"A mask for every American" Dhvani.com

[Hapless Bills Fan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1k3nn4YMrc#action=share

 

Dhvani.com is providing a mask for every American who requests it. 

All masks are free and funded by donations

 

 

 

 

[The Dean]

Thanks Hap. Mask ordered and donation given. 

[Just Jack]

Ordered mine a few days ago

[Marv's Neighbor]

Mask??  We don't need no freakin mask!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Mask??  We don't need no freakin mask!

 

Mouse in your pocket or royalty?

 

Stay home then

[Marv's Neighbor]

7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Mouse in your pocket or royalty?

 

Stay home then

Actually it's much more fun NOT staying home!

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Actually it's much more fun NOT staying home!

Then don’t be a choad - mask up!

 

[Marv's Neighbor]

2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Then don’t be a choad - mask up!

 

This is NOT affecting every part of the country in the same way.  One policy makes no sense for the entire country. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

This is NOT affecting every part of the country in the same way.  One policy makes no sense for the entire country. 

 

I understand your point of view.  Many of my relatives live in areas that are not (currently) very affected in N. or S. MO, and that is how they feel.
 

Given this population-based map of covid-19 cases in the US over the last 4 weeks, which parts of the country do you feel should be exempt as we open back up and travel resumes?

Keep in mind light yellow areas (where there are cases) can easily become dark blue areas in a few weeks without some kind of mitigation measures, due to the magic of exponential growth.  Due to scarce testing and tracing, grey areas adjacent to areas with cases may be a "false negative"

At the start of the epidemic, we've been chasing where the virus is, by which time it's moved on. 

And in many of the current "grey" areas, hospitals are scarce (like the areas where my relatives live).  They explicitly depend upon airlifting serious medical cases to the nearest major medical center.  That doesn't work if the nearest major medical center is bombed.

[Marv's Neighbor]

99.2% of these fatalities had preexisting conditions.  Many of the Nursing Home deaths already had DNR orders.  The magic of exponential growth is not happening because the "models" are so flawed.

 

Never saw Gov Cuomo wearing a mask.  Testing is becoming more available.  "Tracing" is never going to be a reality because there's no reliable way to manage it.  It totally relies on the honesty of people and their memory of who/where/what etc. 

 

We are all entitled to our individual opinions/views but we likewise have rights and civil liberties that must be respected.

[PastaJoe]

27 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

99.2% of these fatalities had preexisting conditions.  Many of the Nursing Home deaths already had DNR orders.  The magic of exponential growth is not happening because the "models" are so flawed.

 

Never saw Gov Cuomo wearing a mask.  Testing is becoming more available.  "Tracing" is never going to be a reality because there's no reliable way to manage it.  It totally relies on the honesty of people and their memory of who/where/what etc. 

 

We are all entitled to our individual opinions/views but we likewise have rights and civil liberties that must be respected.

Like the Constitutional right to life? Your not wearing a mask threatens those near you in public. We wear a mask to protect you. Please have the same consideration.

[Just Jack]

56 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

 "Tracing" is never going to be a reality because there's no reliable way to manage it.  It totally relies on the honesty of people and their memory of who/where/what etc. 

 

Have you seen how Australia is doing tracing with their app?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/28/covid-safe-app-how-to-download-australian-government-covidsafe-tracing-download-install-ios-app-store-iphone-phone-number-google-play-android-australia-coronavirus-tracking

 

[Marv's Neighbor]

2 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

Have you seen how Australia is doing tracing with their app?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/apr/28/covid-safe-app-how-to-download-australian-government-covidsafe-tracing-download-install-ios-app-store-iphone-phone-number-google-play-android-australia-coronavirus-tracking

 

What if you're AP-LESS? 

3 hours ago, PastaJoe said:

Like the Constitutional right to life? Your not wearing a mask threatens those near you in public. We wear a mask to protect you. Please have the same consideration.

That's your choice, please respect mine.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...if you have an immediate need and are located in WNY, the Rochester folks are making/selling them.......and very reasonable.....I can post the entire article if a subscription is necessary to see the vendors........

 

Where to buy face masks made by Rochester artists and tailors

 

Mary Chao, Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Published 4:47 a.m. ET April 28, 2020 | Updated 2:13 p.m. ET April 28, 2020

 

With family members who are essential workers at area hospitals, Fatima Bayram understands the need for protective gear. When the family's tailor shop, Thimble Tailor, had to close as a nonessential business, she and her brother Tufan decided to use their family's tailoring skills to make face masks. Together, they donated 500 masks to Rochester General Hospital and another 500 to University of Rochester Medical Center.

 

They also began selling them through phone orders, with appointments for touchless pickups.

 

The demand is even higher now as Gov. Andrew Cuomo issued an executive order that all people wear face coverings while in public as the state combats the coronavirus pandemic. 

 

Thimble Tailor is among the Rochester-area tailors and artists who are making face masks for sale. Here are some places to find Rochester-made face coverings.

 

https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2020/04/28/where-to-buy-face-masks-in-rochester-ny-during-coronavirus-outbreak/3032723001/

 

 

Edited April 29, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[PastaJoe]

2 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

What if you're AP-LESS? 

That's your choice, please respect mine.

I can’t respect someone who won’t take a simple step to protect others. My mother is 89 and my sister has cancer. You’re a threat to them and others with compromised immune systems. Please do the right thing.

[Marv's Neighbor]

1 hour ago, PastaJoe said:

I can’t respect someone who won’t take a simple step to protect others. My mother is 89 and my sister has cancer. You’re a threat to them and others with compromised immune systems. Please do the right thing.

Where do the live?  I'm In in Virginia and doubt that I threaten them in ANY way!  

[PastaJoe]

7 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

Where do the live?  I'm In in Virginia and doubt that I threaten them in ANY way!  

They’re in Buffalo, but I’m going to go out on a limb and guess there are old people and those with cancer in Virginia too.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

8 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

99.2% of these fatalities had preexisting conditions.  Many of the Nursing Home deaths already had DNR orders.  The magic of exponential growth is not happening because the "models" are so flawed.

 

Never saw Gov Cuomo wearing a mask.  Testing is becoming more available.  "Tracing" is never going to be a reality because there's no reliable way to manage it.  It totally relies on the honesty of people and their memory of who/where/what etc. 

 

We are all entitled to our individual opinions/views but we likewise have rights and civil liberties that must be respected.

 

Your civil liberties need to respect other people.  If you wish to insist that you be allowed to have untrammeled rights and civil liberties that infringe upon other people's rights and civil liberties - such as the right to health and life - why should that be respected? 

 

About those preexisting conditions.   In the recent JAMA study of a fraction of the hospitalized patients in one hospital system, in one city, these were the pre-existing conditions found in covid-19 patients:

-Hypertension.  45% of American adults have hypertension (source for all these: relevant CDC Statistical Summary 2020)
-Obesity.  42.4% of American adults are obese

-Diabetes >10% of American adults have diabetes

 

You seem to find it somehow comforting (or to diminish significance) that a high percentage of people who die from covid-19 may have a pre-existing condition that in fact affects 40-46% of all adult Americans.  Am I misunderstanding you? 

If it were true that 99.2% of people who die from covid-19 have a pre-existing condition (and I'd like your source, please) and it is likely one that affects almost half the people in the country, how does that make their deaths less significant, or justify you not taking a simple step to protect them by covering your handsome and distinguished face with a mask out in public?

 

About those DNR orders.  I don't think they mean what you think they mean.  Having a DNR order does not mean you are on "death's doorstep" with no life expectancy to speak of.  I have an 87 year old mother with a DNR order due to congestive heart failure.  Before the lockdown, she was driving herself, cooking for herself, shopping for herself, writing voluminous letters to lawmakers, and could have a life expectancy of 5-7 years.  She matters to people.  Her death counts, OK? 

 

If you believe you are justified to take away my mother's Rights to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of happiness and shorten her life expectancy just because she has a DNR, or you're justified to take away the rights of many people here to same just because they have high blood pressure (along with 46% of adult Americans), I don't quite know what to say.

 

5 hours ago, Marv's Neighbor said:

That's your choice, please respect mine.

 

I don't want to sound mean, but why should I respect a choice that interferes with the fundamental rights of other people to live? 

 

If you're a hermit living in northern Maine, or eastern Montana, or SE Utah, then sure - you probably don't affect anyone else.  Dowhatchalike.   Likewise on your own property.

But if you want the social benefits of living in a part of the country with supermarkets and drugstores and gyms and jobs and so forth, why should you be exempt from respecting other people's rights?   Especially for something so easy and trivial as wearing a freakin' mask over your schnoz when you go into an enclosed space or use a space like a park that is frequented by other people.

 

Sheesh.

PS on that exponential growth thing, this is a classic exponential growth curve.  It happens to be the confirmed Covid-19 cases in the US of A.

It's not as steep or as high as it could have been if we didn't have so much shutdown, but it's not as flat as it could be if people would just Do the Right Thing, either.  So let's not hear this shallow-as-an-August-stream critique that "exponential growth is not happening because the "models" are so flawed", OK?  This is US.  This is >$1M Americans.  And it's still exponential.  I spent too damn much of my life fitting exponential curves not to recognize one when I see it.

[Niagara Bill]

Citizens may have the right to carry a gun or pocess a gun. They do not have the right to point the gun at me without reason, nor to they have the right to pull the trigger whether the gun is loaded with a live round or blank.

Anyone who ventures out into public with out a mask is potentially pointing a gun at fellow citizens, whether they are infected or not. 

These same people would resist being tested and being forced to put a blue dot on their forehead to prove they are safe,  that would be a threat to their flippin liberty. 

Wear a mask or be charged with a crime....period. IMHO.

 

This is a temporary measure and only the most disrespectful of people would refuse. 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 4/28/2020 at 2:43 PM, Marv's Neighbor said:

That's your choice, please respect mine.

 

Again - why should I respect a choice of yours that I can reasonably view as a threat to my well-being or my mother's life, not to mention potentially to our ability to open up and function as a society?  If you want to be part of that society - shop in stores, go to work, etc - why shouldn't you be asked to make a change that protects societal function and health of other individuals such as wearing a mask in public?  How does that differ from accepting other social standards, like wearing clothing in public or not relieving yourself in the potted plants outside the bar?
 

I don't think "but that politician, who will always get first-class front of the line health care for himself and his family and first priority for covid-19 testing, doesn't do it" is a very valid argument for you to not protect the health of the nursing home aide you encounter in the grocery store, who may work at a VA nursing home and unwittingly infect a whole wing of patients if her for-profit workplace isn't providing the workers with adequate PPE.

 

1 hour ago, Niagara Bill said:

Citizens may have the right to carry a gun or pocess a gun. They do not have the right to point the gun at me without reason, nor to they have the right to pull the trigger whether the gun is loaded with a live round or blank.

Anyone who ventures out into public with out a mask is potentially pointing a gun at fellow citizens, whether they are infected or not. 

These same people would resist being tested and being forced to put a blue dot on their forehead to prove they are safe,  that would be a threat to their flippin liberty. 

Wear a mask or be charged with a crime....period. IMHO.

 

This is a temporary measure and only the most disrespectful of people would refuse. 

 

I think the gun thing is a bit of an extreme as an analogy. 

And I hate wearing a mask while I'm out walking the dog.  It's already hot and bothersome here in St Louis.  It keeps me from smelling the roses (literally!  handmade, but good mask with shop towel filters).  But I do it, because I view it as a civic duty to protect my fellow citizens should I unknowingly be infected, and as my small individual contribution towards being able to reopen our country safely ASAP.

 

I personally would strenuously resist being forced to put a blue dot on my forehead to "prove" I am safe, because scientifically, there's no such proof at present - applied to a group, antibody tests are useful in showing what the overall infection rate is in a community.  On an individual basis, an antibody test showing anti-covid-19 antibodies could occur while I still have an active viral infection.  It could also result from a lab error, or a false positive.  So it really doesn't "prove" much, objectively.

[meazza]

On 4/28/2020 at 7:37 PM, Marv's Neighbor said:

Where do the live?  I'm In in Virginia and doubt that I threaten them in ANY way!  

This is a virus that takes a community effort to beat.   I’m not for locking down anyone but if someone doesn’t see the benefit of wearing a mask as to reduce the spread, I don’t understand why.

[Niagara Bill]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Again - why should I respect a choice of yours that I can reasonably view as a threat to my well-being or my mother's life, not to mention potentially to our ability to open up and function as a society?  If you want to be part of that society - shop in stores, go to work, etc - why shouldn't you be asked to make a change that protects societal function and health of other individuals such as wearing a mask in public?  How does that differ from accepting other social standards, like wearing clothing in public or not relieving yourself in the potted plants outside the bar?
 

I don't think "but that politician, who will always get first-class front of the line health care for himself and his family and first priority for covid-19 testing, doesn't do it" is a very valid argument for you to not protect the health of the nursing home aide you encounter in the grocery store, who may work at a VA nursing home and unwittingly infect a whole wing of patients if her for-profit workplace isn't providing the workers with adequate PPE.

 

 

I think the gun thing is a bit of an extreme as an analogy. 

And I hate wearing a mask while I'm out walking the dog.  It's already hot and bothersome here in St Louis.  It keeps me from smelling the roses (literally!  handmade, but good mask with shop towel filters).  But I do it, because I view it as a civic duty to protect my fellow citizens should I unknowingly be infected, and as my small individual contribution towards being able to reopen our country safely ASAP.

 

I personally would strenuously resist being forced to put a blue dot on my forehead to "prove" I am safe, because scientifically, there's no such proof at present - applied to a group, antibody tests are useful in showing what the overall infection rate is in a community.  On an individual basis, an antibody test showing anti-covid-19 antibodies could occur while I still have an active viral infection.  It could also result from a lab error, or a false positive.  So it really doesn't "prove" much, objectively.

I get the blue dot ...it was a little extreme to prove a point, but I can, or may die from either the virus or the gun. In both cases I would not have a choice, but the citizen who refuses to control the gun or wear the mask ( in the presence of others not including a dog) can expell the virus on me, or a blank and they do not know, BUT they have control of the situation so therefore they are guilty as sure as they would be knowing they had the virus and spit in your face. This has already been proven in the aids scenario.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

54 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

I get the blue dot ...it was a little extreme to prove a point, but I can, or may die from either the virus or the gun. In both cases I would not have a choice, but the citizen who refuses to control the gun or wear the mask ( in the presence of others not including a dog) can expell the virus on me, or a blank and they do not know, BUT they have control of the situation so therefore they are guilty as sure as they would be knowing they had the virus and spit in your face. This has already been proven in the aids scenario.

 

I appreciate the spirit, but truly I think it's not as helpful of an analogy as you might believe.  The consequences of pointing a loaded gun at someone and pulling the trigger are clear-cut and undeniable.

 

The consequences of not wearing a mask are, at present, not so clear ..... how many people are asymptomatically infected? do they have the same viral load and are they as infectious as symptomatic people?  unknown....but there is increasing evidence that asymptomatic transmission plays a role in propagating the covid-19 infection, which is why the CDC went from "just stay home if you're ill, and wash your hands" to "wear a mask or covering over your face in public" as more was learned about transmission.

 

I find it difficult to understand why people wouldn't be willing to reduce the chance that they may unknowingly be infected and pass the infection to others, some of whom may be more susceptible and become more seriously ill or who may be in contact with many vulnerable people (a nursing home aide, shopping in the same grocery store as you, say).  I know a lot of people with a lot of different political and religious viewpoints and most of them, including those who think very differently than I on politics, are fundamentally IME very decent caring people - people who will donate time and money to help food pantries, say.

 

I'm betting the same of people I read here "I'm not wearing a mask, respect my choice."  I bet they're people who might hear of a family suffering cancer and pull out their wallet to help fund transportation to treatment if the family can't afford it.  Or hear of a breadwinner for 6 who had to quarantine without pay 2 weeks and gladly buy them some groceries. 

It just puzzles me that not wearing a mask seems such an issue for people like that.  Whatever is proven down the road, it seems like such a relatively low-cost, low-trouble minimal personal contribution to help society get back close to normal, ASAP.  If me (or you) wearing a mask can help break even one or two transmission chains that might wind up with dozens of sick elders, why wouldn't one choose to do that? 
 

Especially - returning to the subject of this thread - when there is a company willing to send any American a mask, free of charge, and trust to donations to keep it going.
https://www.dhvani.com/pages/freemasks

[meazza]

30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I appreciate the spirit, but truly I think it's not as helpful of an analogy as you might believe.  The consequences of pointing a loaded gun at someone and pulling the trigger are clear-cut and undeniable.

 

The consequences of not wearing a mask are, at present, not so clear ..... how many people are asymptomatically infected? do they have the same viral load and are they as infectious as symptomatic people?  unknown....but there is increasing evidence that asymptomatic transmission plays a role in propagating the covid-19 infection, which is why the CDC went from "just stay home if you're ill, and wash your hands" to "wear a mask or covering over your face in public" as more was learned about transmission.

 

I find it difficult to understand why people wouldn't be willing to reduce the chance that they may unknowingly be infected and pass the infection to others, some of whom may be more susceptible and become more seriously ill or who may be in contact with many vulnerable people (a nursing home aide, shopping in the same grocery store as you, say).  I know a lot of people with a lot of different political and religious viewpoints and most of them, including those who think very differently than I on politics, are fundamentally IME very decent caring people - people who will donate time and money to help food pantries, say.

 

I'm betting the same of people I read here "I'm not wearing a mask, respect my choice" - I bet they're people who might hear of a family suffering cancer and pull out their wallet to help fund transportation to treatment if the family can't afford it.  Or hear of a breadwinner for 6 who had to quarantine without pay 2 weeks and gladly buy them some groceries.

It just puzzles me that not wearing a mask seems such an issue for people.  Whatever is proven down the road, it just seems like such a relatively low-cost, low-trouble minimal personal contribution to help society get back close to normal, ASAP.  If me (or you) wearing a mask can help break even one or two transmission chains that might wind up with dozens of sick elders, why wouldn't one choose to do that? 
 

Especially - returning to the subject of this thread - when there is a company willing to send any American a mask, free of charge.
https://www.dhvani.com/pages/freemasks

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.  

 

 

[UConn James]

A few days ago, I filled out the fields on the OP site and then it said that I would need to respond to an email in order to finish the process. I never got the email, even checked in the junk folder. Is this a case of their system being overwhelmed and they will send one anyway, or do I fill it out again?

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...not to by any means diminishing the need/vigilance to wear a mask, but there is no mention of other passengers, so one can only assume she was driving alone.....I'm a layperson and NOT a scientist so I cannot judge her discretion......thankfully she survived the crash.....

NJ police say 'excessive wearing' of coronavirus mask contributed to driver passing out, crashing car

By Robert Gearty | Fox News

 

A New Jersey woman who crashed her car into a power pole may have passed out after wearing an N95 coronavirus mask behind the wheel for several hours, police said.

The woman was taken to a local hospital with a complaint of pain after Thursday’s accident on a two-lane road, the Lincoln Park Police Department said.

 

“The crash is believed to have resulted from the driver wearing an N95 mask for several hours and subsequently passing out behind the wheel due to insufficient oxygen intake/excessive carbon dioxide intake,” the department said on Facebook Friday.

 

The department offered further explanation in a subsequent post, noting the "overwhelming response" to its original statement.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nj-police-say-excessive-wearing-of-n95-coronavirus-mask-contributed-to-woman-passing-out-crashing-car

 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, UConn James said:

A few days ago, I filled out the fields on the OP site and then it said that I would need to respond to an email in order to finish the process. I never got the email, even checked in the junk folder. Is this a case of their system being overwhelmed and they will send one anyway, or do I fill it out again?

 

No advice, sorry, but I find it easy to believe they're overwhelmed.  I would try filling it out again and maybe using a different email address.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

...not to by any means diminishing the need/vigilance to wear a mask, but there is no mention of other passengers, so one can only assume she was driving alone.....I'm a layperson and NOT a scientist so I cannot judge her discretion......thankfully she survived the crash.....

NJ police say 'excessive wearing' of coronavirus mask contributed to driver passing out, crashing car

By Robert Gearty | Fox News

 

A New Jersey woman who crashed her car into a power pole may have passed out after wearing an N95 coronavirus mask behind the wheel for several hours, police said.

The woman was taken to a local hospital with a complaint of pain after Thursday’s accident on a two-lane road, the Lincoln Park Police Department said.

 

“The crash is believed to have resulted from the driver wearing an N95 mask for several hours and subsequently passing out behind the wheel due to insufficient oxygen intake/excessive carbon dioxide intake,” the department said on Facebook Friday.

 

The department offered further explanation in a subsequent post, noting the "overwhelming response" to its original statement.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/nj-police-say-excessive-wearing-of-n95-coronavirus-mask-contributed-to-woman-passing-out-crashing-car

 

 

You and I have discussed this and while I couldn't rule it out....I'm pretty dubious.  They say in the article "nothing was uncovered at the accident scene that would suggest that the driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol" which I take as meaning she didn't have a six-pack of empties tossed behind the seat, a bottle of Fireball in the glove compartment, or evidence of drug use.... but did they perform a blood test for drugs or alcohol?  They don't say....

 

My expectation would be that someone above the waterline who is experiencing CO2 buildup would have a normal impulse and remove the mask or pull it to one side.

Per this source, symptoms of CO2 poisoning would include:

Nausea, vomiting, dizziness, headache, rapid breathing and heart rate, and flushing can occur with carbon dioxide poisoning

Before:
Severe cases of carbon dioxide toxicity progress to confusion, convulsions, and loss of consciousness.
 

So per the Lincoln Park PD theory to be correct, someone wearing a mask developed CO2 poisoning without experiencing rapid breathing and heartrate, the experience of feeling very short of breath, nausea, dizziness, or headache and deciding to pull aside the mask or pull over and stop the car and call for help, they just lost consciousness and hit something.  This is my "I guess it could happen, but I'm skeptical" face.

That said, I personally wouldn't wear an N95 mask inside my own car when I am driving alone any more than I'd wear one inside my own house.  Additional exposure to sweat, breath moisture, etc won't help its longievity.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You and I have discussed this and while I couldn't rule it out....I'm pretty dubious.  They say in the article "nothing was uncovered at the accident scene that would suggest that the driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol" which I take as meaning she didn't have a six-pack of empties tossed behind the seat, a bottle of Fireball in the glove compartment, or evidence of drug use.... but did they perform a blood test for drugs or alcohol?  They don't say....

 

My expectation would be that someone above the waterline who is experiencing CO2 buildup would have a normal impulse and remove the mask or pull it to one side.

Per this source, symptoms of CO2 poisoning would include:

Nausea, vomiting, dizziness, headache, rapid breathing and heart rate, and flushing can occur with carbon dioxide poisoning

Before:
Severe cases of carbon dioxide toxicity progress to confusion, convulsions, and loss of consciousness.
 

So per the Lincoln Park PD theory to be correct, someone wearing a mask developed CO2 poisoning without experiencing rapid breathing and heartrate, the experience of feeling very short of breath, nausea, dizziness, or headache and deciding to pull aside the mask or pull over and stop the car and call for help, they just lost consciousness and hit something.  This is my "I guess it could happen, but I'm skeptical" face.

