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1 hour ago, Process said:

Haha

 

Did you watch the game? They played the falcons. The falcons scored 9 points. 

 

They didn't win because of taysom hill lmao. He looked aa expected, not an NFL qb. 

 

Wait until he plays a real team . Lucky for the saints, that won't happen for a while, they play the broncos and falcons again the next two weeks. 

Yes I did.....18-23 (one drop) for 230 (225 through 3), 50 yards rushing & 2 TDs (another called back).....  You're really nit-picking to find fault.

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Jameis Winston when he heard the news Brees is out for awhile.   Jameis WInston watching Taysom Hill taking 1st team reps.  

FYI if you play fantasy on ESPN, you can still use taysom hill in the TE spot this week 

It’s not Saints responsibility to compare TH to all NFL qb’s. They wisely played him over JW in this game. I think he’s a weapon. In the beginning I thought it was silly. But SP pulling a first ballot HF qb in certain situations is pretty bold. And it’s paying off!

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9 hours ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Some people just hate to admit they were wrong.....  

 

78% completion % (including a drop), 50 yards rushing & 2 TD's....  Yet some find fault in it.....  Wow....

 

Proper coaching, weapons around him, good position to be in, not sure why anyone is surprised.

 

 

 

I was one who said he would succeed.  

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On 11/23/2020 at 7:35 AM, MJS said:

Hill threw it a lot in college. He has been used as a gadget player in the NFL. But I don't see why some think he can't throw it. I thought he threw the ball pretty well, minus a few bad decisions.

 

Before this game he had barely thrown it at all in the NFL. I don't see why he is such a polarizing player. Some people seem to hate him for no reason.

 

My only issue with him is he is already 30 years old. He isn't the long term answer once Brees retires. If he was 25 it would look like a real possibility.

 

 

Chris Simms said as far back as last season that he thinks Hill is being groomed as their next QB. He said if it didn't work out that it wouldn't hurt the Saints so badly since he can be a gadget guy as a fallback.

 

But that he thought that Payton was confident he could put together an offense that Taysom could win in.

 

Made sense to me.

 

The age is indeed a drawback but perhaps not a deathstroke.

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12 hours ago, Process said:

Haha

 

Did you watch the game? They played the falcons. The falcons scored 9 points. 

 

They didn't win because of taysom hill lmao. He looked aa expected, not an NFL qb. 

 

Wait until he plays a real team . Lucky for the saints, that won't happen for a while, they play the broncos and falcons again the next two weeks. 

 

 

It's not Hill's problem the Falcons scored nine. His own offense scored 24 in his first game as a starter. Respectable. A decent start, though certainly he still has a lot to prove.

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14 hours ago, Process said:

Haha

 

Did you watch the game? They played the falcons. The falcons scored 9 points. 

 

They didn't win because of taysom hill lmao. He looked aa expected, not an NFL qb. 

 

Wait until he plays a real team . Lucky for the saints, that won't happen for a while, they play the broncos and falcons again the next two weeks. 

I watched him. I though he did pretty well. He had some bad plays to be sure, but also some really good ones. He had a few passes that were right on the money that had me thinking he could play QB in this league.

 

It was his first time playing QB since college, pretty much. I'm sure there is some rust there throwing the ball, even.

 

I really don't understand the hate. But then again, I didn't with with Josh Allen either. Some people just choose a hill to die on, I suppose.

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4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

He played alright but he’s not a starting nfl qb over the course of the season.  The Saints are a great team. Nice gimmick player though.

 

and that TE BS cost me a a fantasy game!!!

What a load.....  Did nothing wrong (I guess he did fumble) and went up and down the field.  

 

Looking for negatives.....  Geez reminds me of how people judged a certain Josh Allen the first two years.

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Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

What a load.....  Did nothing wrong (I guess he did fumble) and went up and down the field.  

 

Looking for negatives.....  Geez reminds me of how people judged a certain Josh Allen the first two years.

also reminds me what a certain someone here does with the coaching staff when he doesn't get what he wants.

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33 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

What a load.....  Did nothing wrong (I guess he did fumble) and went up and down the field.  

