There should be a national dialogue in getting back to work

[shoshin]

58 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

Photo 2 doesn't look like anyone is within 15 feet of another group of people. Perspective makes them look jammed together. 

Edited April 29, 2020 by shoshin

[B-Man]

8 minutes ago, shoshin said:

 

Photo 2 doesn't look like anyone is within 15 feet of another group of people. Perspective makes them look jammed together. 

 

 

As to your (good) point,

 

 

#JOURNALISM AND “PACKED CROWDS:”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Unforgiven]

24 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

From Encinitas, California.

It's all about the control, baby steps man, baby steps.

Also the part that goes unnoticed...5 thugs per perp.

[Gary M]

8 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

...5 thugs per perp.

 

Slow day?

[Warren Zevon]

10 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

It's all about the control, baby steps man, baby steps.

Also the part that goes unnoticed...5 thugs per perp.

 

Good thing you are here to notice things that go unnoticed. Funny how those baby steps have lead to California having a legit plan to open.

Edited April 29, 2020 by Warren Zevon

[B-Man]

 

Mom fined $880 for standing on park pathway 'too long' with dog, baby

 

An Aurora woman ticketed $880 for “standing too long in a park” with her baby and dog plans to fight the fine tooth-and-nail.

 

Roxana (who didn’t wish to use her last name), a new mom to a six-month-old and owner to an Australian Shepherd, took her babies for a walk on April 18 around 4:30 p.m. to Edward Coltham Park near Leslie St. and St. John’s Sdrd.

 

She walked down one of the narrow paths in the park and pulled over her stroller and dog into a nearby gazebo to let three seniors pass. She responded to a text while her dog was at her side and baby asleep.

 

Once the group has passed, Roxana said she continued on the pathway, but was abruptly met by Town of Aurora bylaw officer Mario Munguia in a vehicle marked animal services. He asked her why she was in the park and if she knew the park was closed and she responded that she was walking her dog. She said he then asked for her identification, which she didn’t have on her, but cooperated with giving him other personal information.

 

He then wrote her a ticket for $880 for being in the closed park and that she was standing around too long – despite the town allowing the public to access trails and pathways. Officially, the ticket says the offence is “failure to comply with orders during public emergency.”

 

“His line of questioning was very much as if a police officer was questioning me,” Roxana, 29, told the Toronto Sun on Tuesday.

 

“He told me it was a zero-tolerance policy and his words verbatim was that I was standing for over two minutes. My head exploded at that point. It made me feel like I had killed someone or sold drugs or did something ridiculous.”

 

“He also mentioned that he was watching me from afar. I was also absolutely alone. 

 

https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/made-me-feel-like-i-had-killed-someone-mom-fined-880-for-standing-on-park-pathway-too-long-with-dog-baby

 

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[B-Man]

 

 

[B-Man]

U.S. Healthcare System Devastated By Canceled “Elective” Surgeries, Stay at Home Orders

 

 

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[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

Wow, people seem terrified to go out and about. The economy isn’t going to rebound when we open anyway ,so we may as well stay locked down for a few years. 

[B-Man]

 

[Boatdrinks]

3 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Dangerous “ misinformation “ to the lefties. Lol 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 hours ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Actually, one of the reasons we chose Northern Idaho over Wyoming is it's protected by a continental divide that mostly shields it from the blistering cold and winds you see in Montana and Wyoming. So we get down in the 20s for a bit, and even into teens, but not for long, and that's it, on average. We were skiing in long-sleeved shirts near winter's end.

 

To give a better idea of proximity, I'm a 20-minute drive to Spokane, WA, the other reason we chose this area, because we have a nice, small international airport for when, y'know, I have to actually work for a living.

 

My concern is that a lot of people are going to look at this area and realize this is where they need to be when the next pandemic hits. 

If you see an average looking guy wandering around, looking harmless enough with a slightly lazy eye, don't shoot. We mostly keep to ourselves, the missus and I, but we'd like a little land to, uh, till (?) and a couple dogs running about. 

 

Congrats on finding your spot Id, that's great.  Long term we're looking for warm in the winter and have that buttoned up with S Fla, trying to figure out where to live the rest of the year. We have 3 adult children (20-25), want to be near them as time goes on, and as of right now that's Upstate NY.  We'll see how it goes...we're late 50s so the next 5-6 years tells the tale. 

 

Thanks for the scoop on Idaho, always cool to hear about another part of this vast and beautiful country! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

3 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:

Wow, people seem terrified to go out and about. The economy isn’t going to rebound when we open anyway ,so we may as well stay locked down for a few years. 

We did errands today. The driving traffic difference between this week and last week was enormous (much, much more traffic this week). The stores were packed.  I am sure it being over 65° outside helped, but I am not certain how much longer people will be down with masks+ social distancing + lock down.



