relationships can be put off for another day, but the lost job, wrecked car, and empty bank account require immediate attention. President Biden and the Democrats are — simultaneously — working to stave off the failure of his economic agenda, control a once-again rampaging pandemic, mitigate the effects of the worst inflation since 1982, and rescue democracy from new laws that permit the GOP to nullify the next election, all before they likely lose both chambers of Congress next year.

 

There are too many liabilities to count. But there is one new and glaring problem that has nothing to do with bickering factions in Congress, and cannot be explained away by global trends or the potency of election conspiracies and propaganda. A distinct group of their supporters is leaving them. Many Hispanic voters, long a reliable part of the Democratic coalition, have walked away. It is not — yet — a majority of them, but the numbers are dramatic. Biden won 750,000 fewer Hispanic voters in 2020 than Hillary Clinton did in 2016 — in an Electoral College victory he nearly lost by fewer than 45,000 votes in three states. Donald Trump improved his margin with these voters by eight percentage points in four years, according to an analysis by the Democratic firm Catalist — a larger swing than any among white, black or Asian voters.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/01/03/democrats_face_a_brutal_reckoning_with_hispanic_voters_146975.html

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

45 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Democrats Face a Brutal Reckoning With Hispanic Voters

 

By A.B. Stoddard

 

 

These days the Democratic Party is like a sad addict whose life has fallen apart, with too much to resolve and repair all at once. Sure, the aching hip and broken relationships can be put off for another day, but the lost job, wrecked car, and empty bank account require immediate attention. President Biden and the Democrats are — simultaneously — working to stave off the failure of his economic agenda, control a once-again rampaging pandemic, mitigate the effects of the worst inflation since 1982, and rescue democracy from new laws that permit the GOP to nullify the next election, all before they likely lose both chambers of Congress next year.

 

There are too many liabilities to count. But there is one new and glaring problem that has nothing to do with bickering factions in Congress, and cannot be explained away by global trends or the potency of election conspiracies and propaganda. A distinct group of their supporters is leaving them. Many Hispanic voters, long a reliable part of the Democratic coalition, have walked away. It is not — yet — a majority of them, but the numbers are dramatic. Biden won 750,000 fewer Hispanic voters in 2020 than Hillary Clinton did in 2016 — in an Electoral College victory he nearly lost by fewer than 45,000 votes in three states. Donald Trump improved his margin with these voters by eight percentage points in four years, according to an analysis by the Democratic firm Catalist — a larger swing than any among white, black or Asian voters.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/01/03/democrats_face_a_brutal_reckoning_with_hispanic_voters_146975.html

 

 

 

 

Ya, the GOP just has to gerrymander them into districts where they don't have much power. Why is that? 

[SoCal Deek]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, the GOP just has to gerrymander them into districts where they don't have much power. Why is that? 

The bigger question is why you presume all people of a particular skin color or ethnicity should vote as a block.  Don't you see how utterly racist that is?

[Irv]

4 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

The bigger question is why you presume all people of a particular skin color or ethnicity should vote as a block.  Don't you see how utterly racist that is?

 

Amen.  Post of the new year!  What a mess!

[Doc]

Gerrymandering must be the new cause celebre.  

[B-Man]

 

 

HOW’S THAT PERMANENT DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY COMING ALONG? 

 

Pollster Scott Rasmussen Says Democrats Are Getting Demographics All Wrong. 

 

“Democrats want to present this notion of persons of color, that they are all the same. It is not a coalition that exists in the real world. 

 

 

https://www.aier.org/article/pollster-scott-rasmussen-says-democrats-are-getting-demographics-all-wrong/

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

The Democrats’ Coming Asian Voter Problem It's Not Just Hispanics Anymore

By Ruy Teixeira

 

The Democrats’ problems with Hispanic voters are, at this point, well-known and well-documented. But what of Asian voters, the other fast-growing part of the nonwhite population? A close look at political trends suggests that here too a problem could be emerging.

 

The Asian vote in 2020 was a relative bright spot for Democrats in that, unlike other components of the nonwhite vote, Democrats’ Presidential margins compared to 2016 suffered only a tiny decline (less than a point) compared to a 7 point decline among black voters and a 16 point decline among Hispanic voters (Catalist two party vote data). In addition, Asian turnout went up more than other racial groups including whites according to both the Census Bureau and Catalist.

 

Add in the fact that Asians are the fastest-growing racial group in the country and Democrats might have thought that, at least here, the nonwhite vote was an uncomplicated and burgeoning asset for them.

