Trump's railing about schools reopening, so might as well talk about it

[BillStime]

You can’t fix stupid but you can vote it out 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rob's House]

If I could only follow one person on Twitter it might be Matt Walsh. He always says what I think more concisely than I can.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

VIRGINIA POSTREL:

 

 Reopening Schools Is Critical. Teachers Should Do More to Help: Coronavirus risks can be successfully managed, but a powerful lobby is blocking the classroom door.

 

When the Los Angeles Unified School District announced on Monday that it will not resume any in-person instruction this fall, it was a political victory for teachers and a defeat for families, science and opportunity for all.

 

The teachers’ union opposed reopening schools amid the continuing rise in Covid-19 cases locally, and lobbied for an early resolution to eliminate uncertainty.

 

Individual teachers were adamant about not taking risks. “As a teacher of 20 years, I can tell you there is NO WAY I would agree to go back to the classroom this year without hospital-grade PPE,” one wrote on the NextDoor social media site.

 

“I’ve taught for 15 years,” wrote another. “I catch every cold, sniffle and cough that enters my room. Call me selfish but I’m not willing to die so we can be less inconvenienced.”

 

Parents weren’t thrilled, however. “The prospect of another few months, an additional semester or, God forbid, a full year of studying from home is enough to make many parents, and their kids, burst into tears,” wrote Kerry Cavanaugh, a Los Angeles Times editorial writer with two kids in district schools. Political leaders, she complained, “have dedicated far more energy in reopening restaurants, bars and tattoo parlors than in figuring out how to safely educate the next generation. Schools are essential but they’ve been treated like optional services.”

 

Cavanaugh’s kids aren’t typical. Most L.A. public-school students are poor (nearly 80 percent qualify for free lunches) and Latino (73 percent). Although most aren’t themselves immigrants, about one in five is still learning English. Assuming parents still have jobs, they are likely to be essential workers who have to leave the house every day.

 

These students and their parents are not, in other words, the people debating and deciding whether schools should resume in-person instruction. They have no voice in the discussion. Yet they bear the brunt of the burden—and provide a central justification for public schools. Tax-funded education is supposed to give every child a chance to learn, regardless of income, to the economic and civic benefit of the general public.

 

 

Coronavirus policy in many places is being made by a coalition of Karens and activists who have less skin in the game than average people, much less the disadvantaged.

 

 

 

 

[FireChans]

Teachers are honestly some of the most annoying people on the planet.

 

Pick a career that by definition is the path of least resistance with good benefits, decent salaries and bare minimum expectations (show up to work hungover and put on a movie, the horror!) 

 

Work after 3 pm “grading tests” and they act like they are working in the coal mine. Ditto for working on vacation, as if no other American has obligations when they are off.

 

Constantly cry and complain how just IMPORTANT it is for little Johnny to learn precalculus or write in cursive.

 

Demand more money because of the above and use the kids as a weapon (I had to buy colored pencils for the class for $20! I need a higher salary!)

 

And now, of course, even though they have bitched for a decade how important their job is, now it’s not THAT important that they go back to work despite still being paid.

 

And of course, it’s for the kids’ safety, even though more kids die from the flu every year.

 

Teaching is the career of choice for cowards, lazy folks and whiners and it’s no surprise that when stuff like this happens, they whine that the guy stocking the shelves at Wegmans needs to go back to work but not them.

Edited July 20, 2020 by FireChans

[123719bwiqrb]

38 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Teachers are honestly some of the most annoying people on the planet.

 

Pick a career that by definition is the path of least resistance with good benefits, decent salaries and bare minimum expectations (show up to work hungover and put on a movie, the horror!) 

 

Work after 3 pm “grading tests” and they act like they are working in the coal mine. Ditto for working on vacation, as if no other American has obligations when they are off.

 

Constantly cry and complain how just IMPORTANT it is for little Johnny to learn precalculus or write in cursive.

 

Demand more money because of the above and use the kids as a weapon (I had to buy colored pencils for the class for $20! I need a higher salary!)

 

And now, of course, even though they have bitched for a decade how important their job is, now it’s not THAT important that they go back to work despite still being paid.

 

And of course, it’s for the kids’ safety, even though more kids die from the flu every year.

 

Teaching is the career of choice for cowards, lazy folks and whiners and it’s no surprise that when stuff like this happens, they whine that the guy stocking the shelves at Wegmans needs to go back to work but not them.

 

But they'll make some sweet azz Tik-Toks this fall.

