NoSaint Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, White Linen said: I've long thought the footwork cliche is so overrated. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, so please don't attack. I'm just saying when watching today's NFL and how offensive lines change yearly for every team - clean pockets where mechanics and footwork were paramount, hardly exist. These QB's throw off balanced and on the run, most of the time. Now if there's some way to improve footwork on that, fine. 5-7 step drops, hop hop and throw, happen more rarely. I’d imagine, best ways to move in the pocket as well as outside and then resetting would qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, White Linen said: I've long thought the footwork cliche is so overrated. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, so please don't attack. I'm just saying when watching today's NFL and how offensive lines change yearly for every team - clean pockets where mechanics and footwork were paramount, hardly exist. These QB's throw off balanced and on the run, most of the time. Now if there's some way to improve footwork on that, fine. 5-7 step drops, hop hop and throw, happen more rarely. You can still have good or bad mechanics while throwing on the run. Foot placement is actually key while throwing on the run and makes a big difference Edited February 20, 2020 by Buffalo716 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: You can still have good or bad mechanics while throwing on the run. Foot placement is actually key while throwing on the run and makes a big difference I suppose. I doubt that's what Vanpelt is speaking to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: I suppose. I doubt that's what Vanpelt is speaking to. Van pelt is clearly talking about his mechanics in his drop and set up which I also noticed was off But I think Baker has drop issues because he can't clearly see over the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I still laugh about Gil Brandt's comment on VP, "the bar tender playing QB in Buffalo." That pretty much nailed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Put the orange training cones behind a Cheesecake Factory. It's best to do it a place that he's familiar and comfortable with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Baker Mayfield to AVP: "I like my footwork the way it is. What did you do in your NFL career to give you any right to suggest your way is better?" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, White Linen said: I've long thought the footwork cliche is so overrated. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, so please don't attack. I'm just saying when watching today's NFL and how offensive lines change yearly for every team - clean pockets where mechanics and footwork were paramount, hardly exist. These QB's throw off balanced and on the run, most of the time. Now if there's some way to improve footwork on that, fine. 5-7 step drops, hop hop and throw, happen more rarely. Throwing off balance is precisely a footwork problem, in many cases. Not if you're knocked off-balance obviously, but a lot of times the reason you're off balance is that you didn't use your feet correctly. Footwork is important in crowded pockets, and there's a specific type of footwork that's best for throwing on the run. It's an issue. It doesn't solve everything by any means, but it helps. On the other hand, some guys can't change things, their bad or good habits are too deeply ingrained. It's worth looking at, though. For what it's worth, AVP is a smart cookie and if Mayfield will listen, he's likely to learn something. Sigh. Back to grading student papers. Shouldn't even have written this. Edited February 20, 2020 by Thurman#1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: Throwing off balance is precisely a footwork problem, in many cases. Not if you're knocked off-balance obviously, but a lot of times the reason you're off balance is that you didn't use your feet correctly. Footwork is important in crowded pockets, and there's a specific type of footwork that's best for throwing on the run. It's an issue. It doesn't solve everything by any means, but it helps. On the other hand, some guys can't change things, their bad or good habits are too deeply ingrained. It's worth looking at, though. For what it's worth, AVP is a smart cookie and if Mayfield will listen, he's likely to learn something. Sigh. Back to grading student papers. Shouldn't even have written this. I'm speaking of throwing off balance because defenses are forcing pocket passing out of the game and IMO, the reason for the emergence of QB's needing to throw outside the confines of traditional footwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 hours ago, teef said: more like pudgie footwork! right? right fellas!? Have you seen The Irishman yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Have you seen The Irishman yet? no. the pressure you and my father are putting on me to watch it is astonishing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 hour ago, teef said: no. the pressure you and my father are putting on me to watch it is astonishing. What's he up to this weekend? Maybe we'll grab a polish sausage and a Miller Lite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Put the orange training cones behind a Cheesecake Factory. It's best to do it a place that he's familiar and comfortable with. So has there been any more about this, or is it going away like Sexy Rexy's Foot Fetish Films, a "personal matter"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So has there been any more about this, or is it going away like Sexy Rexy's Foot Fetish Films, a "personal matter"? It'll never go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 The Baker's Fudgie Mayfield. Seems like a new dessert at the Cheesecake Factory. Sounds...well rather dangerous. I'll pass. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What's he up to this weekend? Maybe we'll grab a polish sausage and a Miller Lite. he's an accountant and it's tax season, so you may have to wait until after mid april. the dude is two months from being 80, and he's still cranking out work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What's he up to this weekend? Maybe we'll grab a polish sausage and a Miller Lite. Hang out at the Warsaw Tavern with Drew and the gang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, teef said: he's an accountant and it's tax season, so you may have to wait until after mid april. the dude is two months from being 80, and he's still cranking out work. Your dad had you old. 15 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Hang out at the Warsaw Tavern with Drew and the gang? I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: Your dad had you old. my parents were 37 when they had me. i had my kids at 37 and 40, but i look fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 hours ago, White Linen said: I've long thought the footwork cliche is so overrated. I'm not saying it doesn't matter, so please don't attack. I'm just saying when watching today's NFL and how offensive lines change yearly for every team - clean pockets where mechanics and footwork were paramount, hardly exist. These QB's throw off balanced and on the run, most of the time. Now if there's some way to improve footwork on that, fine. 5-7 step drops, hop hop and throw, happen more rarely. You can still have good form when moving. You see it all the time with Brady, he moves and sets. Even when he throws on the run, his arm is always at the same level. Its actually pretty incredible So it may not necessarily be "footwork" as just mechanics in general. When EJ was benched after the Texans game a few years ago, his footwork in the game was atrocious and IMO was why he was benched. He needed to get out of game reps and focused on fundamentals if he was going to have any shot 41 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: What's he up to this weekend? Maybe we'll grab a polish sausage and a Miller Lite. TMI bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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