 

However, even in 2020 there were troubling signs of attrition in Asian support for Democrats. The Asian vote for Democratic Congressional candidates weakened in some key races, particularly in California. And in Presidential voting in New York City, the very fast-growing Asian population in Queens swung strongly toward Trump. Matthew Thomas on his substack analyzed the data:

 

More at the link: https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-coming-asian-voter

 

 

[Albwan]

More of this coming soon. People have had enough of the insanity, deception

and ineptness the marxist left brings.

[B-Man]

 

 

HISPANIC WOMEN WARMING TO GOP IN TEXAS

 

So says Politico, and it seems to be true. Certainly, Donald Trump made inroads among Hispanic voters in 2020 — both in Texas and elsewhere. And the GOP achieved further gains with this ethnic group in Texas elections held in 2021.

 

There are indications that Hispanic women are leading the charge. In Texas, according to Politico:

 

Hispanic women now serve as party chairs in the state’s four southernmost border counties, spanning a distance from Brownsville almost to Laredo — places where Trump made some of his biggest inroads with Latino voters.

 

A half-dozen of them are running for Congress across the state’s four House districts that border Mexico, including Monica De La Cruz, the GOP front-runner in one of Texas’ most competitive seats in the Rio Grande Valley.

 

One of these congressional candidates, Mayra Flores, says:

 

For so long, people here just never had Republicans knocking on their doors and calling them the way we did in 2020. The majority of us are women that did it then and are doing it now because we feel it’s our responsibility to keep the American Dream alive.

 

The part about the American Dream seems key to understanding why many Hispanics are warming to the GOP. That dream, widely derided as passé or a myth all along, still seems to resonate among Hispanics, many of whom migrated here hoping their children would enjoy it.

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/hispanic-women-warming-to-gop-in-texas.php

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, B-Man said:

 

 

HISPANIC WOMEN WARMING TO GOP IN TEXAS

 

So says Politico, and it seems to be true. Certainly, Donald Trump made inroads among Hispanic voters in 2020 — both in Texas and elsewhere. And the GOP achieved further gains with this ethnic group in Texas elections held in 2021.

 

There are indications that Hispanic women are leading the charge. In Texas, according to Politico:

 

Hispanic women now serve as party chairs in the state’s four southernmost border counties, spanning a distance from Brownsville almost to Laredo — places where Trump made some of his biggest inroads with Latino voters.

 

A half-dozen of them are running for Congress across the state’s four House districts that border Mexico, including Monica De La Cruz, the GOP front-runner in one of Texas’ most competitive seats in the Rio Grande Valley.

 

One of these congressional candidates, Mayra Flores, says:

 

For so long, people here just never had Republicans knocking on their doors and calling them the way we did in 2020. The majority of us are women that did it then and are doing it now because we feel it’s our responsibility to keep the American Dream alive.

 

The part about the American Dream seems key to understanding why many Hispanics are warming to the GOP. That dream, widely derided as passé or a myth all along, still seems to resonate among Hispanics, many of whom migrated here hoping their children would enjoy it.

 

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/hispanic-women-warming-to-gop-in-texas.php

 

 

 

Then why gerrymander them out? Let the people be equally represented 

[B-Man]

 

 

Exclusive poll: Inflation hits Latino support for Democrats. 

“Getting prices under control is very clearly the number one priority for the majority of Hispanics and Latinos, and it underscores the challenges Biden is facing now.”

 

https://www.axios.com/latino-democrats-inflation-poll-0d60e3ac-738d-4233-a3b8-8fecdfce4ba1.html

 

 

 

 

Flashback: Democrats are losing the multiracial working class on basic lifestyle issues.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/07/08/dems-are-losing-the-multiracial-working-class-on-basic-lifestyle-issues/

 

 

 

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

Remember when the Left and the NYT was pushing that "Replacement Theory"  ??

 

 

 

Biden’s Hispanic approval rating plummets to 26% in new poll:

Biden approval rating among Hispanics was at 55% last year.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-hispanic-approval-rating-plummets

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even Ruy Texeira, the originator of the “emerging Democratic majority” theory, is backpedaling.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/25/us/politics/ruy-teixeira-democrats.html

 

 

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

More from Ruy.

 

Time for the Democrats’ Chesa Boudin Moment!

 

In this context, it’s worth dwelling on the leading role of Asian voters in the recall for a moment. I wrote a while ago about The Democrats’ Coming Asian Voter Problem.

