Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I have to go there to do meals on wheels (voluntarily) for guys like you. Ahh, good for you! That really is a great thing to do. ✌️
GG Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: There is no pandemic. You wear whatever you like, and I will do the same. Of course not. The last two months are totally normal seasonality for the flu and deaths.
Chef Jim Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reality Check said: There is no pandemic. What???
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, GG said: Of course not. The last two months are totally normal seasonality for the flu and deaths. ...hindsight is a beautiful thing especially when evaluating something like never before except for perhaps 1917......hopefully (yet doubtful) we can get to a reliable database that allows accurate assessment of the Covid-19 occurrence......with its obvious unknown status, measures were taken whether right, wrong, indifferent, woefully inept or over the top.....NOT much choice when sprung into "Crisis Management Mode" IMO.....FWIW, biggest problem I see is if we initially overreacted only to find out that Covid-19 is an annual occurrence......leaves us WIDE open to the "cry wolf syndrome".....stay tuned............
GG Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...hindsight is a beautiful thing especially when evaluating something like never before except for perhaps 1917......hopefully (yet doubtful) we can get to a reliable database that allows accurate assessment of the Covid-19 occurrence......with its obvious unknown status, measures were taken whether right, wrong, indifferent, woefully inept or over the top.....NOT much choice when sprung into "Crisis Management Mode" IMO.....FWIW, biggest problem I see is if we initially overreacted only to find out that Covid-19 is an annual occurrence......leaves us WIDE open to the "cry wolf syndrome".....stay tuned............ No arguments there. Always easier to pontificate from hindsight. But that’s beside the point of whether masks are effective in slowing the spread, or not.
Reality Check Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 This virus was developed and studied in more than a few laboratories. This is not a "mystery" virus by any stretch of the imagination. Everyone has the right to believe what they want. This whole business is an absolute fraud to hold billions of people hostage. Trillions are being created as a result. If you think that is a coincidence, then you are naive. Just my opinion.
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...hindsight is a beautiful thing especially when evaluating something like never before except for perhaps 1917......hopefully (yet doubtful) we can get to a reliable database that allows accurate assessment of the Covid-19 occurrence......with its obvious unknown status, measures were taken whether right, wrong, indifferent, woefully inept or over the top.....NOT much choice when sprung into "Crisis Management Mode" IMO.....FWIW, biggest problem I see is if we initially overreacted only to find out that Covid-19 is an annual occurrence......leaves us WIDE open to the "cry wolf syndrome".....stay tuned............ Hey my fellow old man, hope all is well with you. To your point, when you have a new virus of apparent high infectivity and with no vaccine, you have to err on the side of caution.
GG Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Who exactly is making trillions? This is a classic lose lose scenario where there won't be any winners.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, GG said: No arguments there. Always easier to pontificate from hindsight. But that’s beside the point of whether masks are effective in slowing the spread, or not. ...but it is such an inconsequential request, so why not just go with the flow?.....see if or if NOT....no harm...no foul IMO...
GG Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but it is such an inconsequential request, so why not just go with the flow?.....see if or if NOT....no harm...no foul IMO... It's not inconsequential if it's one more thing to cross off the list to open up sooner. 1
shoshin Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: What??? He’s not taking the vaccine either. Reality has an interesting relationship to reality. I want to open up and stay open. If one of the ways we stay open is to wear masks inside and in groups of people, it’s a bummer but not a big deal compared to being shut down. No, I don’t think not wearing masks is a right the government gains anything by or looks to enforce long term. Edited May 17, 2020 by shoshin
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but it is such an inconsequential request, so why not just go with the flow?.....see if or if NOT....no harm...no foul IMO... We can both open up businesses AND wear masks, distance and such. No harm no foul either way. 1
Reality Check Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, shoshin said: He’s not taking the vaccine either. Reality has an interesting relationship to reality. True. I don't operate within your fantasy land. There is no vaccine. Your PR campaign is good now, but it won't last.
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....absolutely agree...FIRST, hope you and your family are doing well my good friend in these troubled times.....brings credence to "fear of the unknown"........we are in the phenomena of "Crisis Management", nothing we have seen since perhaps 1917....we're talking about developing an action plan overnight.....and I think that the Trump team has done an exemplary job (obvious and expected hiccups expected under this type of duress), despite all of the naysayers who have yet to offer up who would be "their guy in charge to navigate the country through the pandemic"....."strange", right?.....just attack with no alternative is the fraudulent way out as expected(NOBLE).... I would disagree some if your conclusions and would welcome discussing off line. Doing so here would invite hyperbolic responses instead of real dialog.
oldmanfan Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...agree.....how can you stop the re-opening because of the defiant segment?.....the governmental defiant segment has been in play LONG BEFORE Covid-19........... ...I think we are generally on the same page....differential nuances are expected....stay safe bud.... Same to you my friend. 1
BillStime Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, B-Man said: Yes, says the guy worth $65m. Can you find a Scott Baio quote too?
B-Man Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: Yes, says the guy worth $65m. Can you find a Scott Baio quote too? It seems that I can't post without hearing from my "shadow"............. 2
Nanker Posted May 17, 2020 Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) We’ve been through this before. Polio caused a similar panic early on in the last century. Edited May 17, 2020 by Nanker
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