Tiberius Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, aristocrat said: They did. After he got busted for asking for a favor. Broke the law. Trump is trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiberius said: After he got busted for asking for a favor. Broke the law. Trump is trash So why did you say he didn't send them? Odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, aristocrat said: So why did you say he didn't send them? Odd Because he didn't until he was caught and had to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 And Biden didn't give money to Ukraine unless/until they fired Shokin. Which they did. They did not, however, investigate Joey and Hunter. When they absolutely should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, aristocrat said: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-admin-approves-sale-anti-tank-weapons-ukraine/story?id=65989898 https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/24/world/middleeast/american-commandos-russian-mercenaries-syria.html Trump seemed to deal with Russia just fine. So says he...he loved Putin and sold out others. He also loved North Korea and that went no where Rodman did more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Doc said: If the US wanted to take over Canada (why, I don't know?), Russia and China also couldn't do a damn thing to stop them. But it's a worldwide problem, not just the US's. For sure Russia has eyes on North Canada, but first an island in the Baltic belonging to Sweden is next on the list. The last 2 presidents, Obama and trump hurt world solidarity. Putin pushed this, Obama yapped and did nothing, trump hugged him and Putin continues on. Biden is over his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: For sure Russia has eyes on North Canada, but first an island in the Baltic belonging to Sweden is next on the list. The last 2 presidents, Obama and trump hurt world solidarity. Putin pushed this, Obama yapped and did nothing, trump hugged him and Putin continues on. Biden is over his head. He did nothing under Trump. Think that was a coincidence? He merely waited for the next Dem President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Just now, Doc said: He did nothing under Trump. Think that was a coincidence? He merely waited for the next Dem President. Some truth to this statement, trump was a wild card that he waited for him to leave is a real possibility. There will be another Cuban type crisis...with damaged relationships between US and France, Britain, Germany, Canada, Australia, Poland and others getting co-ordinated response will be difficult, and the US people gave no appetite to singularly help Ukraine or Sweden etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said: Some truth to this statement, trump was a wild card that he waited for him to leave is a real possibility. There will be another Cuban type crisis...with damaged relationships between US and France, Britain, Germany, Canada, Australia, Poland and others getting co-ordinated response will be difficult, and the US people gave no appetite to singularly help Ukraine or Sweden etc Well the Dems have been running on having someone other than America lead (America last, if you will), so now the chickens are coming home to roost. We'll see how this policy works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albwan Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Speaks for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, Albwan said: Speaks for itself. What a mess!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 46 minutes ago, Albwan said: Speaks for itself. Germany and France rely on Russian natural gas for heating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: Germany and France rely on Russian natural gas for heating. They do now. Thanks to Joey. But Trump was the puppet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Doc said: They do now. Thanks to Joey. But Trump was the puppet. True, trump was against it, but after turning on NATO publicly and the French and German leaders they told him to f off. So now Putin has gas power. 😅😅😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: Some truth to this statement, trump was a wild card that he waited for him to leave is a real possibility. There will be another Cuban type crisis...with damaged relationships between US and France, Britain, Germany, Canada, Australia, Poland and others getting co-ordinated response will be difficult, and the US people gave no appetite to singularly help Ukraine or Sweden etc Russian intelligence concluded that Trump was unpredictable and therefore dangerous. It wasn't so much what he would or wouldn't do but rather they couldn't play out the U.S. reaction to their actions with him in charge. So they hesitated to take any action. The Biden administration is very predictable and officials like Blinken are well known. Under Biden the U.S. will provide assistance but has already shown their hand by stating they will take no direct action or commit combat forces if hostilities break out. Biden has also taken expulsion from SWIFT off the table. With the two things Russia fears removed from the equation he's more or less signaled the U.S. will take no actions that Russia has any fear or concern over. Given this all of the European countries will take no direct action because they assess the U.S. will abandon them and hang them out to dry if there is an escalation. Also, most countries see economic integration with Russia as beneficial to their long-term interests and a European centric strategy that benefits their interests instead of benefiting the U.S. Putin knows all of this. While the U.S. might welcome a proxy war against Russia that would tie up their forces and distract them from other interests in places like the Middle East I don't understand why anyone thinks Russia has any interest in Ukraine other than protecting their access to the Black Sea and keeping NATO and US forces out of Ukraine and off their border. Occupying the country is not a goal as it's a financial drain and financial disaster and in need of constant aid from external benefactors. I see the idea of an invasion as a media talking point and negotiating tactic more than a likely outcome. The most likely outcome is the situation slowly de-escalates and disappears from the headlines. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 43 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Russian intelligence concluded that Trump was unpredictable and therefore dangerous. It wasn't so much what he would or wouldn't do but rather they couldn't play out the U.S. reaction to their actions with him in charge. So they hesitated to take any action. The Biden administration is very predictable and officials like Blinken are well known. Under Biden the U.S. will provide assistance but has already shown their hand by stating they will take no direct action or commit combat forces if hostilities break out. Biden has also taken expulsion from SWIFT off the table. With the two things Russia fears removed from the equation he's more or less signaled the U.S. will take no actions that Russia has any fear or concern over. Given this all of the European countries will take no direct action because they assess the U.S. will abandon them and hang them out to dry if there is an escalation. Also, most countries see economic integration with Russia as beneficial to their long-term interests and a European centric strategy that benefits their interests instead of benefiting the U.S. Putin knows all of this. While the U.S. might welcome a proxy war against Russia that would tie up their forces and distract them from other interests in places like the Middle East I don't understand why anyone thinks Russia has any interest in Ukraine other than protecting their access to the Black Sea and keeping NATO and US forces out of Ukraine and off their border. Occupying the country is not a goal as it's a financial drain and financial disaster and in need of constant aid from external benefactors. I see the idea of an invasion as a media talking point and negotiating tactic more than a likely outcome. The most likely outcome is the situation slowly de-escalates and disappears from the headlines. I believe they want Ukraine because they are too close to becoming a democracy and a light for more. Don't see money as concern, Russia has little concern for citizens, many of which work in Russia. The small island jn the Baltic may be the real push. One thing for sure, Biden is out of his league, and the US is not prepared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Niagara Bill said: True, trump was against it, but after turning on NATO publicly and the French and German leaders they told him to f off. So now Putin has gas power. 😅😅😅 Yup. Again, thanks to Joey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 What a terrible administration. US families are now advised to leave Ukraine as we are now gearing up to defend Ukraine from Russia. We are going to get the war the corporations and politicians want now. Congrats on voting this dolt in you stupid, stupid libs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Good Lord. There is no speaking to Biden. You speak to his handlers. That does not fly with world leaders. German chancellor turned down Biden invite to discuss Ukraine crisis - Der Spiegel German Chancellor Olaf Scholz turned down an invite from U.S. President Joe Biden to discuss the Ukraine crisis, German magazine Der Spiegel said on Friday. Scholz did not accept the invitation due to a full schedule, including a trip to Madrid, as well as the desire to show that he was present as Germany grapples with the COVID-19 pandemic, according to Der Spiegel. A government spokesman declined to comment on the report. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/german-chancellor-turned-down-biden-invite-discuss-ukraine-crisis-der-spiegel-2022-01-21/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: What a terrible administration. US families are now advised to leave Ukraine as we are now gearing up to defend Ukraine from Russia. We are going to get the war the corporations and politicians want now. Congrats on voting this dolt in you stupid, stupid libs. Except it wasn't just libs. And those who voted 3rd party wasted their time and have no business complaining about how things are right now. Edited January 22, 2022 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts