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The Big Gamble: Hydroxychloroquine


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2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

Fake news.  I care about COVID casualties.  Unlike someone else, who believes simply that “it is what it is.”

 

Sure.  That's why you were so quick to jump on the disinformation campaign against HCQ. 

 

"It's dangerous!" No, not when it is used properly. 

 

"Trump owns stock in it!"  No, he doesn't anymore. 

 

"Look at the studies!"  That were poorly done and one which had to be retracted from being published in a once-respect journal.

 

"Remdesivir works!"  Yeah, that's why my Gilead stock is dropping.

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55 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Sure.  That's why you were so quick to jump on the disinformation campaign against HCQ. 

 

"It's dangerous!" No, not when it is used properly. 

 

"Trump owns stock in it!"  No, he doesn't anymore. 

 

"Look at the studies!"  That were poorly done and one which had to be retracted from being published in a once-respect journal.

 

"Remdesivir works!"  Yeah, that's why my Gilead stock is dropping.

 

It's amazing that the solution to the pandemic has been under our noses the whole time and we haven't figured it out.  If only the scientific community would have listened to the stable genius and internet rando anesthesiologist it all would have been different.  It didn't have to be this way!

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

If you care so much about Covid victims then how could you be so cavalier about babies being pulled apart and dismembered right before they are to be born?

 

Who said that I am?  All I have done is point out the reality that you choose to ignore.  A fetus is not a person, or a child, or a baby.  

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8 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

It's amazing that the solution to the pandemic has been under our noses the whole time and we haven't figured it out.  If only the scientific community would have listened to the stable genius and internet rando anesthesiologist it all would have been different.  It didn't have to be this way!

 

LOL!  Like I was saying...

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49 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

It's amazing that the solution to the pandemic has been under our noses the whole time and we haven't figured it out.  If only the scientific community would have listened to the stable genius and internet rando anesthesiologist it all would have been different.  It didn't have to be this way!

 

Who said that I am?  All I have done is point out the reality that you choose to ignore.  A fetus is not a person, or a child, or a baby.  

In NYS. Are there any states that consider what you call a fetus a human being and it is illegal to end their life before exiting the womb? 

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4 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Fake news.  I care about COVID casualties.  Unlike someone else, who believes simply that “it is what it is.”

I believe you live in the state-NY- where your Governor is responsible for the deaths of 10,000 plus and you blame Trump? You are not bright kid.

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2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Sure.  That's why you were so quick to jump on the disinformation campaign against HCQ. 

 

"It's dangerous!" No, not when it is used properly. 

 

"Trump owns stock in it!"  No, he doesn't anymore. 

 

"Look at the studies!"  That were poorly done and one which had to be retracted from being published in a once-respect journal.

 

"Remdesivir works!"  Yeah, that's why my Gilead stock is dropping.


I honestly don’t understand the argument against full scale trials of HCQ + Zinc. The immediate and vehement ridicule of it by the media and the left is bizarre to me. Just check it out, in a serious manner. It’s almost as if they are afraid of something, like it working well and the gravy train of control and future riches from a new drug/vaccine would go away. 

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20 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

I believe you live in the state-NY- where your Governor is responsible for the deaths of 10,000 plus and you blame Trump? You are not bright kid.

10,000 plus what?  Not people. 

6 minutes ago, dubs said:


I honestly don’t understand the argument against full scale trials of HCQ + Zinc. The immediate and vehement ridicule of it by the media and the left is bizarre to me. Just check it out, in a serious manner. It’s almost as if they are afraid of something, like it working well and the gravy train of control and future riches from a new drug/vaccine would go away. 

Hoax.  

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5 minutes ago, dubs said:


I honestly don’t understand the argument against full scale trials of HCQ + Zinc. The immediate and vehement ridicule of it by the media and the left is bizarre to me. Just check it out, in a serious manner. It’s almost as if they are afraid of something, like it working well and the gravy train of control and future riches from a new drug/vaccine would go away. 

 

 

Yep.  

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5 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:

 


It’s obviously a right wing facist clinical website.  

Absolutely. Only there do they design large studies with 40k participants in a randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial for a therapy that has already been studied and shown not to work.

 

Trump is already vindicated just by the fact that this trial is underway. 

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28 minutes ago, dubs said:

I honestly don’t understand the argument against full scale trials of HCQ + Zinc. The immediate and vehement ridicule of it by the media and the left is bizarre to me. Just check it out, in a serious manner. It’s almost as if they are afraid of something, like it working well and the gravy train of control and future riches from a new drug/vaccine would go away. 

 

Been saying this from the beginning.  A drug taken billions of times over 60+ years without a single question as to its safety...suddenly becomes the most dangerous drug ever and can't even be tried for COVID...just because Trump mentioned it.  When at the time, there wasn't a single treatment for COVID and the worst thing that could rarely happen with the drug was death, like COVID.  Then they went even dumber by saying that this generic drug was going to make Trump rich.  Goes to show you what their true motive was and still is.

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On 5/21/2020 at 11:14 AM, B-Man said:

THE NOT SO GREAT HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE DEBATE

So, President Trump says he’s taking hydroxychloroquine as a preventive measure against contracting the Wuhan coronavirus. You have to give him credit. He has the courage of his convictions.

 

Actually, it doesn’t require courage to take hydroxychloroquine as a preventative measure. The drug has been widely used to treat malaria and lupus for many decades. Like virtually every medication, it has side effects. However, it is not dangerous.

 

The FDA recently said there are elevated risks associated with COVID-19 patients taking hydroxychloroquine. This may (or may not) be true, but Trump is not a COVID-19 patient.

Does hydroxychloroquine help prevent becoming infected with the virus? I’m not aware of any evidence that it does.

 

To me, then, it seems that Trump is taking, essentially, a no-risk, no-reward measure. So, why the fuss?

 

We know why. Because anything the president says or does will create a fuss.

 

Even so, it surprises me a little that Democrats, the media, and the rest of the left have made hydroxychloroquine into such a battleground. My strong impression is that some Dems and media types would rather see people die than see Trump vindicated on even this one point. The glee oozes from mainstream reports claiming, prematurely, that the drug has been shown not to work.

 

The hydroxychloroquine debate has also provided the Speaker of the House with the opportunity to call the President of the United States “morbidly obese.” The President responded by calling the Speaker a “sick women” with “mental problems.”

 

Is this a great country, or what?

 

How did the hydroxychloroquine controversy begin? It began with Trump touting the drug. But what, exactly, did he say?

 

Most mainstream media reports say Trump called the drug a “game changer.” You have to search hard to find his actual quote. It was that hydroxychloroquine, taken along with the antibiotic azithromycin, has “a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.”

 

Trump never called hydroxychloroquine a “game changer.” He only said it had a real chance to be.

 

More at the link

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 8/1/2020 at 11:02 AM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....oh boy....Dr Ruth pontificates.....ANY OTHER President advocating hydro would get high marks......but Trump did so and it's an epic fail......SMH......another gem offering.....shades of BBMB........

 

Have you heard ???  

 

The Oklahoma Attorney General’s Office has been tasked with attempting to return a $2 million stockpile of a malaria drug once touted by former President Donald Trump as a way to treat the coronavirus.    https://www.readfrontier.org/stories/oklahoma-trying-to-return-its-2m-stockpile-of-hydroxychloroquine/

 

or just loot at the post above mine. 

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On 8/17/2020 at 9:52 PM, Doc said:

 

Been saying this from the beginning.  A drug taken billions of times over 60+ years without a single question as to its safety...suddenly becomes the most dangerous drug ever and can't even be tried for COVID...just because Trump mentioned it.  When at the time, there wasn't a single treatment for COVID and the worst thing that could rarely happen with the drug was death, like COVID.  Then they went even dumber by saying that this generic drug was going to make Trump rich.  Goes to show you what their true motive was and still is.

Nope.  It’s not the most dangerous drug ever.  It’s just not an effective treatment for COVID.  But some kool aid guzzling Qs still think otherwise. 

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Nope.  It’s not the most dangerous drug ever.  It’s just not an effective treatment for COVID.  But some kool aid guzzling Qs still think otherwise. 

 

Wrong (at least according to your puppet masters who wanted people to die to make Trump look bad) and wrong. 

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