What happened in San Francisco is a near-perfect illustration of this emerging problem.

 

 

Start with the fact that Asians are the fastest-growing racial group in the country and Democrats have viewed their vote as an uncomplicated and burgeoning asset for them.

 

However, starting in 2020 there were troubling signs of attrition in Asian support for Democrats. The Asian vote for Democratic Congressional candidates weakened in some key races, particularly in California. And in Presidential voting in New York City, the very fast-growing Asian population in Queens swung strongly toward Trump. Matthew Thomas on his substack analyzed the data:

 

Precincts where at least 50% of residents are Asian swung 12 points toward Trump, the second-largest shift among racial enclaves in Queens. Again, the movement was larger in areas that are even more homogenous: precincts where at least 75% of residents are Asian had a pro-Trump swing of 16 points, with over a third of voters now backing the Republican nominee.

 

Since 2020, the danger signs have increased significantly, of which the Boudin recall is the latest example. According to Pew, Biden last year lost support twice as fast among Asian voters as among whites. And in the November Virginia gubernatorial election, results from the AP-NORC VoteCast survey (more reliable than the highly flawed exit polls) indicated that Virginia’s heavily Asian “other race” category, which gave Biden a strong 19 point advantage in 2020, slipped to a mere 6 point advantage for Democrat Terry McAuliffe in 2021. Republican Glenn Youngkin carried 46 percent of these voters in his upset victory.

 

The reasons for this slippage track perfectly with the results in San Francisco. One problem has been that Asians are worried about public safety and leery of a Democratic party that has become associated with “defund the police” and a soft approach to containing crime. Another has been that Asians, like Hispanics, are a constituency that does not harbor particularly radical views on the nature of American society and how it must be remade to cleanse it of intrinsic racism and white supremacy, a viewpoint increasingly identified with Democrats. They are far more interested in how they and their families can get ahead in actually-existing American society.

 

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/time-for-the-democrats-chesa-boudin?s=r

 

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-coming-asian-voter?s=w

 

 

 

[Doc]

More and more people are turning away from the Dems' far-left turn.  And thanks to Joke, no one will believe anyone is a centrist anymore.

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

More and more people are turning away from the Dems' far-left turn.  And thanks to Joke, no one will believe anyone is a centrist anymore.

The Dems are the moderate party 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

More from Ruy.

 

Time for the Democrats’ Chesa Boudin Moment!

 

In this context, it’s worth dwelling on the leading role of Asian voters in the recall for a moment. I wrote a while ago about The Democrats’ Coming Asian Voter Problem.

What happened in San Francisco is a near-perfect illustration of this emerging problem.

 

 

Start with the fact that Asians are the fastest-growing racial group in the country and Democrats have viewed their vote as an uncomplicated and burgeoning asset for them.

 

However, starting in 2020 there were troubling signs of attrition in Asian support for Democrats. The Asian vote for Democratic Congressional candidates weakened in some key races, particularly in California. And in Presidential voting in New York City, the very fast-growing Asian population in Queens swung strongly toward Trump. Matthew Thomas on his substack analyzed the data:

 

Precincts where at least 50% of residents are Asian swung 12 points toward Trump, the second-largest shift among racial enclaves in Queens. Again, the movement was larger in areas that are even more homogenous: precincts where at least 75% of residents are Asian had a pro-Trump swing of 16 points, with over a third of voters now backing the Republican nominee.

 

Since 2020, the danger signs have increased significantly, of which the Boudin recall is the latest example. According to Pew, Biden last year lost support twice as fast among Asian voters as among whites. And in the November Virginia gubernatorial election, results from the AP-NORC VoteCast survey (more reliable than the highly flawed exit polls) indicated that Virginia’s heavily Asian “other race” category, which gave Biden a strong 19 point advantage in 2020, slipped to a mere 6 point advantage for Democrat Terry McAuliffe in 2021. Republican Glenn Youngkin carried 46 percent of these voters in his upset victory.

 

The reasons for this slippage track perfectly with the results in San Francisco. One problem has been that Asians are worried about public safety and leery of a Democratic party that has become associated with “defund the police” and a soft approach to containing crime. Another has been that Asians, like Hispanics, are a constituency that does not harbor particularly radical views on the nature of American society and how it must be remade to cleanse it of intrinsic racism and white supremacy, a viewpoint increasingly identified with Democrats. They are far more interested in how they and their families can get ahead in actually-existing American society.