 

Edited April 29, 2020 by Buffalo_Gal

[IDBillzFan]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We did errands today. The driving traffic difference between this week and last week was enormous (much, much more traffic this week). The stores were packed.  I am sure it being over 65° outside helped, but I am not cerrain how much longer people will be down with masks+ social distancing + lock down.

 

Maybe I'm just old, but the mask thing is kind of a no-brainer to me. I get they're a bit annoying, especially if you wear glasses, but all you're essentially doing is protecting other people from you. We have no idea what is wrong with the person in front of us in line, or passing us on the street. They could have a compromised immune system, but THEIR mask doesn't help them. So assuming masks really do protect others from us, it seems we should naturally want to do this.

 

Of course, then there will be masks everywhere and CA an NY will ban plastic masks and make us use recyclable masks so we don't infect the delta smelt, but one problem at a time.

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

We did errands today. The driving traffic difference between this week and last week was enormous (much, much more traffic this week). The stores were packed.  I am sure it being over 65° outside helped, but I am not cerrain how much longer people will be down with masks+ social distancing + lock down.



 

Interesting . And I agree on your outlook. Imo  some distancing will be fine for awhile , but masks should go away. I’m surprised there hasn’t been more outcry about this, but maybe NYers are okay with being controlled by a tyrannical Governor ? Ohio and DeWine had a sensible approach and didn’t mandate masks , left it up to retailers etc and noted that some found mandating a mask offensive. De wine said requiring it would be an overreach and I agree with him. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Maybe I'm just old, but the mask thing is kind of a no-brainer to me. I get they're a bit annoying, especially if you wear glasses, but all you're essentially doing is protecting other people from you. We have no idea what is wrong with the person in front of us in line, or passing us on the street. They could have a compromised immune system, but THEIR mask doesn't help them. So assuming masks really do protect others from us, it seems we should naturally want to do this.

 

Of course, then there will be masks everywhere and CA an NY will ban plastic masks and make us use recyclable masks so we don't infect the delta smelt, but one problem at a time.

I worn an N-95 one last week and could not breathe. I touched my face constantly to try and move it around and get some air.

This week, about 50% of the people in the stores had hospital/construction masks, 50% looked like some version of the Frito Bandito. My "mask" was a decorative summer scarf - probably useless in blocking my expelled air, but compliant (Heil!), and I could breath because it was so thin.


 

[Boatdrinks]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

I worn an N-95 one last week and could not breathe. I touched my face constantly to try and move it around and get some air.

This week, about 50% of the people in the stores had hospital/construction masks, 50% looked like some version of the Frito Bandito. My "mask" was a decorative summer scarf - probably useless in blocking my expelled air, but compliant (Heil!), and I could breath because it was so thin.


 

A friend of mine has recently recovered from cancer, and her doctors instructed her to wear an N 95 mask, fwiw. I believe it is to help her, not to protect others from her fwiw. An 95 will give a person some measure of protection from those around them. 

[IDBillzFan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

My "mask" was a decorative summer scarf -

 

The Blix look. Very nice. 

 

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

A friend of mine has recently recovered from cancer, and her doctors instructed her to wear an N 95 mask, fwiw. I believe it is to help her, not to protect others from her fwiw. An 95 will give a person some measure of protection from those around them. 

 

This is kind of my point about being courteous. Anyone on this board at this moment can throw a rock and hit someone going through or recovering from cancer. We don't know who these people are, so a bit of courtesy would be terrific.

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Boatdrinks said:

A friend of mine has recently recovered from cancer, and her doctors instructed her to wear an N 95 mask, fwiw. I believe it is to help her, not to protect others from her fwiw. An 95 will give a person some measure of protection from those around them. 

As I understand it, a mask protects others from you.  Your sneeze particles get caught in the mask instead of becoming airborne, and your cough whatevers same (caught up in the mask).  I suppose if someone were to sneeze in your face, you (generic you) would be protected at nose and mouth, but not at your eyes. I wonder if it helps her not breathe in other people's sneezes and coughs expectorants, assuming they are not wearing masks to catch them?

 

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

As I understand it, a mask protects others from you.  Your sneeze particles get caught in the mask instead of becoming airborne, and your cough whatevers same (caught up in the mask).  I suppose if someone were to sneeze in your face, you (generic you) would be protected at nose and mouth, but not at your eyes. I wonder if it helps her not breathe in other people's sneezes and coughs expectorants, assuming they are not wearing masks to catch them?

 

 

That's my understanding of the N95. My wearing a regular mask is me protecting you. My wearing an N95 mask is me protecting both of us. If you hit me with your expectorants from 6 feet, you need to see a doctor.