Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump The Wall Street Journal always “forgets” to mention that the ratings for the White House Press Briefings are “through the roof” (Monday Night Football, Bachelor Finale, according to @nytimes) & is only way for me to escape the Fake News & get my views across. WSJ is Fake News! 120K 3:35 PM - Apr 9, 2020 Twitter Ads info and privacy 87.1K people are talking about this 23 hours ago, billsfan1959 said: People who continually want to complain, criticize, and engage in the blame game, during a crisis, are doing so out of purely selfish reasons. Agreed 1
SoCal Deek Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: Agreed The difference is that one of the two sides is the one putting in ALL of the hard work and the other side is doing NOTHING but standing on the sideline whining about how they would have run a different play. 3 3
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: The difference is that one of the two sides is the one putting in ALL of the hard work and the other side is doing NOTHING but standing on the sideline whining about how they would have run a different play. Trump? Hard work? He's yelling about "ratings" as if this is a reality tv show He is a joke. We have really learned how easily led our fellow citizens can be by a fraudster.
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, SoCal Deek said: The difference is that one of the two sides is the one putting in ALL of the hard work and the other side is doing NOTHING but standing on the sideline whining about how they would have run a different play. Who cares? The press's job has been the press's job since 1776. Trump should man up, deal with it, and lead the country. Instead he ***** about the WSJ while thousands are dying.
shoshin Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, John in Jax said: A LOT of Americans will NOT be down with being “tracked”, including me. I would like my right to assemble back. I'll trade some tracking for that. In KR, they use teams of people to contact trace. I'd be fine with that but we can't set up that kind of infrastructure in 3 weeks. The phones are already in most people's pockets. Edited April 10, 2020 by shoshin
SoCal Deek Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Who cares? The press's job has been the press's job since 1776. Trump should man up, deal with it, and lead the country. Instead he ***** about the WSJ while thousands are dying. Wrong Gary. It’s not the job of the press to be a whining bunch of losers while ‘thousands are dying’. Have you even watched a single one of the President’s briefings? He’s been patient and gracious every day, answering question after question. I seriously don’t know how he does it. He gets a snarky gotcha question from some millennial know nothing reporter from some ‘news’ outlet you’ve never heard of....he answers with a smile and a sense of humor, and moves on to the next question.....rinse and repeat....for over an hour each day. Amazingly patient! With that said, he’s allowed to express his own opinion. He didn’t abandon that right when he ran for office. 9 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trump? Hard work? He's yelling about "ratings" as if this is a reality tv show He is a joke. We have really learned how easily led our fellow citizens can be by a fraudster. So says another LOSER standing on the sideline. You really don’t see the irony, do you? 1 1 2
Doc Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 8 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: <br /> It came from the BSL4 lab there. It's a) too great of a coincidence otherwise, b) the reason why they issued safety guidelines for that lab immediately afterwards and c) why they're re-opening the wet markets. 5 hours ago, fansince88 said: Is that why he didnt bother rebuilding the stockpiles that the CDC needed? That's not his job/fault. Someone else didn't make that happen. 3
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc said: That's not his job/fault. Someone else didn't make that happen. Obama's fault!
Doc Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Gary Busey said: Obama's fault! No. Nothing ever is. 1 2
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Doc said: No. Nothing ever is. 100% Obama should have refilled the stockpile. Trump also should have his first couple years in office. They both ***** it up 1
billsfan1959 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: 100% Obama should have refilled the stockpile. Trump also should have his first couple years in office. They both ***** it up All of which helps the current situation in what way?
