YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's all well and good But if Mayfield is his job...his job sounds like QB coach, not OC, to me. They probably figure that Stefanski will handle a lot of the OC stuff and just gave AVP the title to get him to take the job since he was QB coach in Cincy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: They probably figure that Stefanski will handle a lot of the OC stuff and just gave AVP the title to get him to take the job since he was QB coach in Cincy Fair. Whether it's the best plan to have a relatively inexperienced rookie HC try to be effectively a HC/OC is another question then So if you and @BarleyNY have some Browns stuff, is the Cheesecake Factory kerfluffle a nothing-burger that will fade away quietly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair. Whether it's the best plan to have a relatively inexperienced rookie HC try to be effectively a HC/OC is another question then So if you and @BarleyNY have some Browns stuff, is the Cheesecake Factory kerfluffle a nothing-burger that will fade away quietly? I don’t know any real Browns info really, though i have many friends who are browns “die hards” and discuss them constantly. The Cheesecake Factory story didn’t gain traction on the local radio shows because the stations are in process of negotiating contracts with the team and don’t want to make them mad by being “negative” ... it’s entertaining to see them dance around it but he’s lucky it came out in February. Some podcasts have been very critical, but not the actual radio stations Edited February 22, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's all well and good But if Mayfield is his job...his job sounds like QB coach, not OC, to me. Stefanski was an OC. He’ll be heading up the offense and is expected to call plays this year. It’s not any different than many other teams where the HC is in charge of one side of the ball. McD called the defensive plays in 2018. Honestly I’m not sure if he called them last season or not, but it’s still his defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Fair. Whether it's the best plan to have a relatively inexperienced rookie HC try to be effectively a HC/OC is another question then So if you and @BarleyNY have some Browns stuff, is the Cheesecake Factory kerfluffle a nothing-burger that will fade away quietly? Rumors floating around is that it would be in line with typical Baker activity, but that it is not an issue with Emily. That is just rumor, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Rumors floating around is that it would be in line with typical Baker activity, but that it is not an issue with Emily. That is just rumor, however. “Not an issue with Emily” meaning she knows and she’s OK with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: “Not an issue with Emily” meaning she knows and she’s OK with it? Yes, but I don’t have any specifics on that (two way street, one way street, rules, whatever). And again, that’s all just unverified rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, BarleyNY said: Yes, but I don’t have any specifics on that (two way street, one way street, rules, whatever). And again, that’s all just unverified rumor. Unusual, but if true makes Baker less of a sleaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 13 hours ago, BarleyNY said: Stefanski was an OC. He’ll be heading up the offense and is expected to call plays this year. It’s not any different than many other teams where the HC is in charge of one side of the ball. McD called the defensive plays in 2018. Honestly I’m not sure if he called them last season or not, but it’s still his defense. He called SOME defensive plays in 2018. 15 hours ago, BarleyNY said: A couple media people I know who report on the Browns had this to say about Van Pelt: - Mayfield will be his job - he’s a teacher, not a buddy - he holds everyone accountable - he’s a quality QB coach - Aaron Rodgers loved him - he will coach hard if needed Aaron Rodgers was really mad at coaching staff for cutting Van Pelt. Van Pelt is supposedly very good at getting hard headed QBs to look at stuff analytically which makes him a good match for Mayfield and a loss for Bengals. 14 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's all well and good But if Mayfield is his job...his job sounds like QB coach, not OC, to me. 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: They probably figure that Stefanski will handle a lot of the OC stuff and just gave AVP the title to get him to take the job since he was QB coach in Cincy Whether they gave him title or not Bengals could have not allowed to move to a division rival but they have enough difficulty recruiting coaches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Limeaid said: He called SOME defensive plays in 2018. Aaron Rodgers was really mad at coaching staff for cutting Van Pelt. Van Pelt is supposedly very good at getting hard headed QBs to look at stuff analytically which makes him a good match for Mayfield and a loss for Bengals. Whether they gave him title or not Bengals could have not allowed to move to a division rival but they have enough difficulty recruiting coaches. Right, they could have - but most teams won’t block a promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, BarleyNY said: A couple media people I know who report on the Browns had this to say about Van Pelt: - Mayfield will be his job - he’s a teacher, not a buddy - he holds everyone accountable - he’s a quality QB coach - Aaron Rodgers loved him - he will coach hard if needed I believe he’s a good QB coach. His job is Baker because this is a make or break year for him and they need to know if they need to draft a QB in 2021. There isn’t anyone there who is tied to Baker anymore. So if he is bad, or immature, or doesn’t work hard in the offseason again, etc, they don’t really need to feel committed to him for that 4th year. They didn’t draft him. If he doesn’t improve - significantly - from last year, I think they won’t hesitate to trade him and move on. He has his work cut out for him too. 4th OC in 3 years, both top WRs had surgeries that will keep them out through most of the preseason if not all, learning a new offense, changing his footwork, and dealing with a lot of negativity around him in the media (which he’s accountable for btw). On the plus side, this offense is QB friendly and should put him in position to look good (a lot of play action, run heavy, with talent in that area). If they can improve the OL and get the defense back to form with Garrett back things could go well. But big question marks. I won’t be surprised if they take a WR in the first if say Jeudy is there at 10. especially if they can sign an OT in FA. Edited February 22, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 22 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: “Fudgie Footwork” you say? *Rex Ryan signs up to be at every Browns training camp* Wrecks for the footwork, Rob(bed) for the fudge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I believe he’s a good QB coach. His job is Baker because this is a make or break year for him and they need to know if they need to draft a QB in 2021. There isn’t anyone there who is tied to Baker anymore. So if he is bad, or immature, or doesn’t work hard in the offseason again, etc, they don’t really need to feel committed to him for that 4th year. They didn’t draft him. If he doesn’t improve - significantly - from last year, I think they won’t hesitate to trade him and move on. He has his work cut out for him too. 4th OC in 3 years, both top WRs had surgeries that will keep them out through most of the preseason if not all, learning a new offense, changing his footwork, and dealing with a lot of negativity around him in the media (which he’s accountable for btw). On the plus side, this offense is QB friendly and should put him in position to look good (a lot of play action, run heavy, with talent in that area). If they can improve the OL and get the defense back to form with Garrett back things could go well. But big question marks. I won’t be surprised if they take a WR in the first if say Jeudy is there at 10. especially if they can sign an OT in FA. I pretty well agree with all of that. The only exceptions are that: 1) I do not see the Browns moving on from Baker that quickly unless he is a disaster this season and 2) they need two starting OTs, not just one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Baker tired of being fat shamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 10:23 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Was it....softer than Peterman? Van Pelt did throw 10 INT in 6 games (3 starts) in 1997, but the max. per game was 3 I do think Mayfield is going to epitomize the joke about the "mule trained with loving kindness" to Van Pelt: "first, you gotta get his attention" no not as bad as peterman. and pills was a better qb as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 11:21 AM, H2o said: Baker tired of being fat shamed Has anyone seen Josh Allen with his shirt off? He seems to favor loose baggy styles, just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) Reminds me of Fudgie the Whale. Maybe Mayfield has had too many of these? Affects the feet? It's the same mold as the tie cake haha Edited March 5, 2020 by thunderingsquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Has anyone seen Josh Allen with his shirt off? He seems to favor loose baggy styles, just sayin' Not sure, but based on that pic, Baker's fitness plan is definitely not working thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Not sure, but based on that pic, Baker's fitness plan is definitely not working thus far. No Lie, but unclear when said photo was taken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: No Lie, but unclear when said photo was taken Yeah. Could be old. I'm not in the business of ridiculing a guy for a less than stellar physique; I'm sure plenty of QB's have excelled without six packs. Just sayin; he stuck out like a sore thumb in that pic and not because of the "other" factor. Also somewhat ironic given that his new OC is Pill; (loved seeing him get a shot at the end of his time here FWIW, but not exactly a role model for someone trying to slim down). I don't care for Mayfield and he's not on the Bills so I have no rooting interest, but I think there's still a "decent" shot he develops into a quality starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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