 

Looking for negatives.....  Geez reminds me of how people judged a certain Josh Allen the first two years.

 

33 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

What a load.....  Did nothing wrong (I guess he did fumble) and went up and down the field.  

 

Looking for negatives.....  Geez reminds me of how people judged a certain Josh Allen the first two years.

The Falcons are the 2nd worst pass defense in the nfl. His longest pass looked like a punt.  
 

and I’ve been tough on Allen but he was a much better prospect.  He has a cannon and speed. Hill is like a rb playing qb. Oh and he’s like Brady’s age. 
 

payton is a great coach and props for getting him ready to play.  But he would be terrible if he has to start a full season.  He’s like a much, much worse version of Lamar. 
 

and I had the stats wrong. The Falcons give up 406 yards per game and 300 yards passing.  They are an awful defense. 

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45 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

The Falcons are the 2nd worst pass defense in the nfl. His longest pass looked like a punt.  
 

and I’ve been tough on Allen but he was a much better prospect.  He has a cannon and speed. Hill is like a rb playing qb. Oh and he’s like Brady’s age. 
 

payton is a great coach and props for getting him ready to play.  But he would be terrible if he has to start a full season.  He’s like a much, much worse version of Lamar. 
 

and I had the stats wrong. The Falcons give up 406 yards per game and 300 yards passing.  They are an awful defense. 

We know your defense of Lamar.....  Hill did not even attempt a pass in the 4th quarter, thus was well on his way to 300 through 3.  Talk about looking for excuses.  I don't know how good he is (or can be), but for one game he was better then good.....  Atl has played a very tough schedule and some of the best QB's in the NFL.....  

 

53 minutes ago, teef said:

also reminds me what a certain someone here does with the coaching staff when he doesn't get what he wants.

What does coaching have to do with it.....  Oh yea, if the Bills had Payton, their offense and Allen would be better (and much better in 2018 & 2019 too).....  

 

Yes in McD we trust.....🤩 

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12 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

It's not Hill's problem the Falcons scored nine. His own offense scored 24 in his first game as a starter. Respectable. A decent start, though certainly he still has a lot to prove.


it’s not his fault but certainly to his advantage as it takes a great deal of pressure off

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52 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

 

The Falcons are the 2nd worst pass defense in the nfl. His longest pass looked like a punt.  
 

and I’ve been tough on Allen but he was a much better prospect.  He has a cannon and speed. Hill is like a rb playing qb. Oh and he’s like Brady’s age. 
 

payton is a great coach and props for getting him ready to play.  But he would be terrible if he has to start a full season.  He’s like a much, much worse version of Lamar. 
 

and I had the stats wrong. The Falcons give up 406 yards per game and 300 yards passing.  They are an awful defense. 


yup. He did everything you’d ask of a backup and got a break in his biggest play. 
 

It’s one of those process vs results things. His stat line was solid, but there were red flags consistent with his resume on display. I wouldn’t suddenly think Barkley is a starter if he beats the jets with a nice stat line. 

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1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

 

 

What does coaching have to do with it.....  Oh yea, if the Bills had Payton, their offense and Allen would be better (and much better in 2018 & 2019 too).....  

 

Yes in McD we trust.....🤩 

you don't know that at all.   for some reason you just don't want to admit that allen needed to get better for this offense to click.  

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9 minutes ago, teef said:

you don't know that at all.   for some reason you just don't want to admit that allen needed to get better for this offense to click.  

Called an opinion.  Seeing what Payton accomplished with Hill in his first start further tells me that McD's philosophy held him back.  Also see Justin Herbert....

 

Again jmho.....

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2 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Called an opinion.  Seeing what Payton accomplished with Hill in his first start further tells me that McD's philosophy held him back.  Also see Justin Herbert....

 

Again jmho.....

fair enough.  i just think allen had a different learning curve than others for a number of reasons.  we all knew his success wouldn't likely be immediate.  

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10 minutes ago, teef said:

fair enough.  i just think allen had a different learning curve than others for a number of reasons.  we all knew his success wouldn't likely be immediate.  


saying that hill had a good game isn’t fair enough in that comparison. 

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