That said, I personally wouldn't wear an N95 mask inside my own car when I am driving alone any more than I'd wear one inside my own house.  Additional exposure to sweat, breath moisture, etc won't help its longievity.

 

...I am in full compliance as far as wearing a mask in public (a painter's mask).....but it does get uncomfortable as far as feeling sweatiness under it, yet bearable in deference to others, but I do remove it upon returning to my car....yet I do notice many single occupancy vehicles wearing the paper style blue masks......perhaps they think if they were to sneeze or cough out dropletts that eventual passengers would be exposed.....I see walkers daily on my street wearing a mask while walking alone....if that makes them feel safer, so be it and I would NEVER pre-judge or criticize their choices as I have NO basis.....these are uncharted times perhaps going back to circa 1917 that we have never seen.....

[BillsFan4]

3 hours ago, UConn James said:

A few days ago, I filled out the fields on the OP site and then it said that I would need to respond to an email in order to finish the process. I never got the email, even checked in the junk folder. Is this a case of their system being overwhelmed and they will send one anyway, or do I fill it out again?

Fill it out again. You need to respond to the email for your mask request to be finalized. If you don’t respond to the email I don’t think it sends in your mask request. 

 

It did take about 1/2 a day for me to get the email. So if you don’t get it by tomorrow I’d try again. 

[The Dean]

Has anyone received a mask from them yet? I'm just curious to know: how long did it take, and what what did you think  of the mask itself?  

 

Also, since I didn't see it mentioned (which means little as I'm doing a lot of skimming these days) I think you should be careful HOW you take your mask on an off. I'm someone who never wears a mask in my house, car, on a walk in an open area. I try to always wear one when I'll be interacting with other people. I was taught to handle the mask by the strings if necessary---but basically, never touching the outside of the front of the mask. Then when you put it back on, you are using fingers (even if gloved) that could be infected,

 

As always on this stuff, I defer to Hapless or any of the doctors/medical scientists on the forum. 

[meazza]

4 minutes ago, The Dean said:

Has anyone received a mask from them yet? I'm just curious to know: how long did it take, and what what did you think  of the mask itself?  

 

Also, since I didn't see it mentioned (which means little as I'm doing a lot of skimming these days) I think you should be careful HOW you take your mask on an off. I'm someone who never wears a mask in my house, car, on a walk in an open area. I try to always wear one when I'll be interacting with other people. I was taught to handle the mask by the strings if necessary---but basically, never touching the outside of the front of the mask. Then when you put it back on, you are using fingers (even if gloved) that could be infected,

 

As always on this stuff, I defer to Hapless or any of the doctors/medical scientists on the forum. 

 

 

You should probably purell your hands when touching the mask.  Even if you end up touching your mask with your contaminated hands by accident, you won't be spreading the virus through your breath.

 

My mom is making masks from old clothes.  

[The Dean]

19 hours ago, meazza said:

 

 

You should probably purell your hands when touching the mask.  Even if you end up touching your mask with your contaminated hands by accident, you won't be spreading the virus through your breath.

 

My mom is making masks from old clothes.  

 

 

Good idea, but I'm officially out of sanitizer (unless I can find the bottle's I know I have somewhere).  I do keep hand cleanser/water/paper towels in my car, though,

[Hapless Bills Fan]

On 4/30/2020 at 8:42 PM, The Dean said:

Has anyone received a mask from them yet? I'm just curious to know: how long did it take, and what what did you think  of the mask itself?  

 

Also, since I didn't see it mentioned (which means little as I'm doing a lot of skimming these days) I think you should be careful HOW you take your mask on an off. I'm someone who never wears a mask in my house, car, on a walk in an open area. I try to always wear one when I'll be interacting with other people. I was taught to handle the mask by the strings if necessary---but basically, never touching the outside of the front of the mask. Then when you put it back on, you are using fingers (even if gloved) that could be infected,

 

As always on this stuff, I defer to Hapless or any of the doctors/medical scientists on the forum. 