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: All of which helps the current situation in what way? Replying to the dude who said it was Obama's fault. Ask him.
outsidethebox Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: 100% Obama should have refilled the stockpile. Trump also should have his first couple years in office. They both ***** it up I blame the CCP, not democrats or republicans. The CCP wants us fighting. The CCP are not our friends. 3
SoCal Deek Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: 100% Obama should have refilled the stockpile. Trump also should have his first couple years in office. They both ***** it up Possibly. But let me ask you. If you go the cupboard to get some potato chips only to find an empty bag, is it your fault for not checking the bag every day? Or...would you ‘blame’ the one who put a crumb filled bag back in the cupboard and didn’t write anything on the shopping list? You know the answer. 2 1
billsfan1959 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: Replying to the dude who said it was Obama's fault. Ask him. You are being a little disingenuous, Gary, which is akin to saying Jeffrey Dahmer was slightly maladjusted.... Edited April 10, 2020 by billsfan1959
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: You are being a little disingenuous, Gary, which is akin to saying Jeffrey Dahmer was slightly maladjusted.... You twist facts almost as well as the Rhino
billsfan1959 Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: You twist facts almost as well as the Rhino Speaking of twisting facts, here is a sampling of your recent posts: 1
Doc Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: 100% Obama should have refilled the stockpile. Trump also should have his first couple years in office. They both ***** it up This is the correct answer. H1N1 happened under his watch and he had 7 years to do so. 1
Warren Zevon Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Doc said: This is the correct answer. H1N1 happened under his watch and he had 7 years to do so. 24 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: All of which helps the current situation in what way?
Foxx Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: I'm not ignoring your other post, but I will only minimally respond to it because frankly, despite what you seem to believe, I am generally using this time to step away from the Internet and TBD in general to do other more productive things. Your question to me is a trap based on a false premise... actually a fallacy commonly used here in PPP. That's why I won't engage you thoroughly. But I will respond so you at least understand why I often just don't respond to posters. Even if you still think I'm an idiot or a jerk, at least it might help you understand me a bit more. I trust journalists more than I trust random Twitter guy. I'm not saying they're never wrong, but knowing a couple journalists as you do, I view the safeguard of journalistic "sourcing" as more credible than random Twitter guy who says whatever he wants and has no guardrails. Inevitability someone here (I have a good idea on who those posters will be) will cherry pick certain stories by certified journalists from mainstream media as proof they're not to be trusted. Arguing with someone latching on to those cherry picked stories that end up being a very tiny percent of the slew of other true, well-sourced stories is pretty clearly a tried and true strategy on this forum, but in the end it really just becomes a straw man argument. The straw man fallacy actually seems to be the go-to over here. And it's the weasley way out of a discussion. And it's why I generally avoid prolonged discussion in this forum and why I am not directly answering your post, even though I just basically did, at least indirectly. here's the thing with the main stream media, trans. they no longer exist to report just the news in an unbiased way. they exist to steer public perceptions. you might say that that is paranoid conspiracy theory nonsense. consider that, all of the main stream propaganda is owned by just six companies. also consider that it is not too hard to see when you have the same daily talking point(s) being echoed across all of them. or is it merely coincidence that CNN, MSNBC, WaPo, NYT, The Atlantic, Daily Kos, etc, all use the same verbiage. another poster pointed out that local news is more unbiased in their reporting. i agree with that to an extent. that being that, yes when local stories are being reported on, they have a much better shot at being free from the desired national narrative. however, when local reporting on national news stories is done, they also contain desired narrative pushes because after all, these local stations are also owned under that 6 corporation umbrella. there are countless videos out there that point out the same daily keywords being used in the local markets or any particular day. the farther away you get from the establishment, the closer you are going to get to what journalism was originally intended to be. with that said, in this world where it seems our overlords are creaming their pants with delight over just how well their divide and conquer plans are working, finding news without a slant or hidden objective is just about downright impossible. because we cannot exist without news of some sort, we have to find it where we may and it is for that reason that we must hone our discernment skills and be able to sift the proverbial wheat from the chaff. what is important is that we have real discussions outside of the propagandists parapet. what you have engaged with @leh-nerd skin-erd in is how we get away from their plans. complaining about this persons source or that persons source while defending your own may have some merit, but it ultimately serves no real purpose. as it always has and always should, logic and reason are what is going to rule the day. learning to think for oneself can not be overstated. learning what an article really says and not taking the sound bite headline as it's substance can not be overstated. seeing the narratives within an article cannot be overstated. critical thinking skills help seeing through the propaganda. questioning just about everything in this world they have constructed is not a bad way to go. however the fine line is not questioning to the point that your brian falls out along the way. Edited April 10, 2020 by Foxx 1 6
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