 

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/time-for-the-democrats-chesa-boudin?s=r

 

https://theliberalpatriot.substack.com/p/the-democrats-coming-asian-voter?s=w

 

 

 

 

 

 

Asian immigrants, I'll assume many of whom come from a place with a very recent history of dabbling in Communism, likely a massive reason for moving here - do they seriously think this version of the Democrat Party will appeal to them?

 

It's not going to go over well with folks from the Middle East either:

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Ds are beyond delusional.  Maybe the looming economic calamity (massive global inflation, unemployment, civil unrest) will snap these people back to reality.  But I doubt it.  They'll blame it on Putin.  

[Doc]

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The Dems are the moderate party 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[SoCal Deek]

22 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

 

 

This must be true....he has not one, not two, but THREE Ukrainian flags in his Twitter handle.  Truly ridiculous people. 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

                           

 

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

 

The Rise of Hispanic Religious Republicans

by George Neumayr

 

The New York Times is famous for its anthropological studies of conservatives — what wags have called “gorillas in the mist” coverage. The newspaper’s latest anthropological installment is “The Rise of the Far-Right Latina.” That smearing label tells us less about the three Hispanic Texas Republicans profiled in the piece than it does the paper’s hysterical liberal bias and the left’s general obtuseness. Even prosaic conservatism, grounded in the country’s history and traditions, qualifies as “far-right” to woke reporters like Jennifer Medina, who never bothers to examine in the article the “far-left” character of the Democratic Party and progressive movement that is driving Hispanics into the arms of the GOP.

 

https://spectator.org/the-rise-of-hispanic-religious-republicans/

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

Good thread on how Dems are doing real will in this area. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Good thread on how Dems are doing real will in this area. 

Dr Jill calls this “The breakfast taco bump!”.  

Edited July 12, 2022 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Dr Jill calls this “The breakfast taco bump!”.  

It's called turning red states blue

[Doc]

Won't help.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

27 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It's called turning red states blue

Maybe, but don’t get mad at me.  It was Dr. Jill who pitched the analogy.   The interesting thing is she actually considered her audience, thought about how to connect, and had those comments put on a teleprompter to be memorialized.  
 

Seriously, Tibs, she thought it was a compliment to compare Hispanic voters to a Breakfast Burrito at McDonalds.  
 

 

[Tiberius]

9 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Maybe, but don’t get mad at me.  It was Dr. Jill who pitched the analogy.   The interesting thing is she actually considered her audience, thought about how to connect, and had those comments put on a teleprompter to be memorialized.  
 

Seriously, Tibs, she thought it was a compliment to compare Hispanic voters to a Breakfast Burrito at McDonalds.  
 

 

This is what got you going? 

 

"Raul helped build this organization with the understanding that the diversity of this community, as distinct as the bodegas of the Bronx, as beautiful as the blossoms of Miami and as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio, is your strength," she said. 

 

Whatever

 

 

[Big Blitz]

 

 

2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics figuring out the Ds just like the kids and grandkids of early 20th century European immigrants did by the Reagan and 1994 Revolutions - still to this day.  These are the "white" voters of today they've completely left behind.   

 

Racist Dems thought minorities should just vote for the free stuff party forever.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

37 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

This is what got you going? 

 

"Raul helped build this organization with the understanding that the diversity of this community, as distinct as the bodegas of the Bronx, as beautiful as the blossoms of Miami and as unique as the breakfast tacos here in San Antonio, is your strength," she said. 

 

Whatever

 

 

Dude, no, that’s not at all what I got going.  That was Dr. Jill. 
 

I learned at a very early age not to compare ethnic groups to any member of the hand-held breakfast family, delicious though they might be.  I really assumed everyone learned that. 
 

Besides, I am not Hispanic.  Dr. Jill might describe me as part of a vibrant community of potato chip vendors, as distinct as the freckles on a Celtic face,  as beautiful as a well-choreographed step-dance, and as unique as the beverage options at the many pubs in Dublin. 
 

 

 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Dude, no, that’s not at all what I got going.  That was Dr. Jill. 
 

I learned at a very early age not to compare ethnic groups to any member of the hand-held breakfast family, delicious though they might be.  I really assumed everyone learned that. 
 

Besides, I am not Hispanic.  Dr. Jill might describe me as part of a vibrant community of potato chip vendors, as distinct as the freckles on a Celtic face,  as beautiful as a well-choreographed step-dance, and as unique as the beverage options at the many pubs in Dublin. 
 

 

 

She was saying they are a diverse community. Your point is stupid 

 

have any serious Latino organizations expressed criticism of this?