[IDBillzFan]

38 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Teachers are honestly some of the most annoying people on the planet.

 

Most of the loudest teachers are just doing their union's bidding. What they're not grasping, and likely will never grasp, is that many parents are not in a position to quit their job so they can stay home with their third grader because a teacher is afraid they'll be part of the 1% of Americans who die from Covid.

 

This could end badly for public education, long term, which is why you see the unions doing everything in their power to crush charter schools, private schools, or any kind of school choice. Parents are simply not going to understand why they have to quit their jobs AND pay for teachers to stay at home.

 

I'll be curious to see how the red states handle this as we all know the blue states will hit their knees to the unions faster than Kamala Harris at a Willie Brown fundraiser.

[plenzmd1]

23 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Most of the loudest teachers are just doing their union's bidding. What they're not grasping, and likely will never grasp, is that many parents are not in a position to quit their job so they can stay home with their third grader because a teacher is afraid they'll be part of the 1% of Americans who die from Covid.

 

This could end badly for public education, long term, which is why you see the unions doing everything in their power to crush charter schools, private schools, or any kind of school choice. Parents are simply not going to understand why they have to quit their jobs AND pay for teachers to stay at home.

 

I'll be curious to see how the red states handle this as we all know the blue states will hit their knees to the unions faster than Kamala Harris at a Willie Brown fundraiser.

wife and I were just talking about this. Friend of hers opeartes/owns several of  a higher end "pre-schools  franchise here in Richmond. Prints money in normal times. Now, she is actively looking for retail space to do grade 1-8 instruction during the day...and man it will not be cheap.but the demand from her clients is so great she said she has to do it. And the divide will grow ever larger still between those who can afford this and those who cant.

 

Anecdotally, also found out the private school here in Richmond where my kids went K-12( Russell Wilson went k-12 too!) is bursting at the seams with new applications as parents try to find any solution to getting their kids in school, now that most school districts here are going virtual for at least the first 9 weeks. Collegiate is doing 5 days on campus, in person , instruction. Good for them!

 

And again, the divide will grow even greater

[IDBillzFan]

12 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

wife and I were just talking about this. Friend of hers opeartes/owns several of  a higher end "pre-schools  franchise here in Richmond. Prints money in normal times. Now, she is actively looking for retail space to do grade 1-8 instruction during the day...and man it will not be cheap.but the demand from her clients is so great she said she has to do it. And the divide will grow ever larger still between those who can afford this and those who cant.

 

Anecdotally, also found out the private school here in Richmond where my kids went K-12( Russell Wilson went k-12 too!) is bursting at the seams with new applications as parents try to find any solution to getting their kids in school, now that most school districts here are going virtual for at least the first 9 weeks. Collegiate is doing 5 days on campus, in person , instruction. Good for them!

 

And again, the divide will grow even greater

 

One of the dumbest things I've seen making the social media rounds from the usual leftists is this meme suggesting teachers should quit their job and get hired by parents to home school their children, insisting they'd triple their income and work with less kids.

 

All that does is show how little people know about home-schooling.

[Taro T]

7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

wife and I were just talking about this. Friend of hers opeartes/owns several of  a higher end "pre-schools  franchise here in Richmond. Prints money in normal times. Now, she is actively looking for retail space to do grade 1-8 instruction during the day...and man it will not be cheap.but the demand from her clients is so great she said she has to do it. And the divide will grow ever larger still between those who can afford this and those who cant.

 

Anecdotally, also found out the private school here in Richmond where my kids went K-12( Russell Wilson went k-12 too!) is bursting at the seams with new applications as parents try to find any solution to getting their kids in school, now that most school districts here are going virtual for at least the first 9 weeks. Collegiate is doing 5 days on campus, in person , instruction. Good for them!

And again, the divide will grow even greater

 

And that is one of the most absolute frustrating things about the lockdowns and the media & political frenzy about the BLM protests.  (Not to imply that the lockdowns & protests are related.)  But while we are watching wide swaths of the cultural guardians giving extreme lip service to the concept that the lives of black Americans are far more important than we politically historically make them these same guardians are sitting idly by as policies that will disproportionately hurt black children are being contemplated and shortly will be implemented.  And not 1 friggin' word from any of them.

 

Not that we needed any more, but this is unquestionably proof that the people pushing this narrative so hard don't actually believe it.  If they did, they'd be up in arms.  Sooooo frustrating.

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Teachers are honestly some of the most annoying people on the planet.

 

Pick a career that by definition is the path of least resistance with good benefits, decent salaries and bare minimum expectations (show up to work hungover and put on a movie, the horror!) 

