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12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

New Zealand

 

South Korea KBO Baseball

 

 

 

Germany Bundesliga

 

 

Now what might differ between those countries and ours? 

Hmmmm  🤔

 

Pssssst: what if I told you.... the difference is not China?

 


Hapless, you beat me to it and personally thank you. Bilz, I understand you’re comment on China and yes, all information points to it starting there and not handled well by them in the beginning, but as Hapless points out, we didn’t handle this pandemic well at all and acted too slow and poorly so as a result, it has spread like wildfire here.  We tried to minimize and do very little until too late.

 

On a personal note, there must be TBD posters who are Chinese American on this board.  This hits home for me as my daughter, my Chinese American daughter who we adopted 16 years ago this month at 10 months ago after having two boys biologically has felt the pain of looking different.  She attended until the quarantine a Christian school down here.  Her classmates brutally teased her relentlessly that it was somehow her fault for the virus until my ex and I finally stepped in with the principal.  It stopped and then the quarantine started.  I had to see her come home sobbing a lot, even though she is normally a very happy easy going girl. Please don’t be narrow minded as my daughter is just as much an American as you or I.  
 

I don’t blame people from Africa for the terrible diseases that have some from there, nor I hope my ancestors didn’t blame people from Europe when the Spanish Flu that killed far more people than this virus.  I’m not upset, just asking consider you’re audience as many of us may have a connection to China like my last girlfriend who is a wonderful person.

 

Bottom line is we need to take the right steps to protect ourselves during these times.  I still believe we’ll have some sort of season, probably with no fans, and maybe truncated into say 10-12 games.  I understand the NFLPA’s stance, yet if the players want to practice together, it’s up to them and their families.  If they are smart they would take lots of precautions for example not taking a pic of the players there not six feet from each other like our guys.  It’s just another example unfortunately many young people not taking this virus seriously, and not keeping six feet.  The skill guys can if they work at it stay away from each other and use fresh balls where they have a young person wiping them down after each play.  Sounds silly, but this is the world we are in right now.

 

Lastly, not just them, but hope all of you stay safe, and I am painfully aware how hard this is on all of us in our daily lives and our wallets, but we have to do it to get this virus under some kind of control.

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13 hours ago, LeviF91 said:


Centralized power and strong borders? Like, NZ is a couple islands and South Korea has one border with a country they’re technically at war with. Not to mention the differences between East Asian societies and their view of government vs. western ideals. 
 

Meanwhile Germany is spiking in cases, not huge spikes but not surprising given they’ve been at least semi open since May. 
 

And of course, their combined populations are less than half that of the USA. 

 

 

Germany has strong borders? Please.

 

And yes, their combined populations are less than half that of the USA. But the USA has about 4.2% of the world's population and 26% of the world's coronavirus cases. The fact that we're doing worse than nearly anyone else at stopping this thing is not due to our population numbers. Nor is it due to our borders being more open that countries like Germany's, which they are not.

 

Oh, and as for Germany's "spiking in cases," Their highs for new cases were back in late March and early April, around 5K - 6K per day. They're now closer to 10% of that. Those "spikes" brought the infection rate up to 50 new infections per 100,000 people. How does that relate to the US rate?

 

There are many contributing factors, but probably the single biggest one was slow and poor reactions right at the beginning, which is the most crucial time in a pandemic.

 

We needed to listen to the scientists and doctors. We didn't. Bad decisions were made, and they were not restricted to one side of the political map.

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14 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

You spelled Florida wrong.

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hey! We’re Batsh*t crazy, but we don’t eat them!

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9 hours ago, The Dean said:

 

 

If you seriously believe that, you need to start paying attention to the CONSENSUS of scientists---not politicians. Some (I use Fauci as the prime example) are not only long time respected experts in the field, but also have access to most every study and opinion. When confronting an issue for which you have no expertise, look to the BEST experts who have access to the best minds and research. You can always find an outlier or two, of course. But why pay attention to them, when there is very good data on outcomes. Places that put mandatory stay at home orders in place and those requiring masks are having much better outcomes than those who do not. And yes, you can always fine an outlier or situation that seems to contradict the consensus. But why focus on the trivial outliers unless you simply are someone who constantly looks for, and believes, information that confirms your personal bias?

 

Ignorance is different than stupidity. But staying purposefully ignorant is pretty damn stupid, IMO.

 

 

Nice.

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12 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

This is the bills fault. They are cursed. They could very well make the super bowl this year and there’s not going to be a season. That’s what they get for trying to be good lol


At the very least it should quiet the “Josh was supposed to sit a year to work on his mechanics/fundamentals”. Seems like there is a chance that he might finally get to do that. 

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Not a good sign of the intestinal fortitude needed to play the most contact-y of sports during a pandemic.  Prepare for the worst.

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12 hours ago, Bills!Win! said:

This is the bills fault. They are cursed. They could very well make the super bowl this year and there’s not going to be a season. That’s what they get for trying to be good lol

Bills would be probably a top 5 team after a canceled season. They are set up very well over the next 2 years. Many teams with high priced QBs will be in trouble cap wise.

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17 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

You spelled Florida wrong.

 

I'm pretty sure he had it right.

 

 

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They might as well just shut the league down until there is a cure, just to be on the safe side...because covid could be around for a while...

 

It would suck, but even if it takes 10 years before they could play again, it would be worth it as long as there was a cure...

 

It’s unfortunate for Josh Allen, but at least we got a few decent years out of him...on to the 2030 draft...anyone know of any current pop warner QBs that are showing signs?

