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Just now, BullBuchanan said:

yup, extra zero. oops.

350M infected Americans - 0.5% dead.

 

Again, what data, anywhere in this world right now tells you every person in this country (and it is 330 million, not 350 million) is going to be infected.

 

Ridiculous.

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57 minutes ago, GG said:

 

That would only work in the early stages of the outbreak.  It certainly wouldn't work in NY now, nor would it have worked in NY, where as recently as early March officials were telling people to g on with their lives.

 

Exactly, and why people are criticizing that lack early testing.  As I stated in my post to 1959, while there are areas in the country where testing is important due to low outbreaks, for those in the midst of it, it will become relevant as we come out of it and transition to back to "normal" whatever that is...

Yes, I've been criticizing DeBlasio's lack of focus too.

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9 minutes ago, TPS said:

As stated in that video, the Koreans immediately worked with private labs to expand. 

The CDC eschewed the German test that WHO recommended to create their own, they controlled testing early, and also had the well-known F-up with the test kit that set things back a week or two.. 

 

The testing early only has to be focused on where the cases are and then doing the containment, so it didn't require hundreds of 1000s early on, but it does require 1000s.  Cuomo was calling for the CDC to let the state labs test by March 8.  The FDA was also slow at providing the ok for private labs.   You may not agree, but this is why it was so important to have a high-level pandemic coordinator (the position that was "streamlined" by Bolton and subsumed under a broader agency) to over-rule the bureaucratic delays.  The lack of quickly rolling out testing will be seen as the failure of our response.  

 

As for the death rate, you've already posted something about "don't tell me it's early," but it is.  The number of tests becomes irrelevant to the death rate when we've reached the point where hospitals are overrun, because the only thing that matters is the ability to care for the numbers that are coming into the hospitals.  The measure to compare is the one used on the worldometer site, deaths per million of population. Right now, italy is at 206 and the US is at 12 (4100 deaths so far).  Italy's will surely go up some, but it is slowing. For the US, if we are able to limit the number of deaths to 100,000, then that number will be close to 300, and of course if deaths are closer to 200,000, then we're at 600 per 1 mil.So, yes, where we are in the process matters....

 

As for testing now, it becomes very important once we get past the pandemic phase and phasing back to normal--you do the same thing that should've been done at the start--test, isolate, contain.

 

 

 

The measure of the death rate can be done by confirmed cases, total cases, per 100,000, etc. Measure it however you want. The data I provided showed that the increase in the death rate, in any way you want to measure it, is more on par with South Korea and Germany than it is with other countries. There is every reason to believe we will be able to provide the ICU beds, ventilators, etc. to not have our hospitals overwhelmed as they have been elsewhere.

 

It remains to be seen.

 

I appreciate the civil conversation.

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9 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Believe me, I understand that the media doesn't give a ***** about right vs left. They sell controversy and hype, but certain outlets pander to one side over the other while their sister stations owned by the same parent company feed the other side. I do take issue however, that the less factual among right wing outlets have a strong reputation for being extremely venomous at a personal level. Less factual left wing articles may play identity politics just as strongly, but they don't make actual enemies of fellow Americans and sow cultural divides the same way.


Here’s a test to see if you’re as aware as you like to claim. Its a simple either or choice: 

 

In your opinion, who interfered more in the 2016 election: the Russians (and their proxies) or the US Intelligence community and prior administration? 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:


Here’s a test to see if you’re as aware as you like to claim. Its a simple either or choice: 

 

In your opinion, who interfered more in the 2016 election: the Russians (and their proxies) or the US Intelligence community and prior administration? 
 

 

You're a "Deep State" guy? jesus christ.
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5 hours ago, 3rdnlng said:

Maybe instead of just casting wild dispersions with empty statements you could actually do the work to prove those statements? 

I don't know about my "wild dispersions"... ?

And, I'm not sure what there is to prove by suggesting people could go back and read posts from a month ago to see who was taking it seriously and who wasn't?  All that says is people can read and figure out on their own.  I wonder why you are taking that personally....?

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4 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

You're a "Deep State" guy? jesus christ.
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That’s not an answer. It’s an either or choice. Go. 

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15 minutes ago, TPS said:

 

 

See how they extremists ignore things they can't handle. Any other post gets a response immediately in PPP... Except when they can't say ***** about it 

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:


That’s not an answer. It’s an either or choice. Go. 

 

Russia, clearly. The deep state doesn't exist.

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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

 

Russia, clearly. The deep state doesn't exist.


Thank you. 
 

Go back to sleep. Someone will wake you when it’s over. 
 

(talk about falling for gaslighting — goodness what a hilarious and ironic turn :lol: )

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6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

You're a "Deep State" guy? jesus christ.
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The Rhino is so far off his rocker he's created alternative personalities of himself on social networks to spread propaganda. Don't engage with it

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17 minutes ago, TPS said:

 

 

That CDC warning was literally just to practice "usual travel precautions" when travelling to the area of the virus outbreak. Lol.

"

Reports indicate that some of the patients were vendors at the Wuhan South China Seafood City (South China Seafood Wholesale Market) where, in addition to seafood, chickens, bats, marmots, and other wild animals are sold, suggesting a possible zoonotic origin to the outbreak. The market has been closed for cleaning and disinfection. Local authorities have reported negative laboratory test results for seasonal influenza, avian influenza, adenovirus, severe acute respiratory syndrome-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV) among patients associated with this cluster. Additional laboratory testing is ongoing to determine the source of the outbreak. Health authorities are monitoring more than 150 contacts of patients for illness.

CDC has issued a level 1 travel notice (“practice usual precautions”) for this destination."

 

Talk about a misleading tweet.

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Just now, Deranged Rhino said:


Thank you. 
 

Go back to sleep. Someone will wake you when it’s over. 

Do you mean the "Democratic Hoax"?

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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:

Do you mean the "Democratic Hoax"?


Nope. 
 

I can and prove with evidence that you’re all the way wrong. Have already. 
 

Go back to sleep, pumpkin. You’re way lost. 

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