 

Work after 3 pm “grading tests” and they act like they are working in the coal mine. Ditto for working on vacation, as if no other American has obligations when they are off.

 

Constantly cry and complain how just IMPORTANT it is for little Johnny to learn precalculus or write in cursive.

 

Demand more money because of the above and use the kids as a weapon (I had to buy colored pencils for the class for $20! I need a higher salary!)

 

And now, of course, even though they have bitched for a decade how important their job is, now it’s not THAT important that they go back to work despite still being paid.

 

And of course, it’s for the kids’ safety, even though more kids die from the flu every year.

 

Teaching is the career of choice for cowards, lazy folks and whiners and it’s no surprise that when stuff like this happens, they whine that the guy stocking the shelves at Wegmans needs to go back to work but not them.

I will disagree with you on this fashion- 80% of teachers are good at their jobs and are not whiners like being presented. I want to go to face to face now. The media though loves the whiners and incompetent to be shown as examples. I am currently pissed because here in orange county FL we teachers built up a ton of good will doing a great job under tough circumstances which is now being pissed away by a lazy and paranoid minority.

[transplantbillsfan]

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

19 hours ago, FireChans said:

Teaching is the career of choice for cowards, lazy folks and whiners and it’s no surprise that when stuff like this happens, they whine that the guy stocking the shelves at Wegmans needs to go back to work but not them.

 

What profession are you in?

[Orlando Buffalo]

22 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

This is not stating anything except they can not conclusively state teens do not transfer it( that was a lot of nots) basically the evidence is not definitive either way.

[Orlando Buffalo]

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/not-sacrifice-myself-says-teacher-fed-back-school-190200955--abc-news-topstories.html

 

This is an embarrassing article from a teacher. Literally states " don't try and convince me, I will rip you a new one", or in other words she is not interested in facts or logic since her emotions reign supreme. Later on states how she is expected to be a martyr because she is teacher, because martyrs usually have to die for a cause greater than themselves and I am quite certain she does not see anything as greater than her. Finally she brings up gun control and school shootings, I would use logic about actual numbers and chance of random shootings but she is apparently cool with kids in major cities getting shot as long as she does not have to deal with it.

[FireChans]

2 hours ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

What profession are you in?

Health care.

[transplantbillsfan]

On 7/20/2020 at 12:40 PM, FireChans said:

Teachers are honestly some of the most annoying people on the planet.

 

Pick a career that by definition is the path of least resistance with good benefits, decent salaries and bare minimum expectations (show up to work hungover and put on a movie, the horror!) 

 

Work after 3 pm “grading tests” and they act like they are working in the coal mine. Ditto for working on vacation, as if no other American has obligations when they are off.

 

Constantly cry and complain how just IMPORTANT it is for little Johnny to learn precalculus or write in cursive.

 

Demand more money because of the above and use the kids as a weapon (I had to buy colored pencils for the class for $20! I need a higher salary!)

 

And now, of course, even though they have bitched for a decade how important their job is, now it’s not THAT important that they go back to work despite still being paid.

 

And of course, it’s for the kids’ safety, even though more kids die from the flu every year.

 

Teaching is the career of choice for cowards, lazy folks and whiners and it’s no surprise that when stuff like this happens, they whine that the guy stocking the shelves at Wegmans needs to go back to work but not them.

 

Wow.

 

You seem like a pretty bitter and ignorant human being who knows very little about anything, particularly the teaching profession.

[Big Blitz]

TENNESSEE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH WRITES PERFECT LETTER ON WHY KIDS NEED SCHOOL AND SPORTS

 

“....What is the endpoint of this?” Perhaps a vaccine will soon be developed. We don’t know that for sure though, and we don’t know its effectiveness either. We have to begin to think of what the world looks like if Covid-19 never goes away.

 

For my part, I do not accept the last three and a half months as a model for what that world will be.

 

Let the young people be raised and formed. The risk to them is minimal. Protect the most vulnerable. Be creative in our solutions to this.

 

Please let them go to school. Let them play."

 

https://www.outkick.com/tennessee-high-school-football-coach-writes-perfect-letter-on-why-kids-need-school-and-sports/

[transplantbillsfan]

9 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

This is not stating anything except they can not conclusively state teens do not transfer it( that was a lot of nots) basically the evidence is not definitive either way.

 

You're right, it's not definitive and they acknowledge several limitations, but you're conveniently (and probably tactically) twisting the indications of the findings of this study with what you say here.