TroutDog Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I thought this was interesting. He covers everything from mentoring Marcellus Wiley to his relationship with Jim (well documented) to being bullied as a kid to who is the best DE of all time. One thing that really piqued my interest was when he discussed becoming a student of the game. I suspect that was driven by Levy and while McD is not a teacher in the same vein that Marv was, he is, nonetheless, a teacher. It’s an interesting juxtaposition. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I wish they was a way to instill the drive that Bruce had into the new generation some just don't see it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Bring back the RED helmets! 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I like how he bonded with Jim's mother. I have a couple of friends like that - every time we visited her she would ask how my "brothers" were doing. Not my actual brothers but R. Rich and a buddy of mine I work with and lived with me for a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I feel like he never gets mentioned with the all time best in the league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Bad things man... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 28 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Bring back the RED helmets! Respect your love of the, but I LOVE the classics! ? 22 minutes ago, Limeaid said: I like how he bonded with Jim's mother. I have a couple of friends like that - every time we visited her she would ask how my "brothers" were doing. Not my actual brothers but R. Rich and a buddy of mine I work with and lived with me for a while. Appreciate it...how about the discussion of how he became a student of the game and if it connects to now? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 In my opinion, (obviously, since I posted it) it’s worth watching so we can understand the type of coach we have now and how it connects with Marv...I truly think there’s a connection and it will lead to good things! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mr. K said: I feel like he never gets mentioned with the all time best in the league THIS. It's because he was prior to the NFL becoming what it is, today. True football fans of a certain age, and Bills fans of a certain age, all know it, but the casual fan now gets hit in the face 24/7 with information. It's Deacon, him, and Reggie, in that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. K said: I feel like he never gets mentioned with the all time best in the league Ok, did you watch the video? I agree with you but it’s important that it’s discussed here. ? He is, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I would pick Bruce Smith over any other defensive player. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: I would pick Bruce Smith over any other defensive player. Overall I agree but I do find myself vacillating at times between him and LT. Edited May 9, 2020 by TroutDog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 16 hours ago, scuba guy said: I wish they was a way to instill the drive that Bruce had into the new generation some just don't see it Bruce was definitely one of a kind there is a lot that the new generation could learn if they would take some time to get their faces out of the "Smart Phones" & pay more attention to what's around them but the days of young people working hard in any physical way like Bruce and others did from a different era i believe is long gone !! There are some youngsters coming up that have that in them but the numbers are dwindling as time goes by ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Remember that Bruce came in the league soft and he worked on what to do on off-season with Edward Abramoski. He (Abramoski) told me at tailgate that Bruce was a "sponge" during his first off-season and on phone with him frequently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Remember that Bruce came in the league soft and he worked on what to do on off-season with Edward Abramoski. He (Abramoski) told me at tailgate that Bruce was a "sponge" during his first off-season and on phone with him frequently. If I recall correctly, he was at or over 300 when drafted and then came back around 285 for his second year. Completely changed his body. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mr. K said: I feel like he never gets mentioned with the all time best in the league Imagine if he had been say, a Dallas Cowboy, or New York Giant... Edited May 9, 2020 by 32ABBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, T master said: Bruce was definitely one of a kind there is a lot that the new generation could learn if they would take some time to get their faces out of the "Smart Phones" & pay more attention to what's around them but the days of young people working hard in any physical way like Bruce and others did from a different era i believe is long gone !! There are some youngsters coming up that have that in them but the numbers are dwindling as time goes by ... Do you have the actual numbers? Is this a stat that PFF keeps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, 32ABBA said: Imagine if he had been say, a Dallas Cowboy, or New York Giant... He discussed that in the video as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Seasons1992 said: THIS. It's because he was prior to the NFL becoming what it is, today. True football fans of a certain age, and Bills fans of a certain age, all know it, but the casual fan now gets hit in the face 24/7 with information. It's Deacon, him, and Reggie, in that order. Thats what I was thinking is the case. I guess eventually the generational talent we're watching now will be surpassed as well. Still 200 sacks is pretty impressive (of course they didnt always keep that stat). 17 hours ago, TroutDog said: Ok, did you watch the video? I agree with you but it’s important that it’s discussed here. ? He is, by the way. Yeah I watched and enjoyed it. Could I be a little jaded by the red white and blue? Maybe. But his production, accolades, and longevity is undeniable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 OP - Thanks for posting. I hear just this thoughtful, humble soul who appreciates where he's been. For someone who was such a terror on the field, he is equal part gentle giant. I get a kick listening to him. What an all-time great 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 18 hours ago, TroutDog said: In my opinion, (obviously, since I posted it) it’s worth watching so we can understand the type of coach we have now and how it connects with Marv...I truly think there’s a connection and it will lead to good things! I hope for better with McD. Not necessarily that we WIN a Super Bowl -I hope for that every year, but in teaching and instilling the team 1st approach. I was skeptical of Levy right up til he lambasted the press in ‘90. But, imo, he was more a babysitter than football coach. This was clearly evident in nearly every game we lost during his era. Out-coached. We won with better talent, not with better coaching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted May 9, 2020 Author Share Posted May 9, 2020 54 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: I hope for better with McD. Not necessarily that we WIN a Super Bowl -I hope for that every year, but in teaching and instilling the team 1st approach. I was skeptical of Levy right up til he lambasted the press in ‘90. But, imo, he was more a babysitter than football coach. This was clearly evident in nearly every game we lost during his era. Out-coached. We won with better talent, not with better coaching. Agreed but he did get many on the team to be better football players as Bruce discussed. I believe McD can do that AND is a good coach. He still has things to learn, obviously, but also think he is intent on doing so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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