 

You're 100% on the right track that you need to be mindful of the outside of the mask, as it should be assumed to be contaminated, and also of protecting the (clean) inside of the mask.  Handling only by the ear loops or strings is fine with a medical procedure mask or a cloth mask with ear loops.  (BUT, if the mask has a nose wire, you may need to adjust the nose wire to get a good seal.  Go ahead and do so, then wash your hands or sanitize them.)

 

That said, for any mask that makes a seal (a dust mask, an N95 mask, a vapor mask) I find it very difficult to put on so it seals correctly without handling the outside of the mask.  What I do is just accept that.  I put my right hand on the outside of the mask, with the elastics behind my hand. 

I put it into position on my face and hold it there.  Then I use my other hand to bring the top elastic gently over the top of my head above my ears, and the lower elastic gently over the top of my head to below my ears.  I adjust the nose clip and ensure I have a good seal (it should not be fogging your glasses, or you don't have a seal).  After donning, I assume my hands are contaminated and scrub or sanitize them.

To remove, I reverse the process then slide the mask carefully into a paper-towel lined 4 or 6 cup round plastic storage container, being careful to not touch the inside of the mask.  then I assume my hands are super-contaminated and scrub them twice.  Cover the mask loosely with the clean lid and there it sits until I need it again.  The storage container can be labeled with the name of each household member, and also marked with date of last use.

When re-using, lift a corner of the paper towel and slide right hand under the mask, between the mask and the elastic bands.

 

[Just Jack]

On 4/30/2020 at 9:42 PM, The Dean said:

Has anyone received a mask from them yet? I'm just curious to know: how long did it take, and what what did you think  of the mask itself?  

 

I have not, and I submitted my request on April 21st. 

[Special K]

5 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

I have not, and I submitted my request on April 21st. 

 

I haven't, but its only been about a week since I ordered.

 

On a side note, I ordered masks on Amazon that were supposed to arrive on April 9th, and I finally got them today.

 

[BillsFan4]

2 hours ago, Special K said:

 

I haven't, but its only been about a week since I ordered.

 

On a side note, I ordered masks on Amazon that were supposed to arrive on April 9th, and I finally got them today.

 

Same here. Ordered my mask from Dhvani about a week ago. 

 

They said that they prioritize shipments for healthcare + frontline workers first,average Americans 2nd. So I expect it’ll take a few weeks at least. It’s free though, I’ll be pretty happy as long as it eventually comes. 

 

 

My amazon masks came much quicker than yours though. I ordered a 4 pack of KN95 masks last Monday afternoon and received them 4 days later. Sounds like I lucked out with the seller I picked. I see lots of people on amazon saying the same thing as you.

[Just Jack]

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

They said that they prioritize shipments for healthcare + frontline workers first,average Americans 2nd. So I expect it’ll take a few weeks at least. It’s free though, I’ll be pretty happy as long as it eventually comes. 

 

I am in the healthcare industry (I’m essential and have the letter to prove it) so that’s what I selected when I placed my order.  

[Mike in Horseheads]

9 hours ago, Special K said:

 

I haven't, but its only been about a week since I ordered.

 

On a side note, I ordered masks on Amazon that were supposed to arrive on April 9th, and I finally got them today.

 

I had masks from Amazon for work ordered and got a email that "shipment was lost".  We have had decent support from Chemung County and just got lucky on some other internet sites.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

23 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

I am in the healthcare industry (I’m essential and have the letter to prove it) so that’s what I selected when I placed my order.  

 

Keep us posted, very curious to know.  I have NOT ordered a mask myself as we are decently supplied with cloth masks and I am not entitled to a good mask.

 

Our local Menard's (big box home improvement & hardware store) instituted a new policy today: you must wear a mask to enter the store.

If you didn't have a mask, you could purchase one from them for $1.

 

Our neighbor reported there were people going ballistic, INSISTING on their right to enter a privately-owned business without complying with the requirements said business established - and was making possible for them to comply at a nominal cost.