thebandit27 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I think Ford would be a very good guard. I’ve felt that way since we’ll before the draft. It was also obvious that Nsekhe was the better RT last year, which is why he was consistently out-earning Ford in the snap share in the weeks prior to his injury. If Ford has improved, the depth on the OL will be markedly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Doc said: If he had made All-Pro in 2017 and then played the next two seasons fully at right tackle, I’d agree with you. Now I’m not expecting All-Pro play with the Bills, but above average at least. He gave up 12 sacks last year. If Guard and Tackle are really that interchangeable, that number really seems like trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: He gave up 12 sacks last year. If Guard and Tackle are really that interchangeable, that number really seems like trouble. Could be residual effects of the injury. Also he played the majority of games (9) on the left side. I think that playing G and T on the same side are somewhat interchangeable but not switching sides. Edited August 13, 2020 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Doc said: If he becomes a Pro Bowl OG, is it still poor value? To quote "Dandy" Don Meredith,: “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, BillsVet said: To quote "Dandy" Don Meredith,: “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas.” He just came off his rookie year. Again, if he becomes a Pro Bowl OG, is it still poor value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 This is what any top 40 draft pick, 3rd year player without a defined roster role should say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Survivor Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: This is what any top 40 draft pick, 3rd year player without a defined roster role should say. Second year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Bills Survivor said: Second year. second yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Nscheke is better than Ford and it wasn't even close last season. He's also been in the league 10 years longer. He is what he is. Ford just came of his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Doc said: He just came off his rookie year. Again, if he becomes a Pro Bowl OG, is it still poor value? Do you really believe he's going to the Pro Bowl this season? Let's be serious and stop with the hopes and wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, BillsVet said: Do you really believe he's going to the Pro Bowl this season? Let's be serious and stop with the hopes and wishes. Why can't you answer the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Doc said: Why can't you answer the question? Because the question is unrealistic Doc. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Because the question is unrealistic Doc. Have a nice day. Everything @Doc said is just going way over your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Because the question is unrealistic Doc. Have a nice day. It's unrealistic that Ford could become a Pro Bowl OG? Oh, OK. 1 minute ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Everything @Doc said is just going way over your head. No, it's not. His position is that they gave up too much for Ford, but if he becomes a Pro Bowl OG, it will actually have been a bargain. He doesn't want to admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Doc said: It's unrealistic that Ford could become a Pro Bowl OG? Oh, OK. No, it's not. His position is that they gave up too much for Ford, but if he becomes a Pro Bowl OG, it will actually have been a bargain. He doesn't want to admit that. Maybe I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: Maybe I was just giving him the benefit of the doubt? No, I was. Being willfully ignorant is better than plain old ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 4 hours ago, BillsVet said: Because the question is unrealistic Doc. Have a nice day. You have the hardest time keeping up with conversations.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Understood... doesn't mean he will get better at the position. If Nscheke or Williams demonstrate they are better they will start over him... or at least until they give up on the split series thing they did with Ford/Nscheke last season. The odds are likely he will get better. But yes, the best man will play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 I think Ford belongs at RG.. I think he could be an All Pro there. Doesn’t have the length, athleticism or feet to play RT.. Still an extremely versatile lineman which is valuable but I think with Mongo out Ford should slide into RG and Nsekhe or Williams should give it a go at RT.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: I think Ford belongs at RG.. I think he could be an All Pro there. Doesn’t have the length, athleticism or feet to play RT.. Still an extremely versatile lineman which is valuable but I think with Mongo out Ford should slide into RG and Nsekhe or Williams should give it a go at RT.. so Winters is a backup then in your projection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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