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Final prediction: any given Sunday he’s a huge wild card. He’s late on reads, and not terribly accurate. Some weeks will be ugly.
 

But he will occasionally hit the chunk play. Probably a 100-150 yards average kind of guy but occasionally a bigger day. 

 

even with small ball this team can win some games. 

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Jameis Winston when he heard the news Brees is out for awhile.   Jameis WInston watching Taysom Hill taking 1st team reps.  

FYI if you play fantasy on ESPN, you can still use taysom hill in the TE spot this week 

46 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

even with small ball this team can win some games. 

I don't watch them often enough to really know, but from what I have seen out of that franchise recently I have a really hard time trusting that defense if it's not playing with a lead.

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Just now, Simon said:

I don't watch them often enough to really know, but from what I have seen out of that franchise recently I have a really hard time trusting that defense if it's not playing with a lead.


they run hot/cold. When on they can be elite. Averaging like 15 points allowed since start of October.

 

even last year - teddy b got a lot of credit but they beat Dallas without scoring a touchdown during that stretch. 

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24 minutes ago, jlgarsh said:

Hill should have had a TD pass a few minutes ago but Michael Thomas dropped a well thrown ball that hit him in the hands. He’s had some good throws and terrible ones today, but that was a brutal drop by Thomas.


the drop was ugly but they happen to all qbs. 
 

so far it’s about the game I expected. He just happened to hit the wild deep throw so it looks a bit better on paper. But that was My big qualifier- he heaves erratic deep balls that sometimes happen to be caught because it’s hard to defend a deep ball 25 yards off target but with just enough loft for a receiver to see and react to. That Minnesota playoff game had one too.  

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7 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

He's no Peterman.

 

Obviously like many on TSW, people have made their minds up about him and want to see him fail.

 

Looks like an NFL QB to me.  


he’s consistently been standing back there slow on the reads, and his biggest pass might be the worst throw of the day by any nfl qb. 

 

hes grinding out a Tebow-esque game so far. But Tebow won quite a few playing safe with a good defense. And that works for a month here.

That TD throw was awful too. 
 

the dude heaves some balls downfield though 

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28 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


he’s consistently been standing back there slow on the reads, and his biggest pass might be the worst throw of the day by any nfl qb. 

 

hes grinding out a Tebow-esque game so far. But Tebow won quite a few playing safe with a good defense. And that works for a month here.

That TD throw was awful too. 
 

the dude heaves some balls downfield though 

You don't like him.... I get it....  Again were you a Peterman fan?  First game 2 TD's, 77% completion %, 225 yards to date, one dropped TD, another bomb TD called back by penalty.

 

What more do you want?

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46 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

You don't like him.... I get it....  Again were you a Peterman fan?  First game 2 TD's, 77% completion %, 225 yards to date, one dropped TD, another bomb TD called back by penalty.

 

What more do you want?

 

as a saints season ticket holder I’m more invested in his success than anyone here. And like having the guy on the team. 
 

he played a good game from a backup qb.
 

but that TD called back was very much underthrown.... and if giving him credit for plays called back can I take off credit for that deep ball where the punter could’ve gotten it there more accurately? Late and behind are common issues he’s had and those were still on display today.

 

wasnt a peterman fan - didn’t think he had the arm no matter what college or pre-season stats were or what a good guy he is 

 

enjoyed fitz- didn’t think he or that season with the fast start was sustainable because of skill concerns 
 

like taysom a lot as a player, but not as a franchise qb. 

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18 minutes ago, Doc said:

Still not impressed.  But I'll give him the rest of the season and gladly eat crow if I turn out to be wrong. 


 

put another way, if the season ended today, and he was a free agent- no one would be handing him a starting job but all 32 clubs would be glad to have the guy on their roster in some role. 

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21 minutes ago, Doc said:

Still not impressed.  But I'll give him the rest of the season and gladly eat crow if I turn out to be wrong. 

 

I'm guessing he gets 2 more games, including another one against that generous Atlanta D.  Credit the offensive gameplan for hiding his passing limitations, but that's the type of player than when you "make him be a QB" will fall apart real quick.

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21 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

put another way, if the season ended today, and he was a free agent- no one would be handing him a starting job but all 32 clubs would be glad to have the guy on their roster in some role. 

 

For sure.  But for what salary is the question?  At $16M, like he'll make next year, no way.

 

18 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

I'm guessing he gets 2 more games, including another one against that generous Atlanta D.  Credit the offensive gameplan for hiding his passing limitations, but that's the type of player than when you "make him be a QB" will fall apart real quick.

 

Yup.  And credit the NO defense for holding Atlanta to just 9 points.

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OK, I'm not prepared to eat a crow pie on Taysom Hill just yet.  I'd like to see him face a better team first, and I only saw pieces of the game

But I will roll out a pie crust and have it ready to go in the freezer.

 

He generated far more passing offense than I thought he would

 

NO defense is FIERCE though

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

For sure.  But for what salary is the question?  At $16M, like he'll make next year, no way.

 

 

Yup.  And credit the NO defense for holding Atlanta to just 9 points.


the salary and role are always where these get dicey. People act like I’m a hater and then say they’d give him like $5m plus incentives to essentially be what he’s been in Nola prior to this.

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