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19 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

 

You both spelled "science deniers" wrong.


speaking of denying science....  why isn’t this the headline about those 23 Clemson players..

 

Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


speaking of denying science....  why isn’t this the headline about those 23 Clemson players..

 

Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

 

 

SHUT IT ALL DOWN!

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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


speaking of denying science....  why isn’t this the headline about those 23 Clemson players..

 

Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

 

 

 

It's better than them being in the hospital, that's for sure.

 

But irrespective of their individual outcomes, now we have 23 more Covid positive people who must be quarantined and are potentially contagious. If there are 23 now, there may be 30 or more, at a later date. None of them are available to practice or play for at least 14 days. The ones with symptoms might have to wait much longer before they are healthy enough to contribute. So to the team it's potentially DEVASTATING. 

 

And asymptomatic can change to very symptomatic in a heartbeat. It's hard to know when someone is truly asymptomatic (and will never be symptomatic) and those who are simply PRE symptomatic. 

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25 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


speaking of denying science....  why isn’t this the headline about those 23 Clemson players..

 

Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

 

 

 

When it comes to how it affects the team/sport, symptoms are irrelevant. They can still spread the disease and, thus, still have to be quarantined and be unavailable to practice or play for two weeks. 

 

If Josh Allen tests positive for COVID the night before the Chiefs game but has no symptoms, guess what? It’s still two weeks of quarantine.

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screw the union.   let adults take responsibility for themselves.  

 

and put people in the stands.   old people (like me) and bad body people stay home.   or go, but everyone know the risk and prepare. 

 

really not that hard to understand.   life goes on. 

 

or not. 

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19 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

screw the union.   let adults take responsibility for themselves.  

 

and put people in the stands.   old people (like me) and bad body people stay home.   or go, but everyone know the risk and prepare. 

 

really not that hard to understand.   life goes on. 

 

or not. 


Well...this is the problem. It's not just THEMSELVES. If player X gets COVID, and maybe doesn't know it because he's asymptomatic, and then goes out to party that night -- a very realistic scenario for invincible-feeling rich 20-somethings -- he can then spread it to a huge number of people.

If it were just "taking responsibility for one's self", it would be a whole different matter. Because of how easily the virus spreads, the reality is that you have responsibility to your community. 

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10 minutes ago, Logic said:


Well...this is the problem. It's not just THEMSELVES. If player X gets COVID, and maybe doesn't know it because he's asymptomatic, and then goes out to party that night -- a very realistic scenario for invincible-feeling rich 20-somethings -- he can then spread it to a huge number of people.

If it were just "taking responsibility for one's self", it would be a whole different matter. Because of how easily the virus spreads, the reality is that you have responsibility to your community. 

 

But what shall we do when we do not have a community to be responsible to anymore?  With the continued approach of shutting things down, we can reach that point soon.

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1 hour ago, The Dean said:

 

It's better than them being in the hospital, that's for sure.

 

But irrespective of their individual outcomes, now we have 23 more Covid positive people who must be quarantined and are potentially contagious. If there are 23 now, there may be 30 or more, at a later date. None of them are available to practice or play for at least 14 days. The ones with symptoms might have to wait much longer before they are healthy enough to contribute. So to the team it's potentially DEVASTATING. 

 

And asymptomatic can change to very symptomatic in a heartbeat. It's hard to know when someone is truly asymptomatic (and will never be symptomatic) and those who are simply PRE symptomatic. 

You're paranoid aren't you?

 

These players will have NOTHING. If it was another virus, you'd shrug your shoulders. Of course they can be contagious but even the WHO has mentioned asymptomatic people rarely are. Still that is the only real concern as their own personal health is probably totally fine. Like, totally. You quarantine them for 14 days and voilà, they're back to football. There's no "sky is falling" here. Better for them it happens now than during the season! That's why the NFL is considering having a large practice squad this year.

 

You realize if they weren't playing football, they would likely not have been tested and thus been as contagious if not more? Stop being so damn scared. The virus is real but not dramatic at all to healthy adults. We must protect the vulnerable and old. And thus, TESTING is the best option. Which they got because they played football!

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1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


speaking of denying science....  why isn’t this the headline about those 23 Clemson players..

 

Most of the total cases have been asymptomatic, and none have required hospitalization,"

 

 

You silly boy...don’t you know that Covid is akin to a zombie apocalypse and the only way to survive is to lock yourself in your basement until the rioting and the approaching socialist utopia has cured us all? 

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1 hour ago, Logic said:

 

When it comes to how it affects the team/sport, symptoms are irrelevant. They can still spread the disease and, thus, still have to be quarantined and be unavailable to practice or play for two weeks. 

 

If Josh Allen tests positive for COVID the night before the Chiefs game but has no symptoms, guess what? It’s still two weeks of quarantine.

Yes. And it would suck. But no more dramatic than that. He'd miss 2-3 weeks and done. NO THE END OF THE WORLD. And because it so happens Josh was playing in the NFL, he would have been aware he has it and needs to quarantine, otherwise he would have been more of a danger to his family and friends.

 

I don't bet but that virus will sure make some people lose or win ha ha.

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6 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

You silly boy...don’t you know that Covid is akin to a zombie apocalypse and the only way to survive is to lock yourself in your basement until the rioting and the approaching socialist utopia has cured us all? 


well if I’m gonna be locked in my basement I’ll need some live sports to watch. 
 

so so body better figure this all out. 

 

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